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    WTF is wrong with my arms?


    Whats up guys.... OK here are stats and pics and questions!
    Stats: 5'7" 164 wake up weight... Just got my first 300 lb bench press!!!! 405 Squat 315 really clean... 225 repping dead lifts...

    Questions: My arms are 15 inches but they look really small or are my shoulders too big? Legs suck, I know this. I feel like i push my arms and legs harder then any other part and both are strong but they dont grow. Starting today, I changed up my leg sets to try something new.
    2nd question: Estimated body fat?


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    Oh i forgot!! 3 weeks until my ECA stack!!!!!!!
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    I think your arms are proportionate to the rest of your body IMO.
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    looks pretty normal man, as in nothing wrong. BTW Nice on the 300 bench
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    Thanks bro, it was a goal for a long time! Now the goal is to do it and not arch my back. What do you guys suggest to work on. and what about the body fat %
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    i'd just do compound exercises to work on overall mass, as far as guessing bodyfat in pictures, its really hard to tell, but i would guess around 13-14% maybe.
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    Tat, could you give me some examples? I started doing more supersets and i think its starting to pay off but im open to any advice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navyrigger View Post
    Tat, could you give me some examples? I started doing more supersets and i think its starting to pay off but im open to any advice
    look at a 5x5/GVT routine, i think you'll probably get the best results out of one of those.
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    you look pretty proportional to me as well -- I would guess 12-13% on the BF.
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    Sounds good.. I have come a long way from being 135LB but still a long way to go.. I just hope turning 30 doesnt hurt to bad!
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    Nothing looks wrong. Your just looking for that bicep peak.
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    Tat, i was looking at the 5x5. Should you just do one style of bench, row and squats or mix it up from week to week with incline, decline, front and rear squats ect...
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    I started my 5x5 log... The Riggers 5x5 log
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    ive been hitting my arms twice a week. I'm doing six sets at higher reps 12-15, hitting tricepts on monday after my chest workout and bicepts on tuesday with my back workout. Then on friday i have my scheduled arm day. My arm day i will stay in the 6-8 rep range. So far i am happy with the progress i have made. My arms are also my weakpoint.
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    Thats pretty much what i was doing and i did make progress. I just want that peak but they just get wide.
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    one could try occlusion training as well to see results.
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    15" arms is small.. You look big for 164 pounds though.. Just keep gaining weight and your arms will grow too.
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    i noticed ur limbs looked very long for someone whos 5"7, that might be what ur seeing. those arms look more like soeone whos 6 foot...longer arms=harder to look big (natural that is)
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    Call me an a-hole, but I'd like to see a video of you squatting 405.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Call me an a-hole, but I'd like to see a video of you squatting 405.
    I was getting ready to say something.

    I work my ass off,,,,,,,,I love squats, slow and low.

    I cant get near those numbers.

    I guess its just genetics.....or my old a s s............ or both lol
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    I was going to say if you want to grow.

    Do squats and deads.........good form and tempo

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    Irish,
    the 405 squat is not clean but almost 90 degree with legd spread pretty far. A full 90 is my goal.
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    Not really....If someone is really short a hard vascular 15" can look massive...A friend of mine competed as lightweight at 5'6 with a 15" shredded arm and it looked awesome...He looked really good and full @5'6@154lbs.

    NavyRigger the one thing you have on your side is that guys who are shorter have a easier time creating the illusion of being bigger...You have a really good base thus far...Don't worry about how much weight you are lifting, but How you lift it....When in the gym try to leave your ego at the door and lift for muscle hypertrophy and not to boost your ego...Makes a big difference
    for me...Anyways you have a good base thus far man...Keep at it.
    Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    15" arms is small.. You look big for 164 pounds though.. Just keep gaining weight and your arms will grow too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navyrigger View Post
    Irish,
    the 405 squat is not clean but almost 90 degree with legd spread pretty far. A full 90 is my goal.
    then dont say you hit 405 till you hit 405.

    not trying to rip you but those numbers are a bit high for someone at you weight and BF.
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    Maybe I should reiterate myself for you M16. 15" arms are small. I didnt say anything about how they can look if your 3'6 with 2% body fat. I said 15" arms are SMALL. 15 inches is 15 inches, no matter how you look at it. You may be 5'2 with a 3 inch **** and think that it's big because your only 5'2 but in the end, you still only have a 3 inch ****. Would a girl think that just because you are 5'2 your 3" **** feels big? No. She'd still think it's little. You may look good in a mirror and have striations come out of your ******* but 15" is 15" and when you compare yourself to someone who has 18-19-20" arms, you will feel small, regardless of how "RIPPED" you are and how "PRETTY" they look. So again, continue to gain muscle and keep up the hard work and you will begin to feel bigger and better about your arms.


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    Not really....If someone is really short a hard vascular 15" can look massive...A friend of mine competed as lightweight at 5'6 with a 15" shredded arm and it looked awesome...He looked really good and full @5'6@154lbs.

    NavyRigger the one thing you have on your side is that guys who are shorter have a easier time creating the illusion of being bigger...You have a really good base thus far...Don't worry about how much weight you are lifting, but How you lift it....When in the gym try to leave your ego at the door and lift for muscle hypertrophy and not to boost your ego...Makes a big difference
    for me...Anyways you have a good base thus far man...Keep at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    Maybe I should reiterate myself for you M16. 15" arms are small. I didnt say anything about how they can look if your 3'6 with 2% body fat. I said 15" arms are SMALL. 15 inches is 15 inches, no matter how you look at it. You may be 5'2 with a 3 inch **** and think that it's big because your only 5'2 but in the end, you still only have a 3 inch ****. Would a girl think that just because you are 5'2 your 3" **** feels big? No. She'd still think it's little. You may look good in a mirror and have striations come out of your ******* but 15" is 15" and when you compare yourself to someone who has 18-19-20" arms, you will feel small, regardless of how "RIPPED" you are and how "PRETTY" they look. So again, continue to gain muscle and keep up the hard work and you will begin to feel bigger and better about your arms.
    I dont quite understand what youre saying here.... youre comparing penis sizes with arms i think. the difference is that u dont f**k anything with your arms. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangutan View Post
    I dont quite understand what youre saying here.... youre comparing penis sizes with arms i think. the difference is that u dont f**k anything with your arms. lol
    hahaha...oh man.
    everyone chill and put the test. away.

    All M16 was saying is the kid/guy shouldnt be stressed over the size of the arms yet just get them to be looking good and where he wants to be.

    Bodybuilding IS an optical illusion game, i dont think anyone has ever walked and stage and yelled..."i got the biggest arms here..." and the judges hand him the award. Its all about portions and shape. The numbers are all in people heads. I have had people guess mine where 18"~ and last i remember i was at 16 3/4".

    to the OP. I would focus on movement, because(no offense here) if you are moving that weight you listed, you should be looking a bit bigger or more lean at least. NOT saying its impossible, but if you were to adjust training, youd be able to build more of the "look"
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    Exactly my point...Thank You. I'll take a hard vascular 16" arm over a soft 19" arm any day, and so will judges...Bodybuilding is not so much about BF%'s, Measurements, how much you lift etc...As MentalTwitch said it's about creating the illusion of being big, shredded and symmetrical. Yes and MentalTwitch I would have also guessed your arms at 18" as well....sheesh if I just had your shoulders and arms I would be good.
    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    hahaha...oh man.
    everyone chill and put the test. away.

    All M16 was saying is the kid/guy shouldnt be stressed over the size of the arms yet just get them to be looking good and where he wants to be.

    Bodybuilding IS an optical illusion game, i dont think anyone has ever walked and stage and yelled..."i got the biggest arms here..." and the judges hand him the award. Its all about portions and shape. The numbers are all in people heads. I have had people guess mine where 18"~ and last i remember i was at 16 3/4".

    to the OP. I would focus on movement, because(no offense here) if you are moving that weight you listed, you should be looking a bit bigger or more lean at least. NOT saying its impossible, but if you were to adjust training, youd be able to build more of the "look"
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    How many people with 19 inch arms do you hear complaining about there arms then? Find me that post please.
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    Not the point that I was trying to make to him...My point to him was do not get caught up in measurements because they mean nothing !!!...At his height a lean hard 15" arm can look great and not small at all...That was my point.

    If you read my post again I never said anything about someone complaining about having a 19inch arm...I said a bodybuilding judge would pick a hard lean 16" arm over a soft 19" any day...As MentalTwitch pointed out, on stage it does not matter what your measurements are, or what your trainer said your BF% is...It only matters what you look like and the illusion that you create.
    Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    How many people with 19 inch arms do you hear complaining about arm size? Find me that post please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0other View Post
    How many people with 19 inch arms do you hear complaining about there arms then? Find me that post please.
    if i didnt have to screw with my penis....i would prefer a nice small, toned, vascular penis. does that answer ur question
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    OK i maxed today with 305 a$$ to ankles. So i hope that clears up the squat lie i told. 405 will not happen for a while going that deep but it felt really good
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangutan View Post
    if i didnt have to screw with my penis....i would prefer a nice small, toned, vascular penis. does that answer ur question
    lol.. thats actually pretty funny
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    We're talking about 15 inches flexing right? My arms are <15 relaxed, but they're like 16 1/4 flexed.
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    okay, vid of 305 ATG please.

    I will give lots of reps..........

    IMO< Its not how much you can lift, its how much you look like you can lift.

    I'm a weak biatch , so thats my only consolation. lol
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    Navyrigger, I used to do biceps on pull day after back. I got a program from an old book titled Secrets of Advanced Bodybuilders. Anyway, the strategy was to pre-exhaust the biceps by doing the larger muscle groups first, back in this case, before doing any isolation.

    Like most things in lifting, this worked initially but after a few months I had to change routines because I was not making progress. I changed it up and continued doing biceps after back on pull day, but also allocated another week day just for arms.

    Then I went on a 5X5 bicep routine and that worked for a bit, but had to change again.

    This stopped working after a few months, so I changed it up again after re-reading some info on arm development, and I learned I was neglecting my triceps for overall arm development, so I started hitting tris heavier.

    This stopped working after a few months and I changed up the bicep routine to include a drop set at the end (going to failure) and that really stimulated the bicep again, and it now feels like I'm getting a good workout again.

    Anyway, long story short, someone already mentioned focusing on very basic lifts like squat which are fundamental. So you may want to simply rotate your arm routines to keep your muscle guessing. If you want the bicep peak, supinated BB curls have worked well for me.

    I'll also share my failure in growing muscle - not eating enough. I get my ass kicked at the gym lifting hard, but often neglect to eat at least up to maintenance so my muscles don't grow as fast as I would like. Don't do what I do - you got to eat to grow. Kristofer68SS already gave you a lead "12 weeks-Starting Strength program,,,,,,lots of cals and lots of rest" go with it.

    Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    IMO< Its not how much you can lift, its how much you look like you can lift.
    exactly, but alot of people dont understand that. theyre like "why cant u lift that tire and put it in the back of my truck....i thought u were a big bodybuilder!?".....im like thats not what bodybuilding is, thats powerlifting.

    powerlifting is just an excuse route for people with too much bodyfat....originally i bet they all try to be bodybuilders. but once they realize they dont have the metabolism, they take the powerlifting route. thats what ive noticed, no pun intended
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangutan View Post
    exactly, but alot of people dont understand that. theyre like "why cant u lift that tire and put it in the back of my truck....i thought u were a big bodybuilder!?".....im like thats not what bodybuilding is, thats powerlifting.

    powerlifting is just an excuse route for people with too much bodyfat....originally i bet they all try to be bodybuilders. but once they realize they dont have the metabolism, they take the powerlifting route. thats what ive noticed, no pun intended
    nah, some guys can just move large amounts of weight. I believe its more than just mind or matter. Although that mentality has its merits, at least until injury. lol

    I see it in the gym all the time. Guys lifting alot of weight for their size. Not just fat powerlifters. 1 "fat"guy in the gym doing that, huge guy- lifted the most on dead and bench i have personally seen. 505 on bench and 900+ or so on deads......NUTS.

    Others like myself, do not have that gift. Genetics. Small ass ankles and wrists. lol

    Its not an excuse, with training and diet I have gotten alot stronger without a doubt. But to say im strong, nope.......

    starting strength is a good one. pack a lunch and leave everything in the gym and you WILL grow.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    nah, some guys can just move large amounts of weight. I believe its more than just mind or matter. Although that mentality has its merits, at least until injury. lol

    I see it in the gym all the time. Guys lifting alot of weight for their size. Not just fat powerlifters. 1 "fat"guy in the gym doing that, huge guy- lifted the most on dead and bench i have personally seen. 505 on bench and 900+ or so on deads......NUTS.

    Others like myself, do not have that gift. Genetics. Small ass ankles and wrists. lol

    Its not an excuse, with training and diet I have gotten alot stronger without a doubt. But to say im strong, nope.......

    starting strength is a good one. pack a lunch and leave everything in the gym and you WILL grow.

    Good luck.
    small ankles and wrist are good...u dont want fankles
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangutan View Post
    small ankles and wrist are good...u dont want fankles
    I could weigh 250 and wouldnt get fankles........

    my calves might grow though.......lol
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