[Renton405]

Yea its going pretty well, and I feel alot better than I was on cycle...The puffyness and water bloat is comming down at least, waist size went down immediatly, i think the 4ad ratio was too much over the 1T 1:2..each had 3grms 1T and 6grm 4AD... Next time I will make the 1T the higher ratio , and the 4ad alot lower...Or maybe just take out the 4ad alltogether and add fina and make it a much more dry cycle...But summer isnt here yet, so im not cutting yet for another few months...just gonna maintain...Its weird cause ever since I started PCT my vascularity has increased....

[Grant]

Yea, I noticed the same thing about my last 4adcyp cycle. When I came off I got vascular as hell, its kind of like unwrapping a present. heh

[Meerschaum]

Originally Posted by Renton405

Well lotsa kids with screennames like musclehead, beefhead, etc tend to be twigs from what ive seen..hence the need to compensate themselves with a SN like that

good pics man, ignore the trolls who are too stupid to get an avatar, and too ashamed to post their own pictures, good work and keep at it!

[Funny Monkey]

Originally Posted by Grant

Yea, I noticed the same thing about my last 4adcyp cycle. When I came off I got vascular as hell, its kind of like unwrapping a present. heh

Renton: dont listen to crazybeef's **** you look fine just need to trim a bit after you make a full recovery.

I have noticed some sick vascularity in my legs after finishing my 1T 4-ad I wonder why that is you think that it is from high BP?

[Renton405]

Originally Posted by Funny Monkey

Renton: dont listen to crazybeef's **** you look fine just need to trim a bit after you make a full recovery.

I have noticed some sick vascularity in my legs after finishing my 1T 4-ad I wonder why that is you think that it is from high BP?

Thanks...Yea I dont know the exact reason why. But maybe it has something to do with the water retention and bloat, espesially more with 'wet' PH/AAS like 4ad, m14add or dbol....I havent cut calories down much like people advised, and Im just maintaining, Im happy my strength hasnt gone down at all. When late spring/summer comes Ill start a cutting cycle...I pretty much do all the bulking in winter without worrying too much about fat, cause I have a fast metabolism and can cut down when I want ....I actually may have gone a little overboard with the calories during the cycle maybe, cause with around 4-5 meals a day I was having 2-3 600 calorie shakes each day(and thats excluding the milk added)...either that or my metabolism is getting slower as i get into my later 20s..

[diplomats]

Originally Posted by Renton405

Thanks...Yea I dont know the exact reason why. But maybe it has something to do with the water retention and bloat, espesially more with 'wet' PH/AAS like 4ad, m14add or dbol....I havent cut calories down much like people advised, and Im just maintaining, Im happy my strength hasnt gone down at all. When late spring/summer comes Ill start a cutting cycle...I pretty much do all the bulking in winter without worrying too much about fat, cause I have a fast metabolism and can cut down when I want ....I actually may have gone a little overboard with the calories during the cycle maybe, cause with around 4-5 meals a day I was having 2-3 600 calorie shakes each day(and thats excluding the milk added)...either that or my metabolism is getting slower as i get into my later 20s..

dude thats nothing!! when i was on my Finigenx, m14add, 1-test cycle i was taking 3 1000 calories homemade weight gainer shakes and eating and addition 3500 from whole foods. I only did it for 2 weeks though, just to shock my body and that did the trick, ended up gaining 26 pounds, going from 191 to 217.

good luck with your pct.

[Grant]

Originally Posted by diplomats

dude thats nothing!! when i was on my Finigenx, m14add, 1-test cycle i was taking 3 1000 calories homemade weight gainer shakes and eating and addition 3500 from whole foods. I only did it for 2 weeks though, just to shock my body and that did the trick, ended up gaining 26 pounds, going from 191 to 217.

good luck with your pct.

How much fat did you gain?

[Renton405]

Diplomats, thumbs up on your gains....I dont know if Id be able to eat that much without gaining too much fat....I think maybe Ill keep my gains more steady instead of trying to gain as much weight as I can each week...Although my vascularity is aloit better off cycle, so maybe its mostly a layer of water...I havent lost any weight though since the cycle...maybe 1 pound...but Im still 200-201 and the highest I was on cycle was around 202.5 i think...I dont know if this is as far as reaching my genetic limit, or if it just means my body does well at keeping gains off a cycle...strength is still going up... did 290 on the smith this time, hopefully I will break the 300 mark soon....

[Renton405]

201.5 today...wow, havent lost barely anything since the cycle...finally got to 290 on the smith for bench press, hopefully I will break the 300 mark this month....however I dont know if this is my 'true' bench press, cause of the added balance and safety support with the smith...when im using dumbells i have to take the weight down considerably, dumbells for some reason really kill my joints and cause pain...im not too good with balancing weights so i usually stick with barbells, ez-curl and the smith...

Im surprised my lifting power hasnt gone down since the cycle...