140 to 155 to 175 SOLID
- 11-18-2009, 02:30 PM
140 to 155 to 175 SOLID
ok so i started when i was 18 at about 140 and yea i know every gets all pissy on this fourm about young guys but whatever i have done my research and homework (also dad was all state and mom runs 26.2's). i have never used any sort of anabolic until now, im about to start a cycle of "RAW" (the new 5-deca-zol) and tren hopeing to go from 160 (which is what im at now) to a solid 175 and strong enough to push a house over lol (oh and im aBOUT TO TURN 21 NOW. i will post my review and update it in a different section obviously
- the pics go at 140 to 155 and i will post 175 when i get there
- 11-18-2009, 04:03 PM
- 11-18-2009, 04:16 PM
11-19-2009, 04:19 AM
11-19-2009, 04:32 AM
You're pretty light for your height, but I guess you BF is low.
Why did you chose those particular PHs? You look like a good candidate for Superdrol if anything.
11-19-2009, 12:06 PM
i choose those because i want more stength so thats where i brought in the tren and i want a good 10 pounds of size so thats where the raw came in. but you know i could be way wrong by going this route. i would love to do a cycle with some superdrol but im having a hard time finding it. it seeming like everytime im about to put a order in, it gets sold out or takin off
11-19-2009, 05:37 PM
11-19-2009, 06:03 PM
11-19-2009, 09:54 PM
I wouldn't recommend SD as your first PH to run. I wouldn't even recommend Tren as a starter. Do you have access to SERMS?
11-20-2009, 02:45 AM
11-20-2009, 03:32 AM
You can probably get to 175-185 naturally and keep that ripped look. Lock in the diet and as long as your training is good you should be good to go. It's a marathon when it comes to muscle..not a race. Good job so far!
PM me with any order questions and concerns
11-20-2009, 04:16 PM
damn bro! looking ****ing shredded!
I really wouldn't run tren for a first cycle, it is an entirely different animal than the methyls like Hdrol, Mdrol, phera, etc. Also, i can't caution against stacking your first time more. That is a very bad idea. If/when you get side effects you will have no idea which compound caused them and consequently you will have no way to know how to address them. keep it simple your first time through man, you have a whole life to try everything else
I would stick to epi or Hdrol for a first cycle, maybe pheraplex for 4 weeks at 10-20mg if you're feeling ballsy. for your first cycle it almost doesn't matter what you use you will grow like a weed either way, no need to start with the hard/complicated stuff first. make sure you have SERMs for PCT also. feel free to PM me if you have any ?s too.
I also feel like "recomp" cycles are not as effective as choosing either a bulk or cut. there are too many compromises and so i'd recommend just trying to decide what your goal is and then just focus on that rather than trying to do 2 things at once.
11-22-2009, 10:13 PM
11-25-2009, 03:36 PM
11-25-2009, 08:35 PM
12-05-2009, 06:42 PM
12-06-2009, 08:32 PM
12-07-2009, 04:44 PM
honestly, your super ripped. Which isnt very impressive to me. A lot of guys look that ripped and they dont even work out. Are you sure you work out? You need to bulk up and Superdrol would help with that and it would also keep you pretty dry and shreaded.
you need more size. right now your looking like an anorexic ambercrombie model who wants to take Pro Hormones. You should wait until your 21.
12-07-2009, 09:58 PM
Lookin good but dont get in a hurry take your time be patient, work hard, eat right and your results will come
12-16-2009, 01:27 PM
For a first cycle, use Havoc" My first PH i ever ran was Havoc @ 10/20/30/40 (which is a fairly small and low dose cycle) but I still went from 180 to 200 AND leaned out.
If i were you and had access to a proper pct, I'd run Havoc @ 20/20-30/30/30/30-40.
12-16-2009, 08:19 PM
12-21-2009, 01:52 PM
12-21-2009, 02:53 PM
Wow you look at 160 what I want to look like at 175. You look awesome right now, at 175 your going to look great. Keep it up!
12-22-2009, 11:36 AM
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12-22-2009, 12:10 PM
12-22-2009, 02:21 PM
12-22-2009, 04:47 PM
12-25-2009, 03:33 AM
well heres a question for you guys, if i had to do a cycle, any cycle, what would u recommend? ive done alot of research and have concluded somesort of epi or hdrol, so something like spawn or havoc but im really liking all the things im finding out about tren products, all the 19 nor stuff. i mean if done right u get amazing results, but on the otherhand im being told its over kill and im a idoit for thinking about it... i want strength mostly, and i have done only one previous cycle so still a noob... any input?
12-25-2009, 11:44 PM
I have yet to use a 19-nor PH product, but I have read they either go great or terrible on cycle. It really depends with how sensitive you (from reading and cycle logs I have looked at), and I have read they are not the best cycle to PCT off of (libido wise).
As for Epi/Havoc or Hdrol... They are both going to keep you relatively lean, low sides, and fairly easy to recover from (generally). Neither for the majority amount on major mass or huge strength gains, but I do think that if you were going to go for a cycle that these are what you are wanting.
12-27-2009, 04:08 AM
12-28-2009, 09:10 AM
That 5 deca zol stuff you were looking into, is that the stuff by legal limit labs? If so, stay away. I had a bout with that before and not much good came of it. Yes I put on desecent size and yes I got stronger but at the cost of massive high blood pressure and severe headaches. I had to stop lifting all together and take almost a month off. I did maintain some of my size but I am not built like you and am much older.
12-28-2009, 09:32 AM
If you got this far without using then imagine how much more mass you can pack on if you push another 10-15 lbs on to your body naturally then use the steriod.
Ill bet you will appreciate it more and maintain it longer. But, of course, who am I to tell you how to achieve.
12-28-2009, 01:39 PM
12-28-2009, 07:18 PM
Just some tidbits to think about...
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12-28-2009, 09:07 PM
Hey there young pup, just tryin' to help you out a bit. That is a methylated product that filters through your liver. You should have your blood drawn and run some tests. That stuff will ruin your liver given the opportunity. Not to mention do a search you will find more harm than good from that product. I was young once too and didn't think about the future.i took it and f***ing loved it, felt like a beast in the gym, about 8 pounds dry gain and gnarly strength without a single side, before ppl like this guy ^ post something like this, knocking a sup, you have to rememeber everyones bodys are different, this being a perfect example. Not being harsh to you man ^ just am sick of ppl talking like everyones body and genetics works the same way
Look, I made great gains as well. I'm under 5'7" (not by much) and don't weigh much either but while on that stuff I benched 300. 315 to be exact. I'm not saying it doesn't work I'm just saying look out. Next time if you don't want to hear it don't ask.
I meant to ask, what does your PCT look like? At 21 (20) you could really mess up your endocrine as well. Just a thought.
12-28-2009, 10:24 PM
yea sorry bud i didnt mean to come off like that , u and the other guy make a good point and pct wise, which are you asking about, i know my next cycle im gettin ready to run im using clomid and something for my test levels, just keyholin it right now but almost ready
12-29-2009, 09:20 AM
No problem... I was 21 once too... (Like 100 years ago)... I have heard good and bad about Clomid. I have never used it personally. Did you read the official PCT thread? It has some really good information. I do remember something about Clomid causing emotion outbursts in men... "Cry like a little girl" I think that was the quote.
12-29-2009, 12:49 PM
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