16 weeks change - believe it or not
- 07-14-2009, 07:56 PM
- 07-14-2009, 08:02 PM
07-14-2009, 08:10 PM
The list is long...
I was out of shape for myself in the first pics so I had a LOT of muscle memory waiting to activate so I entered a transformation contest. Hurt my back so legs suffered so I won't win but still glad to be back. Still dieting for 1-3 more weeks, my bf% is not low enough for me.
Here are some other poses.
07-14-2009, 08:35 PM
That's crazy. I've been dieting like crazy and working out 5 days a week with all kinds of supps. I got nothing on you. What supps did you use?
07-14-2009, 08:38 PM
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07-14-2009, 10:14 PM
come on ppl....sups? hahahaha
goon looking great bro.
vascularity is awesome! can u PM me with the jist of ur "sup" regimen?
07-14-2009, 10:19 PM
07-14-2009, 10:21 PM
07-14-2009, 10:45 PM
I had some assistance but honestly most of the mass I gained from it I lost when I got the Swine flu or I would be bigger and more cut.
I have some ideas on dieting, simple but extreme fat burner combos and a lot lot lot of muscle memory...
Here is one pic from last year to compare...
So to clarify the first pic above was 16 weeks ago, the second is from now and this example is from last august to show how much I lost in the first pics.
07-14-2009, 10:59 PM
But I can share some thoughts I have.
Carb cut off then lower fat in your last meal so basically protein then take a single 200-250 and apply eviscerate.
You sleep off the heat, you don't kill you energy during the day, you have a FAST metabolism rather than a slow one overnight and your blood glucose goes down for AM cardio.
Safest, easiest and most effective way I have ever used dnp. Doing this just 3-4 times a week worked faster than anything else I have ever done
Also I took some diuretics that day, I was 199 before the pics and 207 today
07-15-2009, 01:14 AM
Great transformation. . . Supps or not it shows how dedicated you are to Bodybuilding keep u the good work. What are some of your measurements currently chest, waist, Arms , etc.
07-15-2009, 01:20 AM
07-15-2009, 01:40 AM
amazing results no matter how enhanced you were, and damn Getting swine flu eh? jesus bro glad your ok.....but it is quite obvious there was "some assistance" to me at least...either way no magic pills, so good job and dedication.
07-15-2009, 02:28 AM
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07-15-2009, 02:58 AM
INMHO..."supps" are really just the icing on the cake if in fact they were in the equation.
I would be way more interested in knowing his diet and routine(mainly b/c i dont use "supps" as a personal choice) he used. And just to give him some extra credit...i know a few guys in the gym that are into heavy supps...and would love to look like his before picture! (A little exaggerated but u get the point)
So i tip my hat to you good sir! I can learn a thing or two from you when it comes to shedding some serious fat seriously fast!
And yeah it if very apparent your muscle memory had a big influence on ur rapid development. It looks like u never got out of shape to begin with after u were done!
07-15-2009, 09:47 AM
07-15-2009, 10:59 AM
07-15-2009, 11:34 AM
07-15-2009, 01:16 PM
My body told me I need a break wow...
So tired, back hurts so bad I can barely walk and both rotators hurt.
Gotta figure out my next step but looks like I wont get to finish my cutting plan
07-17-2009, 01:50 AM
07-17-2009, 09:23 AM
Guys I honestly don't know everything I did. I plan and change by feel and what in injuries and body tell me and don't write it down.
I don't like discussing cycles on this board either it is too open.
I can tell you a few things:
DC training is great for adding muscle but the minute you try to make it lean gins it becomes hard. I would only use it as a kick start with an oral like superdrol ect.
Cardio REALLY is over rated if your diet is on.
t3 can change your entire metabolism for some people, I am a super responder to it and small doses allow me to eat much much more (giant endo here)
Eviscerate is great stuff for certain times like before AM cardio and before bed if you take a night time fat burner (dnp in a reduced caloric state ie tapered card and fats is great). I don't really like it before training unless you plan on doing cardio after, the body just simply can't use fats as fuels in for anaerobic activity.
If you want to keep it fool proof the ultimate diet 2.0 is very much worth it.
In a lowered carb state plcar is a life saver.
Forget what movements you are supposed to do... what ones do you feel the mind muscle connection in (took me friggin 10 years to figure this out).
07-17-2009, 11:29 AM
First of all I will say great job! You look awesome! Make sure you get some rest and heal yourself up.
GoHardorGoHome is on the right track here! "Supps" are great and can work wonders but they are only part of the process. Without the other components it is like a fat person taking fat burners and not working out or changing their diet. No results!
The bottom line, is that if you really want to know more about what cycles to take there are plenty of places to look. I will say that if you have not done it before then you really need to make sure that you have maxed out your natural potential first. Honestly, a good diet with the right amount of calories and a good workout plan/ethic can take you much further than you think. If you are already there and ready for your first round of real "Supps" then remember this one fact. Keep it simple! It has been highly recommended that a first timer take some form of test and that is it! Along with a good pct mind you. Other than that, I will say no more. Do your research before you do anything! And remember it is also illegal! You are on your own!
Now back to the main idea of this thread. Muscle memory def helped. Way to go man. I am hoping mine comes back that quick!
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