WTF is wrong with my arms?
- 04-28-2009, 03:56 PM
- 04-28-2009, 06:37 PM
OK i maxed today with 305 a$$ to ankles. So i hope that clears up the squat lie i told. 405 will not happen for a while going that deep but it felt really good
04-28-2009, 08:14 PM
04-28-2009, 08:51 PM
We're talking about 15 inches flexing right? My arms are <15 relaxed, but they're like 16 1/4 flexed.
04-28-2009, 09:10 PM
okay, vid of 305 ATG please.
I will give lots of reps..........
IMO< Its not how much you can lift, its how much you look like you can lift.
I'm a weak biatch , so thats my only consolation. lol
05-01-2009, 07:56 AM
Navyrigger, I used to do biceps on pull day after back. I got a program from an old book titled Secrets of Advanced Bodybuilders. Anyway, the strategy was to pre-exhaust the biceps by doing the larger muscle groups first, back in this case, before doing any isolation.
Like most things in lifting, this worked initially but after a few months I had to change routines because I was not making progress. I changed it up and continued doing biceps after back on pull day, but also allocated another week day just for arms.
Then I went on a 5X5 bicep routine and that worked for a bit, but had to change again.
This stopped working after a few months, so I changed it up again after re-reading some info on arm development, and I learned I was neglecting my triceps for overall arm development, so I started hitting tris heavier.
This stopped working after a few months and I changed up the bicep routine to include a drop set at the end (going to failure) and that really stimulated the bicep again, and it now feels like I'm getting a good workout again.
Anyway, long story short, someone already mentioned focusing on very basic lifts like squat which are fundamental. So you may want to simply rotate your arm routines to keep your muscle guessing. If you want the bicep peak, supinated BB curls have worked well for me.
I'll also share my failure in growing muscle - not eating enough. I get my ass kicked at the gym lifting hard, but often neglect to eat at least up to maintenance so my muscles don't grow as fast as I would like. Don't do what I do - you got to eat to grow. Kristofer68SS already gave you a lead "12 weeks-Starting Strength program,,,,,,lots of cals and lots of rest" go with it.
Best of luck.
05-01-2009, 08:18 AM
powerlifting is just an excuse route for people with too much bodyfat....originally i bet they all try to be bodybuilders. but once they realize they dont have the metabolism, they take the powerlifting route. thats what ive noticed, no pun intended
05-01-2009, 08:30 AM
I see it in the gym all the time. Guys lifting alot of weight for their size. Not just fat powerlifters. 1 "fat"guy in the gym doing that, huge guy- lifted the most on dead and bench i have personally seen. 505 on bench and 900+ or so on deads......NUTS.
Others like myself, do not have that gift. Genetics. Small ass ankles and wrists. lol
Its not an excuse, with training and diet I have gotten alot stronger without a doubt. But to say im strong, nope.......
starting strength is a good one. pack a lunch and leave everything in the gym and you WILL grow.
05-01-2009, 09:16 AM
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05-01-2009, 06:13 PM
I am having a hard time with my legs. I'm in the military so always doing long runs never really let me put on to much mass. I dont run as much now so the deads once a week an squats every 3 days with a 5x5 routine is starting to help. But the ruck sack runs did make my legs really strong for there size. I think i could easily put 10 to 15 pounds on my legs.
05-01-2009, 06:36 PM
05-01-2009, 07:00 PM
05-03-2009, 03:21 AM
Go heavier on Deads and other back exercises,... and your bis will blow up (that is considering you already have a good bi workout.... ).
05-07-2009, 02:15 PM
as for the 19" arms comment. I decided to put a link of a person with 19" arms who would much rather have 16" shreded arms. [IMG]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://philip.greenspun.com/images/20050813-newport-jazz-festival/fat-shirtless-guy-eating-cheeseburger-1.3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://philip.greenspun.com/images/20050813-newport-jazz-festival/fat-shirtless-guy-eating-cheeseburger-1.tcl&usg=__jZaxHE8MPAfbr3G90SuuLIwl fK4=&h=793&w=532&sz=107&hl=en&start=14&sig2=CT1pBWSb_Ylt93CiGQFPOg&um=1&tbn****gUVeFnli6m5NXM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfat%2Bguys%26hl%3 Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=LCMDSvL7HuaGmQf2hKDVBA[/IMG]
. As for Navyrigger, I just wanted to say don't worry about how much weight you lift. I think this has already been said. If you are into powerlifting then that is great, but for bodybuilding focus on form and how your muscles feel/grow. I had to learn this lesson on back training. Besides deads I go light on everything, and just have perfect form. I also wanted to add that I think your bis look porportional. Just make sure you are eating right, training to grow muscle (and not just lifting more weight).
05-07-2009, 02:25 PM
Actually those are probably 16" fat arms. Nice try though.
Hard to have these arguments too because different people want different things.
And the thing about the powerlifter/bodybuilder difference. A large majority of the time if the powerlifter cut down he'd blow the bodybuilder out of the water in term of thickness and size. Read up on the fundamentals of DC training and you will see all these things first hand, the guy who writes most of it is Dante. He will instill a different belief system in your mind in regards to the best way to grow and be as big/strong as you can be. If you dont want to be as big/strong as you can be then dont come on here and complain about your 15" arms. If you have to blow up to 230 at 20%bf then cut down to 210 at 8% then so be it. The thing is by the time you went to 230 and back to 210 if you went the route people on here think they should go you'd probably only be up to 180. All a matter of what you want though.
05-07-2009, 03:03 PM
It's funny how so many people think that weight lifted isn't correlated with muscle size. Sorry, but the difference between a "powerlifter" and a "bodybuilder" has more to do with DIET than it does with training.
05-07-2009, 06:51 PM
I hope you didn't think I was saying powerlifting is a waste... I have mad respect for it. I mean look a johnny jackson haha. For me, I have personally quit worrying about how much weight I was using and focused on quality isolation of the muscles (I still try to go heavy though), this way I grew much more. I will look into the guy you were talking about, but from my friends who are into powerlifting, it seems that they are not focusing in on the specific muscles for lifting. They focus on doing what the f ever they can to get that dang weight up haha.
05-07-2009, 07:38 PM
Look up DC Training, thats his training program. I dont do DC anymore but I still carry alot of his fundamentals with me. He has ALOT of insightful information online that you can read. It'll change alot of your concepts in working out.
05-07-2009, 10:57 PM
05-08-2009, 02:45 AM
the size of the arms comments are stupid....its about proportion. arms isnt all that matters lol. its everything.... as in how well the arms sit in proportion with the shoulders/traps. huge arms with no shoulders or traps looks alien like. or whats the point of big arms if it comes with a big belly? u see?
05-08-2009, 05:43 AM
again, you're an idiot. You call powerlifting an "alternative route". That's a joke. Obviously you are not masculine enough to know the rush it is to lift a huge ammount of weight in front of alot of people. Thats what powerlifters do it for. Not because they are not "genetically gifted" enough with "fast metabolisms", that's just someone who isn't even 200 pounds thinking he's a body builder. Show me one person who can bench 500 pounds than if he cut down to 8-10% body fat which I am sure you are not wouldn't weigh more than 200 pounds at your height, you cant. Being a powerlifter doesn't mean you have to be a lard ass. Look at Pudgenowski(sp), he sure as hell isn't. The skin comment is also a joke. Tell me we can fly people to the moon but we don't have cream to tighten up skin? Being 20% body fat is not obesely fat and definitely can be recovered to look firm when a person is 6-8%.
And about your second comment. Don't call MY comments stupid when you're the one who is too stupid to interprut them. Please show me where I said to just work you're arms. I am a huge advocate of heavy compound lifts as the basis of your workout program. How many guys do you know who can bench 500 pounds, squat 600 pounds, deadlift 600 pounds that post threads complaining about how they cannot get there arms to grow? NONE. Getting big doesn't involve curling 20lb DB's with picture perfect presice form contracting your Bi's at every position through the curl and breathing with the prowl of a tiger. I'd much rather see someone curling 70's with a few cheat reps at the end of there set. That's how you put on size. Muscles grow from lifting HEAVY.
Again as I have posted in previous posts, this is a matter of personal opinion. However, organutan, your opion is not something i'd consider of any relevance as it is too biased to someone who obviously thinks he is a "bodybuilder".
05-08-2009, 10:32 AM
so u go ahead and continue to look flabby and soft at OVER 200lbs lol, and ill keep looking huge and hard and bigger than u at UNDER 200lbs. by the way...do they have good education out there in alabama? have a nice day man
05-08-2009, 11:48 AM
In grad school they sure do. And for your other point, Mr. "Can I take noxplode with my steroids", even with your steroids you are not bigger than me nor look better.
05-08-2009, 01:10 PM
That education comment is the least educated comment in this whole thread too btw, I dont know if you realized this but the civil war was 150 years ago. The Alabama being a uneducated and poor state is sort of a thing of the past. However, if you ever want to come visit i'd be glad to show you around
05-08-2009, 08:33 PM
and.. I have a beautiful lady who is intelligent and respects me more for working hard and lifting hard than shooting steroids up my ass twice a week. You're 190 pounds after taking 2 cycles rescently? Do you honestly think that is impressive to ANYONE? You're a joke and a tool. Obviously your personality and looks are not up to par so you have to resort to steroids to try to find a stupid girl who will like you because you have nice muscles, which I am sure you wont tell her how you really got them. Get a life, fool.
05-09-2009, 03:51 AM
struck a nerve ehh flabby? lol. your extra 20lbs is in ur ass and belly anyway from the pic. im maybe 6-7%, arms are about 19-19.5"
btw post a pic of the gf.....if u have enough confidence to post a pic of what u just did, then a pic of the beautiful girlfreind should be just as classic. please do so i can enjoy myself
05-09-2009, 04:50 AM
im just gonna chime in and say my arms are 15" and im only 5'6... and i def think my arms could use some work and also agree they are SMALL but LOOK huge... Also for the OP i found that focusing a lot on my tri's and not my bi's gave my upper arm a lil more round look to it... which is what i feel you are worried about because my arms looked almost identical to urs a month ago.
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