16 weeks change - believe it or not

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by jay21 View Post
    i wish primobolan was cheaper....... and masteron...... i saw some test-E priced very fairly. but ppl seem to always dose the prices high on winstrol/primo/materon/eq around my city-ish
    You dont need primo or masteron period... masteron is only useful for people who really know their body and notice SMALL changes in hardness and dryness sub 10% bf. Primo is a waste under 500mg for anything under 12 weeks and the same results can be had from eq.

    I dont want to turn this into gear advice, that is not why I made this thread... I will talk diet and supps all you guys want because honestly that is what matters more.


  2. i know your trying to get rid of the PH talk but my first run of SD on day 7 my blood pressure something in my head popped (friend said brain aneurism(sp?)) but anytime i would try to jog(within 15 feet of starting), sex, lift... ANYTHING id have this unbearable pain go up my kneck into my lower brain area i guess. i just cringed and i felt like i was dieing. stopped all physical activity for like a month and got better. worst experience of my life.
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  3. half of me just wants to inject, and the other half is too scared damn needles...
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  4. Giving a snap shot, what was your dieting like, basic consistencies?

    Also, I have not seen where you mentioned the amount of bf that you dropped and the amount of LBM that you picked up, or over-all weight?
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  5. ^ bump, also routine (just a basic split)? cardio?

  6. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    Giving a snap shot, what was your dieting like, basic consistencies?

    Also, I have not seen where you mentioned the amount of bf that you dropped and the amount of LBM that you picked up, or over-all weight?
    Here is the silly part... Weight in first pics, 196, weight in last pics 199!

    I am currently holding 204-205, I water depleted there.

    First 4-5 weeks I did DC. Added tons of weight, got up to 217. Dropped my oral of choice and began pulling calories back while still doing dc. Dropped down to a solid 213 THEN I GOT SICK.

    For 2 weeks I could not lift or eat or move from bed - dropped down to 206 then I said F' IT!! I had to cut cause being big was not in the cards so I really just cut for 4-5 weeks so 90% of my results happened over these 405 weeks.

    Did 2 weeks of keto, never got into ketosis so I said f it and did ultimate diet 2.0. Shoulder started hurting so I am off of it and doing a traditional split and diet...

    So there is the long story, short tips:

    Cardio was am, never more than 3 times a week Eviscerate helps if you get your carbs low the night before.

    I posted my DNP idea earlier, it really helps and you can be very safe in your dosing.

    I generally diet around 2400-2500 cals, I dieted this time closer to 2600-2700 but an cutting back to my normal 2400 now and taking out cardio.

    I know my thoughts are all over the place but so is my training and diet.

  7. Sometimes so much goes on in my head about training and diet that I forget what I did and why. I focuss so much on my next move that I forget what I did in the recent past

  8. Glad the eviscerate is working well for you.

    You did a good job in 16 weeks. I'm locking diet in and going for contest shape myself. Should be a fun ride, I'm using the T3 and E as well.

  9. do u have a link for the ultimate diet 2.0? google just tried to sell me books
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  10. ^bump
    eviscerate & ultimate diet 2.0...never heard of that combo

    what is your traditional split and only cardio 3 days a week in the a.m., what type of cardio?

    what was your oral of choice? did you do a PCT?

    DNP? can you please refresh my memory

  11. dnp is supposiably someting that increases body temp.

  12. Dintrophenol

    Not very easy to get and rightfully so - very controversial. Some say it is poison some say it cures cancer, obviously somewhere in the middle it true.

    Ups metabolism by up to 60% compared to low single digits for other fat burners.

  13. DNP can be dangerous and should never be used without serious research and diet in place. It can also hinder your strength and training and is one of the few things that if abused can kill you.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    DNP can be dangerous and should never be used without serious research and diet in place. It can also hinder your strength and training and is one of the few things that if abused can kill you.
    Which is why it is good that it is hard to get...

  15. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Dintrophenol

    Not very easy to get and rightfully so - very controversial. Some say it is poison some say it cures cancer, obviously somewhere in the middle it true.

    Ups metabolism by up to 60% compared to low single digits for other fat burners.
    60% WOW, r u serious??
    Ive read that Clen only increases 1-5%, same with ECA or ECY
  

  
 

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