16 weeks change - believe it or not
07-15-2009 09:47 AM
Agreed. "Supps"+poor diet and/or poor routine=funny looking
Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme
07-15-2009 10:59 AM
WOW! Just search for other posts from justreading to see what the last few months have been like.
07-15-2009 11:34 AM
Its been hard man.
Originally Posted by youngandfree
I've had several major back injuries, a stressful breakup (cough...stalker) and the swine flu but I made it happen.
07-15-2009 01:16 PM
My body told me I need a break wow...
So tired, back hurts so bad I can barely walk and both rotators hurt.
Gotta figure out my next step but looks like I wont get to finish my cutting plan
07-17-2009 01:50 AM
PM me your cycle and supps plz
07-17-2009 09:23 AM
Guys I honestly don't know everything I did. I plan and change by feel and what in injuries and body tell me and don't write it down.
I don't like discussing cycles on this board either it is too open.
I can tell you a few things:
DC training is great for adding muscle but the minute you try to make it lean gins it becomes hard. I would only use it as a kick start with an oral like superdrol ect.
Cardio REALLY is over rated if your diet is on.
t3 can change your entire metabolism for some people, I am a super responder to it and small doses allow me to eat much much more (giant endo here)
Eviscerate is great stuff for certain times like before AM cardio and before bed if you take a night time fat burner (dnp in a reduced caloric state ie tapered card and fats is great). I don't really like it before training unless you plan on doing cardio after, the body just simply can't use fats as fuels in for anaerobic activity.
If you want to keep it fool proof the ultimate diet 2.0 is very much worth it.
In a lowered carb state plcar is a life saver.
Forget what movements you are supposed to do... what ones do you feel the mind muscle connection in (took me friggin 10 years to figure this out).
07-17-2009 11:29 AM
First of all I will say great job! You look awesome! Make sure you get some rest and heal yourself up.
GoHardorGoHome is on the right track here! "Supps" are great and can work wonders but they are only part of the process. Without the other components it is like a fat person taking fat burners and not working out or changing their diet. No results!
The bottom line, is that if you really want to know more about what cycles to take there are plenty of places to look. I will say that if you have not done it before then you really need to make sure that you have maxed out your natural potential first. Honestly, a good diet with the right amount of calories and a good workout plan/ethic can take you much further than you think. If you are already there and ready for your first round of real "Supps" then remember this one fact. Keep it simple! It has been highly recommended that a first timer take some form of test and that is it! Along with a good pct mind you. Other than that, I will say no more. Do your research before you do anything! And remember it is also illegal! You are on your own!
Now back to the main idea of this thread. Muscle memory def helped. Way to go man. I am hoping mine comes back that quick!
07-17-2009 12:00 PM
I won my contest!
Hope there are some prizes, still waiting to see.
07-17-2009 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by Hard2Gain
He's not a newb.
07-17-2009 12:45 PM
damn i'm jealous. nicely done. hope i can have something like the post soon.
07-17-2009 12:57 PM
He used the real ones.
Originally Posted by Davidlee
07-17-2009 01:02 PM
Good to see ya over here man !!!
07-17-2009 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by justreading
07-23-2009 06:25 AM
daym nice results..
i almost fell my seat when you said you was out of shape n the BEFORE pix hehehe
I am still far from being close on you nefore pix but eyeing the same result
hats off to you
07-23-2009 12:53 PM
get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.
Originally Posted by Zuplado
07-23-2009 06:01 PM
you said, "cardio is overrated if diet is in check". do you support this 100%? just curious
07-23-2009 06:18 PM
Yes I do - I barely do cardio. If you cant get to 10-12% without cardio then either you dont know how to diet or your metabolism is messed up or you are over 35-40 years old
Originally Posted by KgTomCat
2 horrible weeks in the gym
Today did arms instead of legs (long story) - Did MASSIVE weight on strict tricept dips (dips with the belt but arms in and straight up so its just tri's - most people cant to bodyweight). On last set got bw+100 for 6 reps. Got 55's got 8 on last set of concentration curls then later was doing seated hammer curls and BAM slammed myself in the face! stopped my workout cold and eye is swelling shut haha...
Was my only good workout of the week besides chest.
07-23-2009 06:19 PM
Even diet and training right you need some muscle memory to do what i did in 14-16 weeks.
Originally Posted by searl12
07-23-2009 06:32 PM
ok, my diet is really on point right now and cardio is of course, a pain in the @ss, but good job on the arm WO man!
07-23-2009 06:39 PM
I always try new diets man - macros and cal combos. It takes a while to learn.
Originally Posted by KgTomCat
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