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  1. Good job KC! Looks like your cycle gave you some good mass. I'm sure a nice long bulk will do wonders for your frame. It's tough sometimes bulking, putting massive amounts of food down your throat even when your not hungry. Bulking, I love it!


  2. Just a quick question... Why do people not try and get a good solid base from training,nutrition,and rest before they mess with gear???
    PeAcE
    Krypton32
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  3. Hopefully they do. That is something that is repeated time and time again by mods, admins and members. AS's and PH's are to be used in conjunction with proper training, diet and rest schedules after most natural gains have been maximized. Or otherwise your just wasting your money on something you could have done naturally. Some people are also just straped for time and figure they want to grow (the easier way). Hey its there decision. You cant tell them not to.

    Im curious as to why you ask? KC isnt a newjack from what I gathered. You feeling guilty my friend about something my friend?
    And another question, What is your idea of a solid base? 50 having lifted for 25 years and 8 % bf? or 22 lifted for 6 months and 22% bf?

    db

  4. I ate and trained properly for over a year before i used gear. What the fuk do you care anyways? Not like i didn't research and I feel the $100 it cost me to do the cycle was a pretty good investment I'm never planning on competing or hitting 250lbs so the gear sped up my genetic potential and i wouldn't of done it any other way. Thanks for having my back DB

  5. Good progress K.C., especially from that skinny little hoodlum pic j/k. Are you going to cut up now? how tall are you anyways?
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  6. That guy Krypton32 sure has some balls, first post and hes flaming a respected member. Anyway, NICE work for 100 bones.. your my new hero! Oh I wanted to tell you that your arms would like even better if you shaved them IMO.

  7. Originally posted by fizler
    Oh I wanted to tell you that your arms would like even better if you shaved them IMO.
    Damn bro, you hitting on me?

  8. I don't think he is flaming you bro but I know it took me 3 years to go from 168 to 185 so I can understand why you Juiced you might want to consider running ldex the next time you hit a cycle it will help with the water retention

  9. I believe his comment is entirely warranted.

    How does anyone know what their "real" potential is if they get on gear before at least 5 years training? There is a *LOT* one can do with just average genetics.

    IMO someone who is 5'11" 210 lbs 8% after _more than 5 years, and isn't gaining anymore no matter what, *THEN* it's time to start maybe a cycle of PH.

    But then again, that's just my opinion. It's also my opinion that everyone should do what they feel like. I know I would feel like a ***** if I had gone into androgens before getting to my natural limits, but then again, I'm especially hard on myself.

    But, I'm 36 and I still haven't reached my limits.

  10. You must be impressed with the gains to your chest and tri's from the rear pic, and overall back thickness/width...... Great Job bro

  11. Originally posted by LunaHotel
    I believe his comment is entirely warranted.

    How does anyone know what their "real" potential is if they get on gear before at least 5 years training? There is a *LOT* one can do with just average genetics.

    IMO someone who is 5'11" 210 lbs 8% after _more than 5 years, and isn't gaining anymore no matter what, *THEN* it's time to start maybe a cycle of PH.

    But then again, that's just my opinion. It's also my opinion that everyone should do what they feel like. I know I would feel like a ***** if I had gone into androgens before getting to my natural limits, but then again, I'm especially hard on myself.

    But, I'm 36 and I still haven't reached my limits.
    Everyone's opinions are welcomed but only those that are praise are the only ones i give a fuk about
    My opinion is this, it takes so long to put on any mass without gaining a great amount of fat, so why bother? I'm not trying to impress anyone with my dedication and don't hide the fact to anyone (including parents/friends/aquaintances), and i did it for myself and none other. The biggest laugh is when the hardcore thugs that i used to have beef wth, put there head down and shut there mouth when i see them now
    My buddy was 130lbs in high school, now after three cycles he's 200, only thing i gave him grief about is the fact that his first two cycles he did he knew nothing about AAS.

    Anyone and everyone's oppinions are welcomed, i've said my part and if anyone wants to disagree that's fine, it won't change any thought in my mind on future cycles or the one i've done so far

  12. Originally posted by SHUTUP&TRAIN
    You must be impressed with the gains to your chest and tri's from the rear pic, and overall back thickness/width...... Great Job bro
    I was very! But would be more impressed if i gained some quads like that guy in your avatar

  13. You did propecia spots injections into your forearms didnt you ?

  14. Shave your arms.

  15. Originally posted by r00tz
    Shave your arms.
    Easy there newbie, let's see your pics

  16. Originally posted by Kitchen Chemist
    My opinion is this, it takes so long to put on any mass without gaining a great amount of fat, so why bother?
    Well, that makes a lot of sense, bro. I didn't mean to insult or anything.

  17. Don't got any sorry. Don't worry I look like you, but with less arm hair and in much better shape.


  18. ooh **** newbs gone wild.

  19. Originally posted by LunaHotel
    I believe his comment is entirely warranted.

    How does anyone know what their "real" potential is if they get on gear before at least 5 years training? There is a *LOT* one can do with just average genetics.

    IMO someone who is 5'11" 210 lbs 8% after _more than 5 years, and isn't gaining anymore no matter what, *THEN* it's time to start maybe a cycle of PH.

    But then again, that's just my opinion. It's also my opinion that everyone should do what they feel like. I know I would feel like a ***** if I had gone into androgens before getting to my natural limits, but then again, I'm especially hard on myself.

    But, I'm 36 and I still haven't reached my limits.
    Very well said. My thoughts exactly.

  20. Originally posted by Kitchen Chemist


    Everyone's opinions are welcomed but only those that are praise are the only ones i give a fuk about
    Bump

  21. Originally posted by LunaHotel


    Well, that makes a lot of sense, bro. I didn't mean to insult or anything.
    No offence taken bro, i can't hate on a fellow canadian regardless

  22. a 100bucks for the entire cycle?? how did u do that, PCT alone costs way more than that.

  23. Luna and Benz,
    What are your stats, Luna being 36 and all and still not having reached his potential and Benz backing Lunas statement. Im just curious because Im 25, 6' 1" 230-240lbs and fairly lean (besides a little in the middle during bulk) and Ive been working out since I was about 13 or 14 and started heavy training in High school for all the sports I played. I have been stuck at around anywhere between 225 and 240 for quite some time now. Under your definition does that classify me as having reached my potential or should I continue trying to grow as I have for the last couple years while nothing happens?

    KC has been lifting for some time now, he's not inexperienced as to AAS's/PH's and Id be willing to bet he knows more about Lifting, AAS's and PH's then both of you. Its his body, He knows the consequences of his actions (Unlike many of the Newbs that you two must be mistaking him for) and Im sure he has thought about what you to have just reiterated on prior to his us of any gear what so ever. People take responsibility for there own actions, If you two feel that he hasnt reached his "real" potential then well, thats nice but dont condemn him for it. This is his Cycle thread, not his ask your opinion no his use of gear thread.

    I agree with you too in the theory behind what your saying, but that doesnt mean that everyones, and I prefer Natural, Potential will be reached in Five years or that you must be 40 yr old before you should feel ok about using gear.

    No offence to either of you two, i just felt the wording behind Lunas statement was a little harsh and to quote it again was like you were trying to rub KC's face in the dirt. He's a big boy, as all of us are, and he knows his body better then any of us.

    db

  24. Originally posted by db682
    I just felt the wording behind Lunas statement was a little harsh and to quote it again was like you were trying to rub KC's face in the dirt.
    I for one would never say that i know more than jb about any aspect of training or knowledge on diet etc. But i do agree with the above that db said.....

  25. Originally posted by Kitchen Chemist


    I for one would never say that i know more than jb about any aspect of training or knowledge on diet etc.
    That would be wise
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