16 weeks change - believe it or not

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  1. Guys I honestly don't know everything I did. I plan and change by feel and what in injuries and body tell me and don't write it down.

    I don't like discussing cycles on this board either it is too open.

    I can tell you a few things:

    DC training is great for adding muscle but the minute you try to make it lean gins it becomes hard. I would only use it as a kick start with an oral like superdrol ect.

    Cardio REALLY is over rated if your diet is on.

    t3 can change your entire metabolism for some people, I am a super responder to it and small doses allow me to eat much much more (giant endo here)

    Eviscerate is great stuff for certain times like before AM cardio and before bed if you take a night time fat burner (dnp in a reduced caloric state ie tapered card and fats is great). I don't really like it before training unless you plan on doing cardio after, the body just simply can't use fats as fuels in for anaerobic activity.

    If you want to keep it fool proof the ultimate diet 2.0 is very much worth it.

    In a lowered carb state plcar is a life saver.

    Forget what movements you are supposed to do... what ones do you feel the mind muscle connection in (took me friggin 10 years to figure this out).


  2. First of all I will say great job! You look awesome! Make sure you get some rest and heal yourself up.

    GoHardorGoHome is on the right track here! "Supps" are great and can work wonders but they are only part of the process. Without the other components it is like a fat person taking fat burners and not working out or changing their diet. No results!

    The bottom line, is that if you really want to know more about what cycles to take there are plenty of places to look. I will say that if you have not done it before then you really need to make sure that you have maxed out your natural potential first. Honestly, a good diet with the right amount of calories and a good workout plan/ethic can take you much further than you think. If you are already there and ready for your first round of real "Supps" then remember this one fact. Keep it simple! It has been highly recommended that a first timer take some form of test and that is it! Along with a good pct mind you. Other than that, I will say no more. Do your research before you do anything! And remember it is also illegal! You are on your own!

    Now back to the main idea of this thread. Muscle memory def helped. Way to go man. I am hoping mine comes back that quick!
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  3. I won my contest!

    Hope there are some prizes, still waiting to see.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Hard2Gain View Post
    First of all I will say great job! You look awesome! Make sure you get some rest and heal yourself up.

    GoHardorGoHome is on the right track here! "Supps" are great and can work wonders but they are only part of the process. Without the other components it is like a fat person taking fat burners and not working out or changing their diet. No results!

    The bottom line, is that if you really want to know more about what cycles to take there are plenty of places to look. I will say that if you have not done it before then you really need to make sure that you have maxed out your natural potential first. Honestly, a good diet with the right amount of calories and a good workout plan/ethic can take you much further than you think. If you are already there and ready for your first round of real "Supps" then remember this one fact. Keep it simple! It has been highly recommended that a first timer take some form of test and that is it! Along with a good pct mind you. Other than that, I will say no more. Do your research before you do anything! And remember it is also illegal! You are on your own!

    Now back to the main idea of this thread. Muscle memory def helped. Way to go man. I am hoping mine comes back that quick!

    He's not a newb.

  5. damn i'm jealous. nicely done. hope i can have something like the post soon.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Davidlee View Post
    That's crazy. I've been dieting like crazy and working out 5 days a week with all kinds of supps. I got nothing on you. What supps did you use?
    He used the real ones.

  7. Good to see ya over here man !!!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I won my contest!

    Hope there are some prizes, still waiting to see.

    Congrats!

  9. daym nice results..

    i almost fell my seat when you said you was out of shape n the BEFORE pix hehehe

    I am still far from being close on you nefore pix but eyeing the same result

    hats off to you

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Zuplado View Post
    daym nice results..

    i almost fell my seat when you said you was out of shape n the BEFORE pix hehehe

    I am still far from being close on you nefore pix but eyeing the same result

    hats off to you
    get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.

  11. you said, "cardio is overrated if diet is in check". do you support this 100%? just curious

  12. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    you said, "cardio is overrated if diet is in check". do you support this 100%? just curious
    Yes I do - I barely do cardio. If you cant get to 10-12% without cardio then either you dont know how to diet or your metabolism is messed up or you are over 35-40 years old

    Anyway...

    2 horrible weeks in the gym

    Today did arms instead of legs (long story) - Did MASSIVE weight on strict tricept dips (dips with the belt but arms in and straight up so its just tri's - most people cant to bodyweight). On last set got bw+100 for 6 reps. Got 55's got 8 on last set of concentration curls then later was doing seated hammer curls and BAM slammed myself in the face! stopped my workout cold and eye is swelling shut haha...

    Was my only good workout of the week besides chest.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.
    Even diet and training right you need some muscle memory to do what i did in 14-16 weeks.

  14. ok, my diet is really on point right now and cardio is of course, a pain in the @ss, but good job on the arm WO man!

  15. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    ok, my diet is really on point right now and cardio is of course, a pain in the @ss, but good job on the arm WO man!
    I always try new diets man - macros and cal combos. It takes a while to learn.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Even diet and training right you need some muscle memory to do what i did in 14-16 weeks.
    no doubt man, you looked fine even before all of this, lol, You can certainly tell that you had a great base with alot of past training, sucks getting those injuries, I found at 26 they really started acting up, aches, creeks etc.etc.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I always try new diets man - macros and cal combos. It takes a while to learn.
    as I grow and get older, im realizing this every day

  18. When you are taking clen/t3 as well as test ....

    Yes cardio is overrated..
  19. Question


    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.
    down to a T??

    yes that is what I've been told...I will go back to my old strict diet and workout but I am still having double thoughts on going "enhanced"..have a concern about the side effects...

  20. well its not for everyone, and you can make great gains naturally, as in creatine, protein supplements and food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    well its not for everyone, and you can make great gains naturally, as in creatine, protein supplements and food.
    actually I want to try it that is why I am here maybe I can decide afterwards...I want to try it coz it will be quick like what he did in 16 weeks...and more effective..then from ther I will maintain it.

    me in 16 weeks looked like his BEFORE pix...185 down to 150lbs but still aint dry

    I really cant get that dry "naturally", I need the support.

  22. sometimes the quick way dude isnt the best way, if you dont have the diet and trainging down you will oose everything u gain on cycle.

    good luck though, research unil you cant reaearch anymore, become almost a guru on trainging and diet.
    steroids are the icing on the cake

  23. Yeah thats true...though I am gonna concentrate on diet and training, though the bulging belly and chest fat is my problem...

    after reading for a couple of hours looks like im leaning towards Anavar to help burn the fat with minimal side effects

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Zuplado View Post
    Yeah thats true...though I am gonna concentrate on diet and training, though the bulging belly and chest fat is my problem...

    after reading for a couple of hours looks like im leaning towards Anavar to help burn the fat with minimal side effects
    Anavar...
    http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php

  25. Var at a decent dose is FAR from sie effect free, just a warning, at a low dose its hard to notice but at a noticable dose its very potent on the prostate and hpta and even mood. Also make sure you know your source, it is very expensive and most are weak, expect to run 60mg ed min.
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