[Grant]

Originally Posted by crazybeef5555

why would he need nolva? he already has a nice pair of breasts!

Obviously you dont know what nolva is used for....

Whats up with all these trolls latley?

[Renton405]

Originally Posted by crazybeef5555

not everyone needs nolva, but because gyno is something very difficult to get rid of once it's there, you should always have it or take it just in case. IMO you should do a long cutting phase for about 6 months using ecy on and off. Once you've shredded all that bodyfat away, do a month of lifting with maintenance calories, and then go on a bulker using either test/dbol/eq (test enanthate 500 mg/week for 3 months, dbol for first month, eq for last 2 months), or if you want to stick with ph's run 4ad for 4 weeks and m1t for the last 2. take a month off and repeat. In any case yur results will be astounding if you cut for a while and then with low bf% start another bulker.

Listen to this 18 year old, lol....Its funny being told your 'uninformed' by a kid, lol...kids these days, lol

anyway



6oxo, tribulus, and nolva is my full pct stack..I mentioned the 6oxo because this is my first time using it...gyno wasnt that bad...i think when people look at well developed pecs they think gyno right off the bat...or jealousy...

strength hasnt gone down, still using 270-280lbs on bench/smith for 6-8 reps...and 240 for regular ....im actually gonna try to shoot for 285 or even 290 tommorow with elbow supports tommorow on the smith...this 6oxo really seems to work well with retaining strength

[Wedgylx]

Originally Posted by Renton405

Listen to this 18 year old, lol



6oxo, tribulus, and nolva is my full pct stack..

Cool bro, what are you using for dosage?

[Renton405]

Originally Posted by Wedgylx

Cool bro, what are you using for dosage?

STarting off at 40mg, for first half of month, then down to 20mg during the end... and then 3 capules of 6oxo at nightime with food...

[crazybeef5555]

kinda funny this "kid" benches more than you. Not that bench is that impotant, but i still can, and im not fat either.

[crazybeef5555]

and yes i know what nolva is for, but theres no point in using it when the tits are already there

[Wedgylx]

Originally Posted by crazybeef5555

and yes i know what nolva is for, but theres no point in using it when the tits are already there

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/search.php?

[crazybeef5555]

anyways, pease stop taking ph's and get the real thing, less sides with much more results.

[Wedgylx]

Originally Posted by Renton405

STarting off at 40mg, for first half of month, then down to 20mg during the end... and then 3 capules of 6oxo at nightime with food...

sounds solid to me. Out of curiosity, why did you elect to use both?

[Renton405]

Originally Posted by crazybeef5555

kinda funny this "kid" benches more than you. Not that bench is that impotant, but i still can, and im not fat either.

Im sure your not... your just an idiot..

[crazybeef5555]

wedgy, you trying to say nolva is not used to prevent gyno? This is news to me, and the rest of earth.

[Wedgylx]

Originally Posted by crazybeef5555

wedgy, you trying to say nolva is not used to prevent gyno? This is news to me, and the rest of earth.

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying I dont think you really know what gyno is, or what nolva does.

[crazybeef5555]

I wouldn't want to confuse with such things by explaining its mechanism of action, but its an anti estrogen, and gyno is puffiness in the nipple area. Now do you know what a thing called dbol does? or what a thing called testosterone cypionate does?

HINT: They do a lot more than any ph!

[crazybeef5555]

and the only valid argument for prohormones, the legallity issue, is already gone, as they are illegal, and you are an obvious supporter of using illegal pct methods.

[crazybeef5555]

What i was saying before, as a joke, before i tried to help the dude and was shut down, was that who cares about puffy nipples, when ur already gonna be embarassed to take your shirt off in public anyway? The insult was directed at what i thought at the time was an idiot jumping into a cycle without adequate pct, which happens all too often. For every one person on this board who uses aas/ph's without pct theres 5 in my gym, and hearing about ti angers me.

[crazybeef5555]

and im sorry to insult you wedgy, if myself or anyone i know ever has any question on anything related to pct i will have them pm you, so you can help them with your magical search button and extensive wealth of knowledge on the subject.

[Wedgylx]

Originally Posted by crazybeef5555

I wouldn't want to confuse with such things by explaining its mechanism of action, but its an anti estrogen, and gyno is puffiness in the nipple area. Now do you know what a thing called dbol does? or what a thing called testosterone cypionate does?

HINT: They do a lot more than any ph!

Actually just puffiness is probably fat in the chest area. Gyno is usually a lump in or behind the nipple area. It also has other problems tied with it THAT MAY NOT BE VISABLE. With 1-T its much less of a worry but its not at all uncommon for people to seem fine and start lactating. You take PCT after every cycle, to recommend otherwise is not only stupid, but irresponsible.

I'm not at all against the use of AAS but obviously this isnt the route he wants to take.

[crazybeef5555]

LMFAO, i take that back, it seems you spend all of your time on this website posting in supplements and the ph section. Probably 2 of the least important sections on the sight. I will come to you if i need to know anything about any type of andros or creatine. You can come to me if you need to learn how to lift and eat properly.