[Proteinpowda]

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous

I should have actually mentioned them as the exception.. Chad and Berardi.

anyways, I get angry talking about that place.. so stop it.

Yeah we need to end this hijack....

Rockscar I posted a pic on my other thread just for you

[Apowerz6]

Yeah Powda you are a big guy, glad to have you over here you seem pretty Knowledgable!!! last hijack to this though I have used Hot Rox it is effective for 2months plus, but who wants too wait two months for some kick ass ECA like type of effect??? ANywho Rockscar keep up the good work hijack over I promise !!!

[Rockscar]

Originally Posted by Apowerz6

Yeah Powda you are a big guy, glad to have you over here you seem pretty Knowledgable!!! last hijack to this though I have used Hot Rox it is effective for 2months plus, but who wants too wait two months for some kick ass ECA like type of effect??? ANywho Rockscar keep up the good work hijack over I promise !!!

It's quite allright. I have not had the same experiences as Powda but that's because I don't worship their supps, so I don't really get into it their. I usually come here to look into supps and other things along those lines...

I'll post agin when I get to 185.

[Proteinpowda]

Originally Posted by Rockscar

It's quite allright. I have not had the same experiences as Powda but that's because I don't worship their supps, so I don't really get into it their. I usually come here to look into supps and other things along those lines...

I'll post agin when I get to 185.

I don't worship their supps.....that's why I got kicked off

[Proteinpowda]

Originally Posted by Apowerz6

Yeah Powda you are a big guy, glad to have you over here you seem pretty Knowledgable!!! last hijack to this though I have used Hot Rox it is effective for 2months plus, but who wants too wait two months for some kick ass ECA like type of effect??? ANywho Rockscar keep up the good work hijack over I promise !!!

Thanks for the kudos! I haven't ever used Hot-Rox for more than 4 weeks. My opinion is that if it's taking 2 months to see the results you want, your diet, not your supplements, needs to be revamped. Personally I think a really powerful stack is just plain caffeine + ephedrine HCL. I was taking that Fedra product + San's T2 a week or two ago. The good news was that I was up til 2am banging in floorboards in my house; the bad news was that I could feel my blood pressure shooting sky high (as in pulsating in my head) and that I couldn't sleep. Also I just stopped cold turkey after a week and got sick as hell for about two days. I felt like I had a fever yet my body temperature was only 97, and I couldn't move...caffeine withdrawl anyone? I should've tapered...

[Apowerz6]

Yeah caffine withdrawl is nuts when I stop cold turkeyi do 2 grams of L-tyrosine to ease the headache...

[Ectofighter]

That's amazing results. I however find putting on muscle seems to be a bit of a chore. I'm 6'1 and 150lbs. I do workout 5 days a week but seems as though I can't eat enough. I also would like to be rid of my bulging stomach. I have a six-pack but the bottom muscle is barely showing. How can I rid of this excess fat while bulking at the same time?

any thoughts?

[Rockscar]

Originally Posted by Ectofighter

That's amazing results. I however find putting on muscle seems to be a bit of a chore. I'm 6'1 and 150lbs. I do workout 5 days a week but seems as though I can't eat enough. I also would like to be rid of my bulging stomach. I have a six-pack but the bottom muscle is barely showing. How can I rid of this excess fat while bulking at the same time?

any thoughts?

Typically this approach is counterproductive in the overall bulking process. You CAn do it, but it takes a long long time for results.

1. You feel like you can't eat enough.
2. You are 150 and 6'1.
3. You feel you have a bulging stomach.

Number 2 and 3 really don't equate together. 1 and 2 are the things you should concentrate on. You do not need to even be looking at your stomach right now. Look at the core chest, shoulders back and legs. As these things grow, even with bulking fat that is essential your gut will not show as much since your frame will grow at a fater rate.

I'd go with force feeding 5k calories and lift heavy. If you do not put on 5-7 lbs in a month I'd be surprised.

Good luck.

[Proteinpowda]

Originally Posted by Ectofighter

That's amazing results. I however find putting on muscle seems to be a bit of a chore. I'm 6'1 and 150lbs. I do workout 5 days a week but seems as though I can't eat enough. I also would like to be rid of my bulging stomach. I have a six-pack but the bottom muscle is barely showing. How can I rid of this excess fat while bulking at the same time?

any thoughts?

Bulging Stomach? If you're 6'1 and only 150 it's not a bulging stomach, it's bad posture. I've been extremely lean and still looked like I had a gut b/c of not standing properly. Focus on keeping your back straighter (e.g. get rid of that lordosis). Try this: contract your glutes when you stand and you'll notice that you'll also have to co-contract your TVA (suck in your stomach) while also sticking your chest out like you're in the military....voila your gut is gone.

Now you're 6'1 and 150...while this might be an acceptable weight in Somalia (not to step on anyone's toes) it's not an acceptable weight in a bodybuilding community. You NEED to eat and lift...Get you ass to the gym 3-5x a week, lift some weights for lower reps (no more than 12, preferably 6-8), and do these lifts
1) Bench
2) Military press
3) Squats
4) Deadlifts
5) Rows
6) Chinups
7) Dips
8) Lunges

Or variations of these lifts
Cleans are also great...

Foods: Eat more calorically dense foods, e.g. Dried fruits instead of regular fruits, lots of nuts, peanut or almond butter, MEAT...
And one of the cheapest but densest foods..Pop-Tarts. Eat two pop tarts and some form of a protein shake 30 minutes prior to every workout.

And for reference why do I reccomened pop tarts before a workout? They have a GI of 70 which is moderate/high. By the time the sugar hits the bloodstream you should be working out which will blunt your insulin response....so rather than taking dextrose which will be absorbed too quick pop tarts are great..and they're cheap.

[toughchick401]

good work...

[w00kie]

holy cow! nice freakin job bro! Keep up the good work.

[Rockscar]

Originally Posted by w00kie

holy cow! nice freakin job bro! Keep up the good work.

Thanks to everyone. I appreciate the positive feedback! It definately helps me out.

[Rockscar]

Originally Posted by Ubiquitous

That board is a complete joke. Their censorship is borderline draconian.

I know of someone who's seen a few of the authors there... and he said they are toothpicks.. literally do not look like they train.. yet they write training articles....

I just had my first dose of censorship at T-Nation. Biotest just released their Gold Tribex.

In the article it say's their trib is so good and high quality that it "rivals Prohormones and pro streoids."

I quoted that and posted:

"C'mon guys, how can you say this and be serious at the same time?"

My post never showed up, nor was I notified why. This was the first time I actually called them on statements made.

[jujubee]

I'm a member over there been reading since 98 when it was a great source of info and people didnt know about it ....It didnt have flashy areas or chicks with nothing on (not that i mind) but when trib just came out i thought ..... Have i been being duped for years. No, it was just time to quit with their crap. I loved them for years, but come on TRib gold???? OMG theyve colored it gold-like. It must be like test then.

Now that I know ppl who i have seen write on there for a while ....what about m or any of their other products.

By the way I mostly read, and rarely write on boards.
Biodoc

[Rockscar]

Originally Posted by jujubee

I'm a member over there been reading since 98 when it was a great source of info and people didnt know about it ....It didnt have flashy areas or chicks with nothing on (not that i mind) but when trib just came out i thought ..... Have i been being duped for years. No, it was just time to quit with their crap. I loved them for years, but come on TRib gold???? OMG theyve colored it gold-like. It must be like test then.

Now that I know ppl who i have seen write on there for a while ....what about m or any of their other products.

By the way I mostly read, and rarely write on boards.
Biodoc

Well, I finally decided to see if they would answer a legit question on how they think it rivals PH's....I still like the site, but rarely go to the supp sections.

I will say their Grow protein tastes great, is good quality and is priced good.

[Proteinpowda]

Originally Posted by Rockscar

Well, I finally decided to see if they would answer a legit question on how they think it rivals PH's....I still like the site, but rarely go to the supp sections.

I will say their Grow protein tastes great, is good quality and is priced good.

It's priced good? I don't think so.

Lets do some math here: First off they try and dupe everyone into thinking whey is inferior...yet whey isolate is the first ingredient. So it's about half the product. That retails for about 6-7 a lb. So half the tub should cost about 7. The other half they claim is micellar (about 40% they say). So you're paying about $20/lb for this micellar casseine....which retails for 10-12.

Up to you my friend.

Granted it does taste good but have you tried IDS cappuchino yet?

[firetruck7]

Rockscar,

Nice job! Keep it up. Hope your back is doing well.

Good to see some other tnation guys here. I go by another name over there, but have to agree with you to a point.

Mag10, worked friggin great for me.

Spike, hotrox, trib, m, myostat(duh), and methoxy were nominal at best, although I have to admit training and diet were never as good as when I did the mag10.

Still love their protien, and the new bars. I have had more than one post censored, but still love the site for all the free info they give out.

Most all supps are junk, now I just use the stuff that actually works

Firetruck