16 weeks change - believe it or not
- 07-23-2009, 07:41 PM
- 07-23-2009, 07:55 PM
- 07-24-2009, 12:37 AM
When you are taking clen/t3 as well as test ....
Yes cardio is overrated..
07-24-2009, 02:15 AM
07-24-2009, 02:22 AM
well its not for everyone, and you can make great gains naturally, as in creatine, protein supplements and food.
07-24-2009, 02:32 AM
me in 16 weeks looked like his BEFORE pix...185 down to 150lbs but still aint dry
I really cant get that dry "naturally", I need the support.
07-24-2009, 02:34 AM
sometimes the quick way dude isnt the best way, if you dont have the diet and trainging down you will oose everything u gain on cycle.
good luck though, research unil you cant reaearch anymore, become almost a guru on trainging and diet.
steroids are the icing on the cake
07-24-2009, 04:28 AM
Yeah thats true...though I am gonna concentrate on diet and training, though the bulging belly and chest fat is my problem...
after reading for a couple of hours looks like im leaning towards Anavar to help burn the fat with minimal side effects
07-24-2009, 06:47 AM
07-24-2009, 08:34 AM
Var at a decent dose is FAR from sie effect free, just a warning, at a low dose its hard to notice but at a noticable dose its very potent on the prostate and hpta and even mood. Also make sure you know your source, it is very expensive and most are weak, expect to run 60mg ed min.
07-24-2009, 08:36 AM
07-24-2009, 08:36 AM
07-24-2009, 08:38 AM
There is a lot lot lot of WEAK var out there. Those that run a tru 80-100 rarely make it through the side effects. The HPTA shut down is worse than tren in many cases and the prostate issues are worse than anything else out there at those doses so most who run those doses have weak stuff BUT if they dont then they will most likely get side effects. The only reason to use it is if you have progesterone/prolactin issues and can't run tren.
07-25-2009, 04:27 AM
here is what I looke like at 150lbs which is still far from your "BEFORE pics especially on chest and belly area..
i was on a strict diet theres with a 6 day workout including boxing
I actually want to try Anavar to to incorporate on my diet and workout to burn the belly and chest fat which is very difficult for me....
btw did you get tan?
07-25-2009, 05:53 AM
07-25-2009, 01:06 PM
07-25-2009, 01:26 PM
Not at all! With the right ancills you can get very dry. Letro is king.
I was NOT on just dry compounds here...
07-25-2009, 01:27 PM
07-25-2009, 01:29 PM
I did a spray tan right before this just for the shoot, it looked HORRIBLE the next day but I do try to keep some color
07-25-2009, 01:29 PM
07-25-2009, 01:37 PM
07-26-2009, 01:00 AM
Superdrol... yumm. Cant make it past like 4 days no matter what. Blood pressure does me out so quick but id love to run it a few weeks :-/
CELTIC LABS REP
07-26-2009, 01:29 AM
07-26-2009, 10:31 AM
07-26-2009, 11:19 AM
Big deal will a few weeks on high blood pressure really kill you? It's not so bad I don't think, you only run short cycles.
07-26-2009, 11:54 AM
the only problem is I have A LOT of Furaguno (clone of Furazabol) so I can do a some-what good stack, I was thinking
Mdrol/Furaguno-3 weeks Mdrol-6 weeks Furaguno
07-26-2009, 08:20 PM
the m1t challenege who has got the balls 10 20 30 40 30 20 10 loll (no1 try this im being sarcastic)
07-26-2009, 08:49 PM
I have enough M1T to do it...if I had some old 4 ad to offset the lethargy I would use it for a month, but never more than 20mg a day.....its simply the lethargy that kills a guy.
07-26-2009, 09:44 PM
this may be a dumb question, but what causes the lethargy?
07-26-2009, 09:45 PM
being shutdown...decresed liver function...I dont know anymore.
07-26-2009, 09:50 PM
i dont mind it, i actually love the lethargic and backpump sides. im weird but i love this part of a cycle the most. i wish i had my hands on some M1T my friend aint gonna sell his
07-26-2009, 09:51 PM
i belive its also due to high lvls of test/ recovery. i guess its all combined. like seal said. dosent dhea help it i dont know i never bothered with fixing that part like i said i love some of the sides
07-26-2009, 09:54 PM
07-26-2009, 10:23 PM
lethargy is no friend of mine..but Ive seen a guy recommend DHEA for it, but then wouldn't 7 Keto be needed also, well not needed but a good addition?
07-26-2009, 10:33 PM
How did this become a discussion of a now illegal and toxic PH whcih I have never even used haha...
not mad just funny and odd
07-26-2009, 10:41 PM
wow SD killed me in 7 days. I had massive anxiety attacks and 600 alt.
07-26-2009, 11:03 PM
07-26-2009, 11:15 PM
Most PH's are legal because pharma companies decided they were too dangerous or not useful enough to be developed into prescription drugs.
Real gear is almost always either safer or more effective. The risk/benefit ratio for most PH are not worth it. Either you take MORE health risks to get the effects or you take less and they are much weaker. Personally I would rather take something with decades of research than something that has never been studied long term.
07-26-2009, 11:18 PM
OT is way more expensive the halodrol (ph) yet they are quiet similar but not exact but u are right, dbol can be found cheap......cheap than some creatines
07-26-2009, 11:20 PM
i wish primobolan was cheaper....... and masteron...... i saw some test-E priced very fairly. but ppl seem to always dose the prices high on winstrol/primo/materon/eq around my city-ish
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