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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer657 View Post
    Thanks. That really helps
    And I'm 5'7 which is short 2 inches short of the average. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    On another hand at least I don't have a Jew Fro so
    LOL, how many standard deviations do those two inches take you away from the median? And don't limit that to just the bodybuilding world

    No worries, I wasn't trying to be a d*ck, just making an objectively valid and emotionally neutral comment. My subjective opinion, however, is that you should have easily made 3x the progress (especially considering your height), as an extra 10lb of mass on you would look like a hell of a lot more than and extra 10lb of mass would on me at 6'1". The ridiculously rapid visible changes you can make to your physique are something that I'm honestly jealous of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vadox6466 View Post
    LOL, how many standard deviations do those two inches take you away from the median? And don't limit that to just the bodybuilding world

    No worries, I wasn't trying to be a d*ck, just making an objectively valid and emotionally neutral comment. My subjective opinion, however, is that you should have easily made 3x the progress (especially considering your height), as an extra 10lb of mass on you would look like a hell of a lot more than and extra 10lb of mass would on me at 6'1". The ridiculously rapid visible changes you can make to your physique are something that I'm honestly jealous of.
    Well thank you. The only problem with that is that I'm fighting genetics. I worked out for two years straight and wasn't much bigger than this. But on another hand, I out lift most people weighing under 180 lbs on the basketball team. My muscles get a lot stronger, but it is a bitch to get them bigger. I've been considering switching to a 4 set plan for ectomorphs but I tried it and I just don't feel as well worked out after words. I like working till failure
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    I am an ecto too, but i am finally learning to eat, and eat enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer657 View Post
    Well thank you. The only problem with that is that I'm fighting genetics. I worked out for two years straight and wasn't much bigger than this. But on another hand, I out lift most people weighing under 180 lbs on the basketball team. My muscles get a lot stronger, but it is a bitch to get them bigger. I've been considering switching to a 4 set plan for ectomorphs but I tried it and I just don't feel as well worked out after words. I like working till failure
    Ha! I'm in the same boat as you (or I was anyways)! I'm in the Air Force (heavy aircraft crew chief), and ALMOST 5'6" and couldn't grow muscle size for the life of me, but I was pretty strong (compared to my fellow crew chiefs anywho). Then I turned 24. And, life hit me! Trust me, things will change! When I was deployed, I was taking in probably about 4000 calories a day (guestimating-probably more) just to maintain my 135 lbs (at the time). But I couldn't gain any weight. I was also 10% BF. Now, I'm struggling to get back down to ~11% - ~12% BF from my 13.5%. Gaining size now though! Tradeoffs suck! Good luck man!
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    Haha im in the middle at 5 9 puttin on 35 pounds since last feb feels pretty nice, I wont lie. and dude if your 19 hit up some of the goodies, get some T boosters and hit that creatine, get it in ethyl ester I heard its the best, some of the pills just are crap some are great. get alot of food in you. I mean alot. as much as you can. its gona hurt, and your gona feel sick alot.... just eat. and eat. it takes an hour to an hour and a half to digest a normal sized meal like 600-1k cals, so eat every 2 hours, and eat healthy. youll put on fat and then have room for muscle, and just keep eating. dont be afraid to get fat. look at yourself. no offence but genetically your realy skinny. that just means your gona be able to loose any weight again REAL easy. so try to get some fat on you, it will help you gain muscle, then when your ready cut back down and your genetics will do you well. hit up double shakes a day, thats what I do when I bulk.

    finally make sure your getting your vitamins, and if you drink alot of milk/calcium look into zma or a zinc supp. zinc has been used for thousands of years lol. I know how you feel wen it comes to lifts, its probably hard to go heavy because of wrists elbows and stuff right? I know it killed me when I started lifing. just find what you can push hard without pain and hit it, over and over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryLiftin View Post
    Haha im in the middle at 5 9 puttin on 35 pounds since last feb feels pretty nice, I wont lie. and dude if your 19 hit up some of the goodies, get some T boosters and hit that creatine, get it in ethyl ester I heard its the best, some of the pills just are crap some are great. get alot of food in you. I mean alot. as much as you can. its gona hurt, and your gona feel sick alot.... just eat. and eat. it takes an hour to an hour and a half to digest a normal sized meal like 600-1k cals, so eat every 2 hours, and eat healthy. youll put on fat and then have room for muscle, and just keep eating. dont be afraid to get fat. look at yourself. no offence but genetically your realy skinny. that just means your gona be able to loose any weight again REAL easy. so try to get some fat on you, it will help you gain muscle, then when your ready cut back down and your genetics will do you well. hit up double shakes a day, thats what I do when I bulk.

    finally make sure your getting your vitamins, and if you drink alot of milk/calcium look into zma or a zinc supp. zinc has been used for thousands of years lol. I know how you feel wen it comes to lifts, its probably hard to go heavy because of wrists elbows and stuff right? I know it killed me when I started lifing. just find what you can push hard without pain and hit it, over and over.
    Thanks for the tips. I'm staying away from t-boosters. I did a little fad with Cell-Tech Hardcore Creatine and liked it a while ago. I'm currently running a 2 month run of bulking and using Jack3d to push it to the next level.

    But on another hand, I need to cut. And god damn I was so close but ate like **** on spring break. Little protein and useless calories and no lifting.

    It'll just be more damn work. I'll post some pics though.

    Any recommendations additional cutting. I'll be doing HITT everyday. Maybe even twice a day. I"m just looking for other stuff to add.
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    Update:
    7/10/2011

    7/17/2011 (third day of Meltdown):




    All pics are after cardio, sauna, and shower so no pump just a flex.
    I've changed my routine. I just got done doing 4 weeks of MMA training 4 hours a day, 5 days a week (little to no lifting). Basically, I did this to give my body a break.

    For about three weeks I've been basing my days off of compound movements so one day is chest, tri's and shoulders, another is back and bi's and another is legs and lower back.

    As far as supplements, none but Whey protein shakes. I just started VPX Meltdown two days ago. Currently on one pill and I hate fat burners. They are all bullsh*t... but this one is actually working. The only reason I tried it is because I friend I trust lost 1.5% BF on it while doing a lean bulk.... So yea.. Can't hurt.

    If you guys see anywhere I need to work on, let me know. I know I need to work on my legs and shoulders (always a hard spot for me). Also, BF% estimate?
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    I did great but stopped VPX for two weeks and only worked out twice a week from working and partying.

    Time to kick ass this week and start meltdown again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer657 View Post
    I'm staying away from t-boosters.
    Why?
    Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free.
    -Jim Morrison
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    you need ALOT more calories. sat 3500cals ed and aim for 200-250grams of proteen NOT just 100. I dont even eat eat and I get to 250-300g EVERYDAY so no excuses.
    get some whey protein tak in 3 shakes at around 50g each so there alone is 150g of protein then ad in another 100g from food ATLEAST .
    also google: DC Trainning . and read the blog of that guy. its a decent workout setup. but i go a bit mor reps 6-8 reps per set and i go for liek 45min not just 25. but its still close to the same kind of workout and worked well.
    also DONOT WORKOUT EVERYDAY 3-4 days a week.
    i highly rec EVERY OTHER DAY. and dotn hit the same part mor ethen 2 times a week , just onces per week seems to work for me.
    for supps ASGT from LG is a good preworkotu along with N2KTS also. and i also rec Postal from LG.
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    Idk I've always looked at then as dangerous

    And blergs that is interesting set of opinions there. I am however a fan of dc training.
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