Gyno? I would say so

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  1. Gyno? I would say so


    So am I off topic here? I am posting before and after pics. It's just that I have progressed in the wrong direction. I guess the reason I am doing this is because I do not plan on remaining where I am at. It just goes to show what a little "slacking" can do.
    The first pic was taken Dec 07 after a 6 week Epistane cycle. Weight around 196. The second pic is recent, July 10. Weight around 180.
    I think boobies look better on females. But that's just me.
    I have some research and sweating to do. Hopefully a few months from now I can proudly post a great update pic.
    If you all think this post is in the wrong place, let me know.
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  2. Ouch bro,What other compounds did you run? Was that from epi?

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by JoHNnyNuTZ View Post
    Ouch bro,What other compounds did you run? Was that from epi?
    Well, can't really blame the Epi for this. I had some gyno from M1t, 1-ad, and trenbolone use between 2003 and 2005. I had no idea what I was doing at the time, so I did NO post cycle. Ouch!
    A few years later (2007) I did a 6 week Epi cycle with a proper post cycle, SERM and all. Great results! Strength, weight gain, gyno was gone.
    About 6-9 months gyno was slowly returning. I decided to do another cycle sometime in the summer of 09. This time I did Epi stacked with Propadrol, 6 week cycle with a proper post cycle. Once again, great results, weight, strength, no more gyno.
    Here I am again with the gyno coming back I think worse than it's ever been.
    Frustrating!

  4. Did you ever run Nolvadex for PCT?

  5. what was ur pct
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  6. Try Letro

    Google "Letro, Gyno".. the first few hits are very informative and one individual has had an issue similar to yours.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Texan281 View Post
    Did you ever run Nolvadex for PCT?
    No, never tried Nolvadex.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by schwellington View Post
    what was ur pct
    My PCT for my 2007 cycle was Torem, AI Post Cycle Support, AX Hyperdrol X2, AX MassFX, AX Retain2, USPlabs Powerfull.
    Here's my log.
    Epistane, 6 week cycle

    My PCT for my 2009 cycle was Torem, AI Post Cycle Support, Formex, and I believe Diesel Test. I did not log this cycle so I can't remember exactly.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by cowboy007 View Post
    Try Letro

    Google "Letro, Gyno".. the first few hits are very informative and one individual has had an issue similar to yours.
    Yeah, I've been reading about Letro and it seems to be good stuff. I almost ordered some the other day but I was digging through my box of supps and found a bottle and a half of Formex. I will give this a try for a week or so and see if I feel and difference.
    I realize Formex is not as strong or as known for getting rid of gyno but I have it here and now. What do you think?

  10. letro helps with the lump but not the fat tissue, i have the same problem though mines from a teenager, had a flare up with lumps some time ago after tren epi and letro got rid of the lumps after a month at 2.5mg a day
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  11. Well, I hate to be a killjoy but that is raging Gyno mate. Obviously worse on the one side but still red and swollen on the other. Even on your before pics you can see a touch of gyno there, so it loos like the epi and such reduced it but its flared back up. There was me thinking torem was a better option than Nolvadex. Did you have gyno issues as a teen?

    I myself had an op back in march on the left hand side, god damn I nearly did an epi stack in may! I decided against it. I begining to think that these methylated legal versions of steriods change properties somewhat of the drug and are more prone to causing sides such as these. I read an interesing article on Epistane and its parent steroid. One guy was saying when you change it to a methylated compound you actually have no idea of the new monster created, it may loose certain properties, gain certain properties ect..... Incidently mine was caused by Superdrol, with insufficient PCT, although it was the PCT reccomended......

  12. thats pretty big i think only surgery can help
    ~ IRON LIVERô________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]

  13. Quote Originally Posted by giantbrandon View Post
    letro helps with the lump but not the fat tissue, i have the same problem though mines from a teenager, had a flare up with lumps some time ago after tren epi and letro got rid of the lumps after a month at 2.5mg a day
    I'm leaning more and more towards Letro.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkItZoId View Post
    Well, I hate to be a killjoy but that is raging Gyno mate. Obviously worse on the one side but still red and swollen on the other. Even on your before pics you can see a touch of gyno there, so it loos like the epi and such reduced it but its flared back up. There was me thinking torem was a better option than Nolvadex. Did you have gyno issues as a teen?

    I myself had an op back in march on the left hand side, god damn I nearly did an epi stack in may! I decided against it. I begining to think that these methylated legal versions of steriods change properties somewhat of the drug and are more prone to causing sides such as these. I read an interesing article on Epistane and its parent steroid. One guy was saying when you change it to a methylated compound you actually have no idea of the new monster created, it may loose certain properties, gain certain properties ect..... Incidently mine was caused by Superdrol, with insufficient PCT, although it was the PCT reccomended......
    I did have some gyno as a teen.
    And yeah, hopefully we don't all find out one day that the gains we got from Epistane were all outweighed by the damage it did.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    thats pretty big i think only surgery can help
    I've been thinking about getting surgery. Before that though, i gotta try Letro, even though I'm thinking Letro might just be a band aid.

  14. Like I said before, I'm giving Formex a try. I'll find out soon enough if I'm just wasting my time. If nothing else, maybe someone will find this feedback useful.
    Today is my fourth day taking Formex at 50mg (two pills) a day.
    The recommended dose on the bottle is 50-100mg (two - four pills) a day. I'm wondering if I should just go up to 100mg as this might give me faster/better results.

    I know it's only the fourth day but so far it does seem to be taking some of the tenderness away. It could be psychological.
    I will post another pic in the next day or so to compare to the last.

    Just a side note. I also started taking creatine and glutamine in the last few days. I know that these things should have absolutely no impact on my gyno but I may gain some water weight which may change the appearance of my gyno slightly. Or maybe not.

  15. i would also try leaning out a little more and see how it looks then

  16. Quote Originally Posted by giantbrandon View Post
    i would also try leaning out a little more and see how it looks then
    To be fair to the lad he is already lean enough to know thats bad gyno(no offence to the op). Letro is not worth a **** in my opinion in this case. It may reduce it a little but it will come back for another pop. Letro, nolva, colmid=side effects, side effects and ect. yeah try it may be or even better still see what the doc has to say.

  17. leaning out is for quesgtionable GYNO, this dude has gyno.
    ~ IRON LIVERô________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]

  18. Quote Originally Posted by 2skinny View Post
    Like I said before, I'm giving Formex a try. I'll find out soon enough if I'm just wasting my time. If nothing else, maybe someone will find this feedback useful.
    Today is my fourth day taking Formex at 50mg (two pills) a day.
    The recommended dose on the bottle is 50-100mg (two - four pills) a day. I'm wondering if I should just go up to 100mg as this might give me faster/better results.

    I know it's only the fourth day but so far it does seem to be taking some of the tenderness away. It could be psychological.
    I will post another pic in the next day or so to compare to the last.

    Just a side note. I also started taking creatine and glutamine in the last few days. I know that these things should have absolutely no impact on my gyno but I may gain some water weight which may change the appearance of my gyno slightly. Or maybe not.
    Save the formex, save your cash and save your hormones mate, go see the doctor.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    leaning out is for quesgtionable GYNO, this dude has gyno.
    Agree.

  20. bro get a knife and cut that **** out!
    jk

    btu here is something interesting....... my right niple has a piercing... never had itchy nipples lump pain or anything on that side... only leaky prolactin btu no gyno or itch or anything
    ~ IRON LIVERô________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    bro get a knife and cut that **** out!
    jk

    btu here is something interesting....... my right niple has a piercing... never had itchy nipples lump pain or anything on that side... only leaky prolactin btu no gyno or itch or anything
    Haha, I had a piercing in the left hand side, but unfortunatly thats where I got the gyno...LOL horses for courses!

  22. Try and get your doctor to set you up with a surgeon that will do a "mass removal" because that is covered by most insurance companies. You don't look like you need the lypo suction that goes along with most gyno surgery anyway.

  23. mass removal>?

    further explain this
    ~ IRON LIVERô________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]

  24. Quote Originally Posted by SkItZoId View Post
    Save the formex, save your cash and save your hormones mate, go see the doctor.
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Try and get your doctor to set you up with a surgeon that will do a "mass removal" because that is covered by most insurance companies. You don't look like you need the lypo suction that goes along with most gyno surgery anyway.
    I don't have the option of seeing a doctor for this right now. But later this year I will definitely be able to go get it checked out and hopefully removed.
    And then I can abuse more prohormones! Ha Ha, j/k.

  25. hmmmmm so u can ask for mass removal of gland and the doctor may approve it?
    ~ IRON LIVERô________ *[It's just advice man, that's all it is! You can take or do whatever the FCUK you wanna do!]

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Jasen View Post
    hmmmmm so u can ask for mass removal of gland and the doctor may approve it?
    I have no idea. I will be finding all this stuff out for the first time myself. And when I do find it out, I will definitely inform you all. But this most likely will not be till Oct. Sorry.
    So for now, on with the experimenting.

  27. sincerely good luck bro... i hope you find an option that works out for ya.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by HumpTheCook View Post
    sincerely good luck bro... i hope you find an option that works out for ya.
    x2.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  29. Quote Originally Posted by SkItZoId View Post
    To be fair to the lad he is already lean enough to know thats bad gyno(no offence to the op). Letro is not worth a **** in my opinion in this case. It may reduce it a little but it will come back for another pop. Letro, nolva, colmid=side effects, side effects and ect. yeah try it may be or even better still see what the doc has to say.
    letro only works for lump not beast tissue

  30. Quote Originally Posted by BigBlackGuy View Post
    Try and get your doctor to set you up with a surgeon that will do a "mass removal" because that is covered by most insurance companies. You don't look like you need the lypo suction that goes along with most gyno surgery anyway.
    Sorry but he obviously has a load of breast tissue there and will defo need lipo! The mass lump is prob only half of the growth you can see on the right, the rest is defo breast tissue. I bet when he grabs it it feels like a tit.

    I say it how one of the lads should say it(with a genuine concern toward the op and not wanting to offend him)

    The right hand side is like a hanging basket and the left side will prob do everything it can to catch up. His only option really is surgery and he would be wise to avoid steroids and harsh compunds(including letro) for the rest of his life.
  

  
 

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