WTF is wrong with my arms?
- 05-01-2009, 09:20 AM
- 05-01-2009, 05:22 PM
- 05-01-2009, 06:13 PM
I am having a hard time with my legs. I'm in the military so always doing long runs never really let me put on to much mass. I dont run as much now so the deads once a week an squats every 3 days with a 5x5 routine is starting to help. But the ruck sack runs did make my legs really strong for there size. I think i could easily put 10 to 15 pounds on my legs.
05-01-2009, 06:36 PM
05-01-2009, 07:00 PM
05-03-2009, 03:21 AM
Go heavier on Deads and other back exercises,... and your bis will blow up (that is considering you already have a good bi workout.... ).
05-07-2009, 02:15 PM
as for the 19" arms comment. I decided to put a link of a person with 19" arms who would much rather have 16" shreded arms.
. As for Navyrigger, I just wanted to say don't worry about how much weight you lift. I think this has already been said. If you are into powerlifting then that is great, but for bodybuilding focus on form and how your muscles feel/grow. I had to learn this lesson on back training. Besides deads I go light on everything, and just have perfect form. I also wanted to add that I think your bis look porportional. Just make sure you are eating right, training to grow muscle (and not just lifting more weight).
05-07-2009, 02:25 PM
Actually those are probably 16" fat arms. Nice try though.
Hard to have these arguments too because different people want different things.
And the thing about the powerlifter/bodybuilder difference. A large majority of the time if the powerlifter cut down he'd blow the bodybuilder out of the water in term of thickness and size. Read up on the fundamentals of DC training and you will see all these things first hand, the guy who writes most of it is Dante. He will instill a different belief system in your mind in regards to the best way to grow and be as big/strong as you can be. If you dont want to be as big/strong as you can be then dont come on here and complain about your 15" arms. If you have to blow up to 230 at 20%bf then cut down to 210 at 8% then so be it. The thing is by the time you went to 230 and back to 210 if you went the route people on here think they should go you'd probably only be up to 180. All a matter of what you want though.
05-07-2009, 03:03 PM
It's funny how so many people think that weight lifted isn't correlated with muscle size. Sorry, but the difference between a "powerlifter" and a "bodybuilder" has more to do with DIET than it does with training.
05-07-2009, 06:51 PM
I hope you didn't think I was saying powerlifting is a waste... I have mad respect for it. I mean look a johnny jackson haha. For me, I have personally quit worrying about how much weight I was using and focused on quality isolation of the muscles (I still try to go heavy though), this way I grew much more. I will look into the guy you were talking about, but from my friends who are into powerlifting, it seems that they are not focusing in on the specific muscles for lifting. They focus on doing what the f ever they can to get that dang weight up haha.
05-07-2009, 07:38 PM
Look up DC Training, thats his training program. I dont do DC anymore but I still carry alot of his fundamentals with me. He has ALOT of insightful information online that you can read. It'll change alot of your concepts in working out.
05-07-2009, 10:57 PM
05-08-2009, 02:45 AM
the size of the arms comments are stupid....its about proportion. arms isnt all that matters lol. its everything.... as in how well the arms sit in proportion with the shoulders/traps. huge arms with no shoulders or traps looks alien like. or whats the point of big arms if it comes with a big belly? u see?
05-08-2009, 05:43 AM
again, you're an idiot. You call powerlifting an "alternative route". That's a joke. Obviously you are not masculine enough to know the rush it is to lift a huge ammount of weight in front of alot of people. Thats what powerlifters do it for. Not because they are not "genetically gifted" enough with "fast metabolisms", that's just someone who isn't even 200 pounds thinking he's a body builder. Show me one person who can bench 500 pounds than if he cut down to 8-10% body fat which I am sure you are not wouldn't weigh more than 200 pounds at your height, you cant. Being a powerlifter doesn't mean you have to be a lard ass. Look at Pudgenowski(sp), he sure as hell isn't. The skin comment is also a joke. Tell me we can fly people to the moon but we don't have cream to tighten up skin? Being 20% body fat is not obesely fat and definitely can be recovered to look firm when a person is 6-8%.
And about your second comment. Don't call MY comments stupid when you're the one who is too stupid to interprut them. Please show me where I said to just work you're arms. I am a huge advocate of heavy compound lifts as the basis of your workout program. How many guys do you know who can bench 500 pounds, squat 600 pounds, deadlift 600 pounds that post threads complaining about how they cannot get there arms to grow? NONE. Getting big doesn't involve curling 20lb DB's with picture perfect presice form contracting your Bi's at every position through the curl and breathing with the prowl of a tiger. I'd much rather see someone curling 70's with a few cheat reps at the end of there set. That's how you put on size. Muscles grow from lifting HEAVY.
Again as I have posted in previous posts, this is a matter of personal opinion. However, organutan, your opion is not something i'd consider of any relevance as it is too biased to someone who obviously thinks he is a "bodybuilder".
05-08-2009, 10:32 AM
so u go ahead and continue to look flabby and soft at OVER 200lbs lol, and ill keep looking huge and hard and bigger than u at UNDER 200lbs. by the way...do they have good education out there in alabama? have a nice day man
05-08-2009, 11:48 AM
In grad school they sure do. And for your other point, Mr. "Can I take noxplode with my steroids", even with your steroids you are not bigger than me nor look better.
05-08-2009, 01:10 PM
That education comment is the least educated comment in this whole thread too btw, I dont know if you realized this but the civil war was 150 years ago. The Alabama being a uneducated and poor state is sort of a thing of the past. However, if you ever want to come visit i'd be glad to show you around
05-08-2009, 08:33 PM
and.. I have a beautiful lady who is intelligent and respects me more for working hard and lifting hard than shooting steroids up my ass twice a week. You're 190 pounds after taking 2 cycles rescently? Do you honestly think that is impressive to ANYONE? You're a joke and a tool. Obviously your personality and looks are not up to par so you have to resort to steroids to try to find a stupid girl who will like you because you have nice muscles, which I am sure you wont tell her how you really got them. Get a life, fool.
05-09-2009, 03:51 AM
struck a nerve ehh flabby? lol. your extra 20lbs is in ur ass and belly anyway from the pic. im maybe 6-7%, arms are about 19-19.5"
btw post a pic of the gf.....if u have enough confidence to post a pic of what u just did, then a pic of the beautiful girlfreind should be just as classic. please do so i can enjoy myself
05-09-2009, 04:50 AM
im just gonna chime in and say my arms are 15" and im only 5'6... and i def think my arms could use some work and also agree they are SMALL but LOOK huge... Also for the OP i found that focusing a lot on my tri's and not my bi's gave my upper arm a lil more round look to it... which is what i feel you are worried about because my arms looked almost identical to urs a month ago.
05-09-2009, 08:59 AM
You've been on this forum for years NEVER posting a picture of yourself. Hard to believe from someone asking if he can take NoXplode with his Deca and Test. Yet somehow you think you have the authority to judge other peoples pictures? I'm sure everyone on here would LOVE to see someone living at contest bf with 19.5inch arms! You'd be a inspiration to all the 5'7 and under crowd on the forum. So why dont YOU post your pics up(you should have no problem since you have built the testosterone body of perfection). Then maybe I will feel like I have something to prove to someone who claims to be 25 but types and acts like he is 18.
ps-- Dont download some picture of a guy with big muscles you jerk off too off Yahoo Images, actually post one of you, that means have something in the pic to prove it is you.
05-09-2009, 03:15 PM
I'd also like to see the 300lb bench. At 164, that is quite a feat. Thats almost double your body weight and not many can do that.
05-09-2009, 03:44 PM
I think your arms looked proportioned.
Are you working your arms? Your arms will usually grow from big compounds only.
My arms plateaued really bad at 13". I did a lot of arm isolation for them and couldn't get past that. Then, I dropped arm isolation and they jumped to 15" in just over a year. I just incorporated arm drive back into my routine back in November and they are up to 16" now.
It's a general rule of thumb; however, that you put 1 inch on your arms for every 15 pounds you gain. So the way to gain arm circumference is through gaining weight.
05-09-2009, 08:41 PM
05-10-2009, 12:10 PM
wow 300lbs bench, i cant even do that and we are like the same height, 225 for deadlifts is really low considering all your other numbers, maybe work on your deadlifts and bent over barbell rows a litle more.
i say legs need work too
05-10-2009, 12:38 PM
H0other, post pics before you run your mouth. You avi make you look like you have no shape. 220?...ok...?
Powerlifters and bodybuilders are different people a but not really. I think its Johnnie Jackson who actually competes in Powerlifting off season.
Some BBers like to lift heavy amounts of wieght, not worry about form, etc etc...
Powerlifters usually never worry about form to the T like BBers, no symmetry issues to fix.
This is a useless arguement.
05-10-2009, 12:39 PM
05-10-2009, 12:47 PM
05-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Even if I was 120 pounds at 40% body fat i'd still run my mouth, the founding fathers of the USA gave me that right and I use it to the utmost of my ability. I have currently cut to 210 and had my bf checked Friday and it was listed at 12%. I'm waiting til I get to 8% at 200 pounds as people on this forum dont understand that the best way to build muscle is to bulk up during the offseason rather than stay lean year round.
And about the BB/PL thing. I'd love to see the terrible form of these powerlifters you talk of. I'm guessing from the way you say it they bench bouncing it off there chest and only going half way up? squatting half way down and jumping at the top? Tell me exactly how there form is so much different and supposedly WORSE in your opinion.
05-10-2009, 01:31 PM
05-10-2009, 01:34 PM
05-10-2009, 02:12 PM
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05-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Bolt -- I dont get it either, i'm such a nice and agreeable guy!! hahahahaha
Rest of you f'ers - I'll put a pic up of my back as my profile pic from last week here in a minute but I dont have a camera at campus, so I will have to wait until next week when I go home to see the fam til I can supply you with new pictures of me for your viewing pleasure.
05-10-2009, 02:33 PM
Actually, I'll just start a thread in a week or so with pic's. But when I do expect Rep's galore.
Mental Twitch -- How can you comment on someones pic's when the only pic I can find of you looks like it was taken inside a tanning bed with the light on? When I post that thread I expect you'll be starting one too with normal pictures?
I'm going to leave this thread alone now so it can get back to helping navy with his arms lol.
05-10-2009, 02:40 PM
05-10-2009, 02:48 PM
I broke a 13" arm plateau by not doing arm work, through. Seeing arms are overloaded in the bigger / heavy compounds.
My traps for example are massive and I never work them. Same thing with my calves, while some people have to hammer their traps and calves. I, at the moment, have to work my arms for arm growth.
But let's not forget, it's a general rule of thumb that you gain 1 inch on your arms every 15 pounds you gain, so if you're not gaining weight it isn't likely you'll be gaining inches to your arms.
05-10-2009, 02:56 PM
What's nice ?
And gymrat hit the nail on the head. These arguments are ridiculous because everyone is differen Mentally, physically, genetically. The moral of this story should be to try different things and then stick with what works.
05-10-2009, 03:24 PM
05-10-2009, 03:44 PM
For example, I like Mark Rippetoe and some of what he says, but that "drink a gallon of milk per day" bull**** I think he was smoking some serious weed. The whole "don't do arm work, don't do more than one chest exercise" type stuff I disagree with, too.
05-10-2009, 04:54 PM
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