16 weeks change - believe it or not

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Davidlee View Post
    That's crazy. I've been dieting like crazy and working out 5 days a week with all kinds of supps. I got nothing on you. What supps did you use?
    He used the real ones.


  2. Good to see ya over here man !!!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I won my contest!

    Hope there are some prizes, still waiting to see.

    Congrats!

  4. daym nice results..

    i almost fell my seat when you said you was out of shape n the BEFORE pix hehehe

    I am still far from being close on you nefore pix but eyeing the same result

    hats off to you

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Zuplado View Post
    daym nice results..

    i almost fell my seat when you said you was out of shape n the BEFORE pix hehehe

    I am still far from being close on you nefore pix but eyeing the same result

    hats off to you
    get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.

  6. you said, "cardio is overrated if diet is in check". do you support this 100%? just curious

  7. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    you said, "cardio is overrated if diet is in check". do you support this 100%? just curious
    Yes I do - I barely do cardio. If you cant get to 10-12% without cardio then either you dont know how to diet or your metabolism is messed up or you are over 35-40 years old

    Anyway...

    2 horrible weeks in the gym

    Today did arms instead of legs (long story) - Did MASSIVE weight on strict tricept dips (dips with the belt but arms in and straight up so its just tri's - most people cant to bodyweight). On last set got bw+100 for 6 reps. Got 55's got 8 on last set of concentration curls then later was doing seated hammer curls and BAM slammed myself in the face! stopped my workout cold and eye is swelling shut haha...

    Was my only good workout of the week besides chest.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.
    Even diet and training right you need some muscle memory to do what i did in 14-16 weeks.

  9. ok, my diet is really on point right now and cardio is of course, a pain in the @ss, but good job on the arm WO man!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    ok, my diet is really on point right now and cardio is of course, a pain in the @ss, but good job on the arm WO man!
    I always try new diets man - macros and cal combos. It takes a while to learn.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Even diet and training right you need some muscle memory to do what i did in 14-16 weeks.
    no doubt man, you looked fine even before all of this, lol, You can certainly tell that you had a great base with alot of past training, sucks getting those injuries, I found at 26 they really started acting up, aches, creeks etc.etc.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I always try new diets man - macros and cal combos. It takes a while to learn.
    as I grow and get older, im realizing this every day

  13. When you are taking clen/t3 as well as test ....

    Yes cardio is overrated..
  14. Question


    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    get your diet and training down to a T....then become "ENHANCED" and you can.
    down to a T??

    yes that is what I've been told...I will go back to my old strict diet and workout but I am still having double thoughts on going "enhanced"..have a concern about the side effects...

  15. well its not for everyone, and you can make great gains naturally, as in creatine, protein supplements and food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    well its not for everyone, and you can make great gains naturally, as in creatine, protein supplements and food.
    actually I want to try it that is why I am here maybe I can decide afterwards...I want to try it coz it will be quick like what he did in 16 weeks...and more effective..then from ther I will maintain it.

    me in 16 weeks looked like his BEFORE pix...185 down to 150lbs but still aint dry

    I really cant get that dry "naturally", I need the support.

  17. sometimes the quick way dude isnt the best way, if you dont have the diet and trainging down you will oose everything u gain on cycle.

    good luck though, research unil you cant reaearch anymore, become almost a guru on trainging and diet.
    steroids are the icing on the cake

  18. Yeah thats true...though I am gonna concentrate on diet and training, though the bulging belly and chest fat is my problem...

    after reading for a couple of hours looks like im leaning towards Anavar to help burn the fat with minimal side effects

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Zuplado View Post
    Yeah thats true...though I am gonna concentrate on diet and training, though the bulging belly and chest fat is my problem...

    after reading for a couple of hours looks like im leaning towards Anavar to help burn the fat with minimal side effects
    Anavar...
    http://www.steroid.com/Anavar.php

  20. Var at a decent dose is FAR from sie effect free, just a warning, at a low dose its hard to notice but at a noticable dose its very potent on the prostate and hpta and even mood. Also make sure you know your source, it is very expensive and most are weak, expect to run 60mg ed min.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Zuplado View Post
    actually I want to try it that is why I am here maybe I can decide afterwards...I want to try it coz it will be quick like what he did in 16 weeks...and more effective..then from ther I will maintain it.

    me in 16 weeks looked like his BEFORE pix...185 down to 150lbs but still aint dry

    I really cant get that dry "naturally", I need the support.
    I took diuretics and water cycled, juice wont make you dry either man so if you can't do it with water deprivation and some diuretics naturally then you cant do it on juiice either cause the gear has nothing to do with being dry and if anything makes it harder to get dry.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Var at a decent dose is FAR from sie effect free, just a warning, at a low dose its hard to notice but at a noticable dose its very potent on the prostate and hpta and even mood. Also make sure you know your source, it is very expensive and most are weak, expect to run 60mg ed min.
    Ive read that most are done at 80-120mg ed

  23. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    Ive read that most are done at 80-120mg ed
    Would not say most.

    There is a lot lot lot of WEAK var out there. Those that run a tru 80-100 rarely make it through the side effects. The HPTA shut down is worse than tren in many cases and the prostate issues are worse than anything else out there at those doses so most who run those doses have weak stuff BUT if they dont then they will most likely get side effects. The only reason to use it is if you have progesterone/prolactin issues and can't run tren.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I took diuretics and water cycled, juice wont make you dry either man so if you can't do it with water deprivation and some diuretics naturally then you cant do it on juiice either cause the gear has nothing to do with being dry and if anything makes it harder to get dry.
    sorry "dry" was the incorrect term...lean and cut i wud say

    here is what I looke like at 150lbs which is still far from your "BEFORE pics especially on chest and belly area..

    ://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/b12sr20ve/150lbs.jpg

    i was on a strict diet theres with a 6 day workout including boxing

    I actually want to try Anavar to to incorporate on my diet and workout to burn the belly and chest fat which is very difficult for me....

    btw did you get tan?

  25. great results!!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    I took diuretics and water cycled, juice wont make you dry either man so if you can't do it with water deprivation and some diuretics naturally then you cant do it on juiice either cause the gear has nothing to do with being dry and if anything makes it harder to get dry.
    wouldnt that depend on what compound your using?

  27. Not at all! With the right ancills you can get very dry. Letro is king.

    I was NOT on just dry compounds here...

  28. Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Not at all! With the right ancills you can get very dry. Letro is king.

    I was NOT on just dry compounds here...
    aahhh I see , Ive only used these ds,ph orals, there kind of boring to be honest.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Zuplado View Post
    sorry "dry" was the incorrect term...lean and cut i wud say

    here is what I looke like at 150lbs which is still far from your "BEFORE pics especially on chest and belly area..

    ://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/b12sr20ve/150lbs.jpg

    i was on a strict diet theres with a 6 day workout including boxing

    I actually want to try Anavar to to incorporate on my diet and workout to burn the belly and chest fat which is very difficult for me....

    btw did you get tan?
    Anavar has been shown to burn visceral fat which very few people have under 15% (don't quote that it might be a touch lower). So it will do very little for the sub-q chest and belly fat. At a high enough dose its androgenic properties will cause some fat loss also if you are naturally low in androgens then you might notice those effects as well.

    I did a spray tan right before this just for the shoot, it looked HORRIBLE the next day but I do try to keep some color

  30. Quote Originally Posted by searl12 View Post
    aahhh I see , Ive only used these ds,ph orals, there kind of boring to be honest.
    Superdrol is as strong as any aas out there - dont fool yourself. it is the strongest oral I have ever seen
  

  
 

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