McCain's VP Pick - a GILF?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Its funny listening to Dems on TV scrambling trying to come up with some sort of criticism. Oh, she's not experience in foreign policy.

    Why don't you highlight even more what your Presidential candidate lacks?
    I know, this is wildly entertaining. McCain's VP pick is more qualified than the democratic presidential candidate.

    She completely shores the conservative base... the conservative base that feels ABANDONED by the idea of McCain as 'their' candidate. Not to mention McCain has turned against his party numerous times during his campaign, remember what he did to north carolina republican party? My god that pissed me off.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Its funny listening to Dems on TV scrambling trying to come up with some sort of criticism. Oh, she's not experience in foreign policy.

    Why don't you highlight even more what your Presidential candidate lacks?
    "Its a political hail mary, and shows what a strong position Obama/Biden is in this election."

    cnn.com
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    "Its a political hail mary, and shows what a strong position Obama/Biden is in this election."

    cnn.com
    CNN... i'm not familiar with that one.

    Is it the communist news network?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    lol..yeah the details on that one would really offend feminists...lol.
    not really sure why you are relating this to feminists, however hse has been in office for 18 months and is already under investigation, not a good sign and it will be exploited for certain

    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Sure she does. She shores up the base because of her conservative record and appeals to the demographic that elected Bush in 2004...soccer moms.


    Slam dunk.
    only conservative soccer moms. dem soccer moms will realize the stark differences between her and Hillary and will not make the vote. Again, she is a STRONG conservative, she is a creationist, and wants it taught in schools, she is against Roe v. Wade. If certain soccer moms agree then of course they will vote, but her selection really did not do much for the McCain weaknesses, expecially the economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    What can you criticize about her? She's not experienced? She has more experience than Obama.
    I think the critiscm is not necessarily her as it will be McCain, as he has been harping on the Obama lack of experience and rightfully so, then chooses Palin who 19 months ago was a mayor of a small town.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    CNN... i'm not familiar with that one.

    Is it the communist news network?
    That's the one! McCain may just run away with this one.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    "Its a political hail mary, and shows what a strong position Obama/Biden is in this election."

    cnn.com

    I know..its just so wrong on so many levels its laughable.

    Who is talking about that big speech Obama gave last night?

    Nobody.


    Owned.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    "Its a political hail mary, and shows what a strong position Obama/Biden is in this election."

    cnn.com
    actually cnn is reporting the quote from the Obama camp, it is not their own

    I do have to say that CNN is at least more neutraol (if that is possible) in comparison to Fox and MSNBC. Those two are nauseating

  8. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    I know..its just so wrong on so many levels its laughable.

    Who is talking about that big speech Obama gave last night?

    Nobody.


    Owned.
    Their campaign managers must be pulling their hair out after they timed the speech 45 years after King's and having to rewrite all that communist propaganda again and somehow recycle it to make it sound shiny and new.


  9. Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    I know..its just so wrong on so many levels its laughable.

    Who is talking about that big speech Obama gave last night?

    Nobody.


    Owned.
    Obama's speech wasn't bad... but it was a campaign rally. It SHOULD have been an acceptance speech. He did piss off a lot of his base though, especially his own minority base.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Their campaign managers must be pulling their hair out after they timed the speech 45 years after King's and having to rewrite all that communist propaganda again and somehow recycle it to make it sound shiny and new.

    thank you for the best laugh of the day. by the same token, should we assume that McCain's speech will be fascist propaganda?

  11. Don't get me started on MLK.. lol I don't want to piss anyone off but if you spend some time researching his past its incredible what he was about.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    thank you for the best laugh of the day. by the same token, should we assume that McCain's speech will be fascist propaganda?
    Let me quote him:

    "we are all our brother's and sister's keeper." Aside from the personal irony in his life, brother's keeper has a long history as a communist buzzword.

    His entire speech centered around giving the "working class" benefits paid for by the rich. Maybe Socialism is a friendlier word to describe it, but the bottom line its the same Robin Hood economics.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Let me quote him:

    "we are all our brother's and sister's keeper." Aside from the personal irony in his life, brother's keeper has a long history as a communist buzzword.

    His entire speech centered around giving the "working class" benefits paid for by the rich. Maybe Socialism is a friendlier word to describe it, but the bottom line its the same Robin Hood economics.
    I know repubs love to throw around communism and socialism, but I think you might be overstating it a tad.

    Last night, Obama was trying to add the finishing touches on the party and on his base, as wlel as pin point the flaws in the republicans, which from most pundits he did and did well.

    Now, Mccain will have his chance, and his has alot of artillery to shoot with come next week. I am eager to see how he does

  14. Proletariat struggle aside.......McCain pulled a rabbit out of his ass with this one, its been polled that 30% of democrat women are voting for McCain already, i think this will tip the scales.

    Even some male Hillary supporters might jump ship.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Let me quote him:

    "we are all our brother's and sister's keeper." Aside from the personal irony in his life, brother's keeper has a long history as a communist buzzword.

    His entire speech centered around giving the "working class" benefits paid for by the rich. Maybe Socialism is a friendlier word to describe it, but the bottom line its the same Robin Hood economics.
    Obama's "rich" is something like people with a combined family income of 80k isn't it..? I have the exact number somewhere here but it is very low, basically 2 cops, 2 teachers, etc. There is a reason socialism never worked, and dont say because T.Kennedy wasn't running it

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    I know repubs love to throw around communism and socialism, but I think you might be overstating it a tad.

    Last night, Obama was trying to add the finishing touches on the party and on his base, as wlel as pin point the flaws in the republicans, which from most pundits he did and did well.

    Now, Mccain will have his chance, and his has alot of artillery to shoot with come next week. I am eager to see how he does
    I don't think I'm overstating it. That being said, I understand why you would think that and we can leave it at that. I agree that his speech played well to his own supporters and those with democratic leanings, and from that angle I think his speech worked.

    What I'm very interested in seeing is the debates. I think Obama can give a good speech if properly prepared, but if he gets outside his prepared responses he gets in trouble has a tendency to say things that are highly quotable, similar to the younger Bush. McCain on the other hand is not as sexy a speaker, but tends to think well on his feet.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    not really sure why you are relating this to feminists, however hse has been in office for 18 months and is already under investigation, not a good sign and it will be exploited for certain

    Because the allegations were for death threats against his wife/ex-wife and questions of domestic abuse. An alleged wife beating police officer...generally feminists won't like that.




    only conservative soccer moms. dem soccer moms will realize the stark differences between her and Hillary and will not make the vote. Again, she is a STRONG conservative, she is a creationist, and wants it taught in schools, she is against Roe v. Wade. If certain soccer moms agree then of course they will vote, but her selection really did not do much for the McCain weaknesses, expecially the economy.
    Soccer moms were bascially moderates, right down the middle. Thats why they are a key demogrpahic because they don't follow party lines. They are not partisan voters.

    In fact, more of them are democrats within the midwest and helped a Republican win in 2004.






    I think the critiscm is not necessarily her as it will be McCain, as he has been harping on the Obama lack of experience and rightfully so, then chooses Palin who 19 months ago was a mayor of a small town.
    Yes, a VP canadiate who has more experience than a Presidential candidate. Its not an arguemtn they will win.
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  18. shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    he just threw away his race.... his changes are gone.... he's done.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    Obama is a man...oh where you talking about someone else?


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  20. Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    he just threw away his race.... his changes are gone.... he's done.
    Someones been reading too much CNN/AP

    Actually.. you're right, this will be the only election in history where the VP choice influenced the outcome. oh wait, no.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    he just threw away his race.... his changes are gone.... he's done.
    You sir are quite right. The majority of voters needed to see a VP ready to step in as Commander and Chief if McCains health fails.

  22. Palin’s an excellent choice. Here’s how I see it.
    1) McCain’s a little too far to the left to please the right, Palin brings the ticket a little closer to the center of the Republican party.
    2) Related to 1) she’s ardently pro-life and shows it. It take’s a lot of courage to raise a Down’s syndrome child. I understand most are aborted now.
    3) She’s an extremely popular governor (80% approval).
    4) She’s a woman.
    5) Her lack of foreign policy experience isn’t as big a deal, at least compared to Obama.

    I think she will take most of Hillarie’s female support. There are 3 reasons for this. 1) Obama is really far left, Hillarie’s supporters may have as much in common with McCain as Obama. 2) Two more reasons Hillarie lost is because she’s a woman and not black. I’ll use my wife as an example. She’s a liberal, not extremely, somewhere in the middle. She dislikes Obama almost as much as I do. Whether she votes at all depended on McCain’s choice. Now I think she’s more excited than I am about Palin (she actually cried at the announcement). I think my wife is reasonably representative of Democratic women. Though I don't like Hillarie, even I think she got screwed, I can't imagine what her supporters think.


    At the risk of appearing overzealous and assuming no surprise about Palin, McCain is gonna cream Obama.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    You sir are quite right. The majority of voters needed to see a VP ready to step in as Commander and Chief if McCains health fails.
    A woman who was the governor in the largest state in the country can't handle the job? Just because she's a woman does not mean she can't do the job (I love playing the gender card )

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DBinMD View Post
    Palin’s an excellent choice. Here’s how I see it.
    1) McCain’s a little too far to the left to please the right, Palin brings the ticket a little closer to the center of the Republican party.
    2) Related to 1) she’s ardently pro-life and shows it. It take’s a lot of courage to raise a Down’s syndrome child. I understand most are aborted now.
    3) She’s an extremely popular governor (80% approval).
    4) She’s a woman.
    5) Her lack of foreign policy experience isn’t as big a deal, at least compared to Obama.

    I think she will take most of Hillarie’s female support. There are 3 reasons for this. 1) Obama is really far left, Hillarie’s supporters may have as much in common with McCain as Obama. 2) Two more reasons Hillarie lost is because she’s a woman and not black. I’ll use my wife as an example. She’s a liberal, not extremely, somewhere in the middle. She dislikes Obama almost as much as I do. Whether she votes at all depended on McCain’s choice. Now I think she’s more excited than I am about Palin (she actually cried at the announcement). I think my wife is reasonably representative of Democratic women. Though I don't like Hillarie, even I think she got screwed, I can't imagine what her supporters think.


    At the risk of appearing overzealous and assuming no surprise about Palin, McCain is gonna cream Obama.
    Excellent points. I agree with you.

    Just think, 19 million pissed off Hillary supporters who really dont like Obama...

  25. Palin is a mixed bag.

    Being a mother of 5 and having blue collar leanings do not qualify one to be POTUS. She has virtually no political experience at all--two years experience as governor of an essentially uninhabited state, that's it. This destroys McCain's argument that Obama's lack of political experience makes him unfit to be President, one of the strongest attacks McCain had been making. And her fitness to be POTUS is critical, since if McCain is elected President she would be just one fading heartbeat away from the office herself. She is anti-abortion, whereas the vast majority of American women are pro-choice; she holds diametrically opposed political opinions on most issues as compared to HRC. I don't see the unhappy Hillary supporters jumping ship because of Palin.

    But perhaps she's a brilliant orator, something McCain isn't, and Obama is. There must be something other than her age, gender, and party affiliation that persuaded McCain to recruit her as his VP candidate.
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