[RobInKuwait]

I liked it. The change part was refreshing. Anyone else?

[Kruger]

Long. Still tough watching him give a speech. Its just not his thing but I thought it had substance, was more positive than any candidates speech in this election and I thought he ended well.


The parts about character were moving and he did better than I expected but one thing is for sure...he won't win based off his speech giving ability.


I've also never heard a candidate criticize his own party in an acceptance speech which I thought was refreshing.

[atjnutrition2]

For McCain I thought it was a good speech. Everyone knows that he is not great at scripted speeches. He ended it very strong. Regardless of your politics I think anyone would have to admit that he is sincere in his beliefs and not afraid to stand up for them.

[yeahright]

Mediocre.

[Reaper329]

for him it was good. I was surprised to see him criticize his own party as well, which I personally liked seeing, but I am curious if it will have an impact on the base. Also, not a lot of specifics given about the economy, which is still issue #1 for most people.

[CryingEmo]

I think it's great how they exploited the troops for political gain as if the the republicans have a monopoly on being patriotic

Let's wrap ourselves in the flag and do whatever we want. Question our motives? You must be unpatritriotic! God bless this and that, and the troops are great, so vote for us = 90% of the RNC content so far.

Yes, we have a many great freedoms, however it's frowned upon if you try to exersize any of them, like freedom of assembly or freedom of speech.

[Saurabh]

As a non-American who by definition is neutral I found McCain and Palin's speech completely out of whack with reality.

Take McCain for instance. The man kept yapping - Fight, fight, fight. Fight for what?? Did he take a step back and wonder that of the last 28 years(since 1980) Republicans have been in power for 20 of these(2 times for Reagan, Bush Jr, once for Bush Sr). And the other 8 years that Democrats were in power, United States was actually rolling in budget surplus and goodwill around the world??

What I would have loved would have been to see McCain come out and say - Look we have done a few mistakes in past, including Iraq. Our economy is tanking. India/China are coming up excellently. Our stature in the world is diminishing. Gas prices and real estate is making life miserable for everyone. But the buck stops now. I shall learn from the mistakes of my party and make sure we turn things around.

Instead what he, and his mate Palin, did was to come out swinging as if it was the Democrats who has brought USA down to its knees.

What makes me greatly apprehensive is the sheer divisiveness in USA plitics. It appears Republicans will support their party(same for Democrats) no matter how wrong they are! It is almost as if the ability to differentiate between right and wrong doesnt matter anymore. Most of Americans are biased, and quite aware of it. And most Americans are playing their part in destroying their great country..only they arent aware of that.

xxx

[DaTruthMMA]

Originally Posted by Saurabh

What I would have loved would have been to see McCain come out and say - Look we have done a few mistakes in past, including Iraq. Our economy is tanking. India/China are coming up excellently. Our stature in the world is diminishing. Gas prices and real estate is making life miserable for everyone. But the buck stops now. I shall learn from the mistakes of my party and make sure we turn things around.

Instead what he, and his mate Palin, did was to come out swinging as if it was the Democrats who has brought USA down to its knees.

What makes me greatly apprehensive is the sheer divisiveness in USA plitics. It appears Republicans will support their party(same for Democrats) no matter how wrong they are! It is almost as if the ability to differentiate between right and wrong doesnt matter anymore. Most of Americans are biased, and quite aware of it. And most Americans are playing their part in destroying their great country..only they arent aware of that.

xxx

yes that would be the ideal thing wouldn't it? i've found that over the years people in politics are less likely to accept or admit their mistakes and serve a public apology. i think mccain did a great job in his speech considering the fact that he sucks at it. i had a problem with palin though, she came off as a *b*tch* for lack of a better word.
i would want obama to win to see if things do change. i want to see whether democrats can really change things now and bring prosperity to our economy. if so, i would switch parties.

[Kruger]

Originally Posted by Saurabh

As a non-American who by definition is neutral I found McCain and Palin's speech completely out of whack with reality.[/quote[ Boy does that take the cake.


Take McCain for instance. The man kept yapping - Fight, fight, fight. Fight for what?? Did he take a step back and wonder that of the last 28 years(since 1980) Republicans have been in power for 20 of these(2 times for Reagan, Bush Jr, once for Bush Sr). And the other 8 years that Democrats were in power, United States was actually rolling in budget surplus and goodwill around the world??

Good will? We we're bombed 8 times.

A budget surplus means absolutely nothing to the American people. This notion that the national debt or surplus actually effects you is a myth. Clinton got a surplus by cutting defense spending by 60%. THATS IT!

There was no broad economic plan that he enacted and most of the increase revenue that he received was the result of the Bush tax increases. "Read my lips, no new taxes". Wrong, he taxed..pissed off his base and created more revenue for the federal government. Clinton benefits the first 4 years of that increase.

This notion that Clinton actually did something with the economy is a complete myth. Economic ebbs and flows have almost nothing to do with any President unless he either raises taxes or lowers them. Other than that, he has almost zero control.

What I would have loved would have been to see McCain come out and say - [i]Look we have done a few mistakes in past, including Iraq.

He doesn't believe that.

Our economy is tanking.

Right, we have positive GDP and its tanking? Its called an election year. Now do you think you will hear how that economy is tanking from Democrats if Obama is elected? Think again.

Look at the actual numbers instead of talking points.

India/China are coming up excellently. Our stature in the world is diminishing.

Its called globalization. The notion that you are going to keep Asia in the 5th century is not only ignorant, but borders on the isolationist train of thought that got us into trouble so many other times throughout history.

Gas prices and real estate is making life miserable for everyone.

Did you not listen to him talk about drilling?

Last time I checked, Pelosi refused to even have a vote about drilling. She wouldn't even let people debate the issue.

I shall learn from the mistakes of my party and make sure we turn things around.

As many commmentators reported, its the first time they've ever heard someone criticize their own party.

Instead what he, and his mate Palin, did was to come out swinging as if it was the Democrats who has brought USA down to its knees.

It IS the RNC...its not a State of the Union speech.

What makes me greatly apprehensive is the sheer divisiveness in USA plitics. It appears Republicans will support their party(same for Democrats) no matter how wrong they are! It is almost as if the ability to differentiate between right and wrong doesnt matter anymore. Most of Americans are biased, and quite aware of it. And most Americans are playing their part in destroying their great country..only they arent aware of that.

xxx

Agree foir the most part.

[Saurabh]

Originally Posted by J. Peterman

Good will? We we're bombed 8 times.

Bombed 8 times? Like how.

And while you are at it, can you care to elaborate how many times USA supported militias have bombed around the world. Afganistan is a great example. CIA supported Afganistanis jehadis when it suited their interest. Even today CIA considers it a great success and completely fail to realize that its (mis)adventure helped 911 to happen.

A budget surplus means absolutely nothing to
the American people. This notion that the national debt or surplus actually effects you is a myth. Clinton got a surplus by cutting defense spending by 60%. THATS IT!

That probably sums up your knowledge, or lack thereof. I find it hard to beleive that a sane educated person thinks Budget surplus means nothing. You may be happy being in debt, I sure am not.

This notion that Clinton actually did something with the economy is a complete myth. Economic ebbs and flows have almost nothing to do with any President unless he either raises taxes or lowers them. Other than that, he has almost zero control.

Lets keep it simple.

In the end Clinton has surplus on his side while Bush has sank the country into debt(that too from China and Saudi Arabia). Enough said.

Its called globalization. The notion that you are going to keep Asia in the 5th century is not only ignorant, but borders on the isolationist train of thought that got us into trouble so many other times throughout history.

Wow! Thats the lamest excuse ever.

This is NOT the first time Asia is developing. Japan grew, South Korea grew. Did that coincide with USA's demise? Errr no. But this time it is. Make no mistakes that USA has a tough fight at hand. Why? BEcause the trillion that it spent in Iraq could have been spent at home.

That all said if you dont care for your country fair enough man. It will only benefit other countries and not USA.

[Rugger]

Originally Posted by Saurabh

Bombed 8 times? Like how.

And while you are at it, can you care to elaborate how many times USA supported militias have bombed around the world. Afganistan is a great example. CIA supported Afganistanis jehadis when it suited their interest. Even today CIA considers it a great success and completely fail to realize that its (mis)adventure helped 911 to happen.

Yeah, we helped stop communism and those damned russians by giving weapons and stinger missiles to Afghanis who were being massacred. Man what a terrible decision! If only we have a genie that could predict 17 years the future.


That probably sums up your knowledge, or lack thereof. I find it hard to beleive that a sane educated person thinks Budget surplus means nothing. You may be happy being in debt, I sure am not.

LOL. You need to do some learning, cheif. You've got a lot to learn about the supposed 'surplus' we had under clinton.



In the end Clinton has surplus on his side while Bush has sank the country into debt(that too from China and Saudi Arabia). Enough said.

See, the thing is, when you give away money for 8 years and expand every ENTITLEMENT program, once you stop doing that, the money has to come from somewhere.

Wow! Thats the lamest excuse ever.

This is NOT the first time Asia is developing. Japan grew, South Korea grew. Did that coincide with USA's demise? Errr no. But this time it is. Make no mistakes that USA has a tough fight at hand. Why? BEcause the trillion that it spent in Iraq could have been spent at home.

Do you have any idea how much money and influence the US had in the expanding and growth of SK and Japan? Any idea on how many trillions of dollars we gave each of them? My favorite part is how people actually try and tell eachother that the war in Iraq was unnecessary Saddam had and has used weapons of mass destruction, massacred hundreds of thousands of people because of their religion. Oh yeah, **** them right? Then they turn around and cry about Darfur because we don't do as much as they'd like. Give me a break

[Jayhawkk]

What I would have loved would have been to see McCain come out and say - Look we have done a few mistakes in past, including Iraq. Our economy is tanking. India/China are coming up excellently. Our stature in the world is diminishing. Gas prices and real estate is making life miserable for everyone. But the buck stops now. I shall learn from the mistakes of my party and make sure we turn things around.

Yeah, sounds unbiased... by definition.

[Kruger]

Originally Posted by Saurabh

Bombed 8 times? Like how.

You do understand the first WTC bombing was in 1993? USS Cole, US bombing embassies in Kenya/Tanzania, Movenpick Hotel and Goldmour HOtel to eliminate US soldiers coming back fomr Somalia, Communications center for Saudi National Guard to kill Amefrican miltary officers, etc...

Want anymore?

And while you are at it, can you care to elaborate how many times USA supported militias have bombed around the world. Afganistan is a great example. CIA supported Afganistanis jehadis when it suited their interest. Even today CIA considers it a great success and completely fail to realize that its (mis)adventure helped 911 to happen.

And this is a result of what administration?

That probably sums up your knowledge, or lack thereof. I find it hard to beleive that a sane educated person thinks Budget surplus means nothing. You may be happy being in debt, I sure am not.

You show how completely ignorant you are in terms of running anything in terms of business. You blindly follow talking points form political leaders who have zero clue about running a business while you fail to recognize that no matter if you have a budget or surplus the American people don't see one red cent of it. The same argument was used in the 1990's and what effect did it have on the American public? None.

And I'm not in debt. I run a profitable business. Do you?

In the end Clinton has surplus on his side while Bush has sank the country into debt(that too from China and Saudi Arabia). Enough said.

And please tell me what he did to create this surplus or are you going to keep it simple?

You do understand that for 6 out of they 8 years during the Clinton years Congress was controlled by the Republicans. Did they do it? And if so what did they do?

Keep it simple? That's all you do.

Wow! Thats the lamest excuse ever.

I'm sorry if you think reality is lame. You show just how completely clueless you are when it comes to economic changes that globalization have caused.

This is NOT the first time Asia is developing. Japan grew, South Korea grew. Did that coincide with USA's demise?

Actually in the 80's, it did hinder the auto industry by a large margin and was the reason for the large increase in Japanese industrial expansion in the southeast US and the Delcine in jobs from the midwest. Care to try again?

Plus, comparing Japan to the China and India which have the largest populations in the world just shows have completely ignorant you are.

You have the biggest increase and shift form an agrarian society to an industrial one in China that its ever seen. I'd like to know how the US president is going to stop that.

Errr no. But this time it is. Make no mistakes that USA has a tough fight at hand. Why? BEcause the trillion that it spent in Iraq could have been spent at home.

Could have but never would have. Did Clinton spend that money? Yep..what happened? Rampant fraud in government run programs to which he then decreased the amount substationally and put it back into defense spending in his second term. Read history much?