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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    I know repubs love to throw around communism and socialism, but I think you might be overstating it a tad.

    Last night, Obama was trying to add the finishing touches on the party and on his base, as wlel as pin point the flaws in the republicans, which from most pundits he did and did well.

    Now, Mccain will have his chance, and his has alot of artillery to shoot with come next week. I am eager to see how he does
    I don't think I'm overstating it. That being said, I understand why you would think that and we can leave it at that. I agree that his speech played well to his own supporters and those with democratic leanings, and from that angle I think his speech worked.

    What I'm very interested in seeing is the debates. I think Obama can give a good speech if properly prepared, but if he gets outside his prepared responses he gets in trouble has a tendency to say things that are highly quotable, similar to the younger Bush. McCain on the other hand is not as sexy a speaker, but tends to think well on his feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    not really sure why you are relating this to feminists, however hse has been in office for 18 months and is already under investigation, not a good sign and it will be exploited for certain

    Because the allegations were for death threats against his wife/ex-wife and questions of domestic abuse. An alleged wife beating police officer...generally feminists won't like that.




    only conservative soccer moms. dem soccer moms will realize the stark differences between her and Hillary and will not make the vote. Again, she is a STRONG conservative, she is a creationist, and wants it taught in schools, she is against Roe v. Wade. If certain soccer moms agree then of course they will vote, but her selection really did not do much for the McCain weaknesses, expecially the economy.
    Soccer moms were bascially moderates, right down the middle. Thats why they are a key demogrpahic because they don't follow party lines. They are not partisan voters.

    In fact, more of them are democrats within the midwest and helped a Republican win in 2004.






    I think the critiscm is not necessarily her as it will be McCain, as he has been harping on the Obama lack of experience and rightfully so, then chooses Palin who 19 months ago was a mayor of a small town.
    Yes, a VP canadiate who has more experience than a Presidential candidate. Its not an arguemtn they will win.
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    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    he just threw away his race.... his changes are gone.... he's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    Obama is a man...oh where you talking about someone else?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    he just threw away his race.... his changes are gone.... he's done.
    Someones been reading too much CNN/AP

    Actually.. you're right, this will be the only election in history where the VP choice influenced the outcome. oh wait, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    shes good looking for a politician and all but taking in to account his age I would not want her running the white house with such little experience.

    he just threw away his race.... his changes are gone.... he's done.
    You sir are quite right. The majority of voters needed to see a VP ready to step in as Commander and Chief if McCains health fails.
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    Palin’s an excellent choice. Here’s how I see it.
    1) McCain’s a little too far to the left to please the right, Palin brings the ticket a little closer to the center of the Republican party.
    2) Related to 1) she’s ardently pro-life and shows it. It take’s a lot of courage to raise a Down’s syndrome child. I understand most are aborted now.
    3) She’s an extremely popular governor (80% approval).
    4) She’s a woman.
    5) Her lack of foreign policy experience isn’t as big a deal, at least compared to Obama.

    I think she will take most of Hillarie’s female support. There are 3 reasons for this. 1) Obama is really far left, Hillarie’s supporters may have as much in common with McCain as Obama. 2) Two more reasons Hillarie lost is because she’s a woman and not black. I’ll use my wife as an example. She’s a liberal, not extremely, somewhere in the middle. She dislikes Obama almost as much as I do. Whether she votes at all depended on McCain’s choice. Now I think she’s more excited than I am about Palin (she actually cried at the announcement). I think my wife is reasonably representative of Democratic women. Though I don't like Hillarie, even I think she got screwed, I can't imagine what her supporters think.


    At the risk of appearing overzealous and assuming no surprise about Palin, McCain is gonna cream Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    You sir are quite right. The majority of voters needed to see a VP ready to step in as Commander and Chief if McCains health fails.
    A woman who was the governor in the largest state in the country can't handle the job? Just because she's a woman does not mean she can't do the job (I love playing the gender card )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBinMD View Post
    Palin’s an excellent choice. Here’s how I see it.
    1) McCain’s a little too far to the left to please the right, Palin brings the ticket a little closer to the center of the Republican party.
    2) Related to 1) she’s ardently pro-life and shows it. It take’s a lot of courage to raise a Down’s syndrome child. I understand most are aborted now.
    3) She’s an extremely popular governor (80% approval).
    4) She’s a woman.
    5) Her lack of foreign policy experience isn’t as big a deal, at least compared to Obama.

    I think she will take most of Hillarie’s female support. There are 3 reasons for this. 1) Obama is really far left, Hillarie’s supporters may have as much in common with McCain as Obama. 2) Two more reasons Hillarie lost is because she’s a woman and not black. I’ll use my wife as an example. She’s a liberal, not extremely, somewhere in the middle. She dislikes Obama almost as much as I do. Whether she votes at all depended on McCain’s choice. Now I think she’s more excited than I am about Palin (she actually cried at the announcement). I think my wife is reasonably representative of Democratic women. Though I don't like Hillarie, even I think she got screwed, I can't imagine what her supporters think.


    At the risk of appearing overzealous and assuming no surprise about Palin, McCain is gonna cream Obama.
    Excellent points. I agree with you.

    Just think, 19 million pissed off Hillary supporters who really dont like Obama...
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    Palin is a mixed bag.

    Being a mother of 5 and having blue collar leanings do not qualify one to be POTUS. She has virtually no political experience at all--two years experience as governor of an essentially uninhabited state, that's it. This destroys McCain's argument that Obama's lack of political experience makes him unfit to be President, one of the strongest attacks McCain had been making. And her fitness to be POTUS is critical, since if McCain is elected President she would be just one fading heartbeat away from the office herself. She is anti-abortion, whereas the vast majority of American women are pro-choice; she holds diametrically opposed political opinions on most issues as compared to HRC. I don't see the unhappy Hillary supporters jumping ship because of Palin.

    But perhaps she's a brilliant orator, something McCain isn't, and Obama is. There must be something other than her age, gender, and party affiliation that persuaded McCain to recruit her as his VP candidate.
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    1) She was the runner up for Ms. Alaska (yeah thats right, she was a beauty queen)
    2) She has served a variety of public positions before becoming governor of Alaska, do some research
    3) She is conservative, and has been rated as a true "reformer" of political pork bill spending.
    4) She's a woman
    5) She's a woman
    and last but not least
    6) She's a woman that most women can relate to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    A woman who was the governor in the largest state in the country can't handle the job? Just because she's a woman does not mean she can't do the job (I love playing the gender card )
    biggest state in the union if you are counting trees and rain deer.... definitely not as far as population or economics....

    ohh.. and lets not forget she has what? 2 years of experience as a governor... bottom line she's not ready to be a commander a chief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    biggest state in the union if you are counting trees and rain deer.... definitely not as far as population or economics....
    You're right Alaska is pretty podunk, but the governor's job is probably the closest in government to that of the president. The fact that she is doing as well as she is (80% approval rating?!) says a lot about her.


    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    ohh.. and lets not forget she has what? 2 years of experience as a governor... bottom line she's not ready to be a commander a chief.
    Barry has 2 years experience as a senator, most of which was spent campaigning, and 2 years as a state senator, a good share of which was spent campaigning....and that somehow makes him more ready for president than Palin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    biggest state in the union if you are counting trees and rain deer.... definitely not as far as population or economics....

    ohh.. and lets not forget she has what? 2 years of experience as a governor... bottom line she's not ready to be a commander a chief.
    this is the point that many are missing. McCain is 72 today, and has a recent history with cancer. Her lack of experience and being a "heartbeat" from the presidency can be a bit scary.

    I know so many repubs are thinking that the 18 mill. Hillary supporters are jumping ship, but the vast majority will be right alongside Hillary and voting for Obama. At the end of the day, she might take some, but she will lose him some other bible belt good ole boys, who just might stay home in November
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    this was an ill advice vice president choice.... he's done!


    maybe a democrat made that suggestion to him
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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    this was an ill advice vice president choice.... he's done!


    maybe a democrat made that suggestion to him
    Every conservative republican I've spoken with has commended the choice.

    It stopped Obama's "momentum" cold coming out of the convention.

    My wife is voting now, she hasn't voted since 2000.

    I'm voting now....I wasn't planning on it because I live in Maryland and didn't think my vote would count again...this nominee ironically gave me hope

    Even she gets 10% of Hillary's supporters, that will still be enough votes to swing the election in McCain's favor. Obama was only up by 6 points this morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    1) She was the runner up for Ms. Alaska (yeah thats right, she was a beauty queen)
    2) She has served a variety of public positions before becoming governor of Alaska, do some research
    3) She is conservative, and has been rated as a true "reformer" of political pork bill spending.
    4) She's a woman
    5) She's a woman
    and last but not least
    6) She's a woman that most women can relate to.
    And she hunts MOOSE's I must praise the slayer of moose
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    Too bad she isn't black as well. That would solidify the win.
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    Even in this thread we are still seeing people say that "she is inexperienced" I find that argument laughable coming from supporters of a candidate who hasn't even finished one term in the Senate (which has no executive powers) She has more executive experience than the Democratic presidential candidate.

    To the poster on here who only keeps repeating that McCain is done because of this choice, with all due respect you are only kidding yourself. I can't say I've ever seen a VP candidate have such an immediate positive effect on a campaign as Palin has had on the McCain campaign. This choice has completely stolen the thunder from the DNC. The democratic party has been in a scramble to try to find some negatives about this and the best they can come up with is lack of experience? Hello pot, this is the kettle.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by atjnutrition2 View Post
    Even in this thread we are still seeing people say that "she is inexperienced" I find that argument laughable coming from supporters of a candidate who hasn't even finished one term in the Senate (which has no executive powers) She has more executive experience than the Democratic presidential candidate.

    To the poster on here who only keeps repeating that McCain is done because of this choice, with all due respect you are only kidding yourself. I can't say I've ever seen a VP candidate have such an immediate positive effect on a campaign as Palin has had on the McCain campaign. This choice has completely stolen the thunder from the DNC. The democratic party has been in a scramble to try to find some negatives about this and the best they can come up with is lack of experience? Hello pot, this is the kettle.....
    100% agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobInKuwait View Post
    Every conservative republican I've spoken with has commended the choice.

    It stopped Obama's "momentum" cold coming out of the convention.

    My wife is voting now, she hasn't voted since 2000.

    I'm voting now....I wasn't planning on it because I live in Maryland and didn't think my vote would count again...this nominee ironically gave me hope

    Even she gets 10% of Hillary's supporters, that will still be enough votes to swing the election in McCain's favor. Obama was only up by 6 points this morning.

    I think everyone should make an effort to vote... as far as i know all votes are counted and they make a difference in close races.

    I'm not sure that the Hillary's supporters who are not happy that she did not win the nomination will jump ship just b/c the republicans VP choice is a woman... Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin are nowhere close to be in the same league, if you know what I mean!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atjnutrition2 View Post
    Even in this thread we are still seeing people say that "she is inexperienced" I find that argument laughable coming from supporters of a candidate who hasn't even finished one term in the Senate (which has no executive powers) She has more executive experience than the Democratic presidential candidate.

    To the poster on here who only keeps repeating that McCain is done because of this choice, with all due respect you are only kidding yourself. I can't say I've ever seen a VP candidate have such an immediate positive effect on a campaign as Palin has had on the McCain campaign. This choice has completely stolen the thunder from the DNC. The democratic party has been in a scramble to try to find some negatives about this and the best they can come up with is lack of experience? Hello pot, this is the kettle.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    100% agree.

    But if you are referring to Reaper, I still like the guy!
    I don't have anything against anyone on here. Just stating my opinion. Everyone on here has their own thoughts and for the most part nothing posted on here will change anyone's mind. I just look at this as a dumping spot for everyone's thoughts and opinions.
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    Attention democrats, save your gas driving to the polls and dont vote. I will just cancel your vote anyways.

    I was really pulling for McCain to pick a half black, half hispanic woman but this will do. Brilliant work my McCain... honestly I didnt think his campaign was capable of strategy of that caliber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atjnutrition2 View Post
    Even in this thread we are still seeing people say that "she is inexperienced" I find that argument laughable coming from supporters of a candidate who hasn't even finished one term in the Senate (which has no executive powers) She has more executive experience than the Democratic presidential candidate.
    .....
    Huh , I try to avoid senate committees the have more than enough power for me. Suprisingly the can do things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    100% agree.

    But if you are referring to Reaper, I still like the guy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    Huh , I try to avoid senate committees the have more than enough power for me. Suprisingly the can do things.
    Yea, just look how bad the congress messed up our country
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by atjnutrition2 View Post
    I don't have anything against anyone on here. Just stating my opinion. Everyone on here has their own thoughts and for the most part nothing posted on here will change anyone's mind. I just look at this as a dumping spot for everyone's thoughts and opinions.

    thats all we're here for.. and throw some jabs back and forth
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    I don't see this as being a horribly heated debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DormantFiber View Post
    biggest state in the union if you are counting trees and rain deer.... definitely not as far as population or economics....
    And Delaware is. Doh.



    ohh.. and lets not forget she has what? 2 years of experience as a governor... bottom line she's not ready to be a commander a chief.
    Thats 2 years more than Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Peterman View Post
    Thats 2 years more than Obama.
    Word. Executive experience to boot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    Word. Executive experience to boot.
    Here is what she did yesterday.

    Palin Signs Natural Gas Pipeline License Bill.

    According to TransCanada s plan, the line, which the company estimates will cost $26 billion to build, would ship about 4 billion cubic feet of natural gas a day starting in 2018.

    Alternative energy anyone?


    That's more than Obama has done in the last 2 years. hehe
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    Jp, just stop... it's too easy
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    its all over.... most republicans are still in shock over this choice.... i don't think they will recover any time soon!
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