Did I do the lat pose correct?
- 05-17-2007, 07:46 PM
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05-17-2007, 09:13 PM
05-17-2007, 09:37 PM
Not bad at all man.... Might try raising the entire shoulder girdle just a tad, and work on creating a bit more rotation of the shoulder so that the front delts flexing can show over the top. Does wonders for the silhouette shape.
It's very hard to describe......... hopefully this makes a little sense.
05-18-2007, 12:22 AM
A mass boy, does that mean I am to fat!
I tried getting the shoulders to show more, hows one of these?
05-18-2007, 12:56 AM
Not meaning to hijack but can someone tell me how you show good flex pose for shoulders?
Oh and ummm......nice flex lat pose thing yah!
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Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) is an important compound in immune function and tissue repair. It is required for the synthesis of important neurotransmitters, amino acids, and the synthesis of connective tissues (8). Vitamin C also has strong antioxidant properties, enhances iron absorption, and is needed for the formation of cholesterol-based hormones (8).
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Osteobolin-C limits the inflammatory process and by minimizing myeloperoxidase activity in the damaged bone or connective tissue. Osteobolin-C through the process described above can attenuate pain and swelling associated with bone, tendon, and ligament damage, which allows for faster healing and a quicker time to recovery. Osteobolin-C can speed recovery from injuries that occur during training and every day life, plus it can it help reduce pain/discomfort from old injuries. Both anecdotal and scientific evidence exists proving that Osteobolin-C can alleviate pain, and in many cases has shown the ability to promote healing even in old injuries.
The Vitamin C contained in Osteobolin-C is important because it converts proline to hydroxyproline, the main substance needed for the formation of collagen, which is a very important structural element in tissue remodeling (8,11). Scientific research has indicated that the use of Osteobolin-C can greatly speed up healing in the bone fracture process, as some studies have suggested up to a 30% increase in bone mineralization over a period of six weeks, resulting in drastically (up to 50%) reduced healing times in test subjects (2, 5). In some studies, cissus quadrangularis (the main ingredient in Osteobolin-C) has been shown to reduce healing time of bone fractures up to 53% (5).
Due to it’s universally beneficial effects, Osteobolin-C has the ability to address the needs of the all individuals, from those with low-to-average activity levels to the competitive athlete. Although a great deal of research exists on the fracture healing qualities of Osteobolin-C, the effect of Osteobolin-C on the joints and connective tissue has been under-researched. However, a large amount of anecdotal data on athletes (track, weight lifting, and football) has been collected, with a growing assortment of anecdotal and empirical evidence that demonstrates the ability of Osteobolin-C to speed recovery, ease pain, reduce inflammation, and subsequently reduce damage from hard training (9,10). There is strong scientific evidence that Osteobolin-C’s ability to mobilize fibroblasts and chondroblasts to an injured area indicates that Osteobolin-C can also accelerate the process of regeneration in these tissues and aid in healing old injuries since these same compounds are precursors to cartilage, tendons, and ligaments, (9,10). One case study involving a 42 year-old bodybuilder with a torn distal bicep tendon reported a reduction in healing time of about 40 % (9,10).
There are still many other extraordinary benefits to taking this amazing product. Osteobolin-C contains several important keto-steroids that, when ingested, exert various pro-anabolic actions. Tetracyclic triterpenoids (steroidal saponins) are probably the most important of these keto-steroids, as they exert a marked anti-catabolic effect, and are responsible for the vast majority of Osteobolin-C-related anti-glucocorticoid actions (1,2,3,4,5). The triterpenoids compete with cortisol for receptor sites, and have been shown to minimize the anti-anabolic actions of cortisol (5). Vitamin C is also important in this process, because it also competes for glucocorticoid sites, thus further reducing the amount of cortisol that can bind to any given receptor (6,7,8). Because Osteobolin-C is so versatile, dosages vary greatly, depending on the desired effect from the compound, and the anabolic dosage is higher than the therapeutic dosage.
In conclusion, Osteobolin-C can be considered a highly effective means of preventative and retroactive treatment of training stress and injuries, through both analgesic and connective-tissue strengthening processes.
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Udupa KN, Guru P (1964) Biomechanical and calcium studies on the effect of Cissus quadrangularis in fracture repair. . Ind. Jour. Med. Res. 52(5).
Udupa KN, Guru P (1963) Effect of Cissus quadrangularis The healing of cortisone treated fracture. Ind. Jour. Med. Res. 51(4).
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Chopra SS, Patel MR, Gupta LP, Datta IC (1975) Studies on Cissus q in Experimental Fracture Repair: Effect on Chemical parameters in the blood. Ind. Jour. Med. Res. 63(6).
The Healing Factor: Vitamin C Against Disease (1996) Irwin Stone.
Vit. C Requirments: Optimal Health Benefits v. Overdose (Vitamin C: Requirements, health benefits, overdose & deficiency symptoms) A moderately high does advocacy supporting site.
Unpublished Research- Applied Nutriceuticals Case Study: Healing of severely torn distal bicep tendon on 42 year-old weight lifter (2006).
Marieb, E. Human Anatomy and Physiology, 6th Edition. (2004). Pearson Benjamin Cummings, San Francisco.
Devi, C, Shyamala, JM (2005) Attenuation of neutrophil infilatration and proinflammatory cytokines by Cissus Quadrangularis (CQE): a possible prevention against gastric ulcerogenesis. J Herb Pharmacother. 5(3): 33-42.
05-19-2007, 10:13 AM
Looking good and up from 160!Great work!
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05-20-2007, 08:40 PM
I have a tip to give ya. If you try to play around with your shoulders... Try pushing them forward and up a little bit and your wings will come out a lot more. You'll see that your back should be completely "flat" if you know what I mean. It takes a while to get it, but practice makes perfect.
05-20-2007, 11:07 PM
05-21-2007, 09:20 AM
05-21-2007, 02:26 PM
Hmm, so what exactly am I doing with my hands then, pushing forward, down? This is more complicated than I thought
05-21-2007, 05:09 PM
These are last minute poses and really bad but just to give an idea.
Start by doing the relaxed pose as above.
Then integrate the hands. Just push down and backwards to make your lats come out even more.
06-17-2007, 01:22 PM
06-23-2007, 11:43 PM
rear lat pose
hey for the rear lat pose try making a fist with your thumbs out,put your knuckles into the your sides just above the waist but below the ribs thumbs in the back palms facing down elbows slightly forward chest in round the back
06-24-2007, 10:28 PM
i think when u get this down, you will know it and once u get it, its very simple to do. it help to push your shoulders forward. just keep practicing.
08-01-2007, 06:06 PM
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