Quick Pheromone Primer and Introduction

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  1. Thanks guys. It seems so strange not to reveal what is in a product, but I guess it's different if you aren't ingesting something. I've got free samples on the way, and look forward to checking them out.


  2. Sorry I'm a bit late chiming in here. As mentioned by Fantasy, InTV may benefit from products more indicative of creating comfortable social settings. Your experience of being called an ******* while also mentioning that you are a bit quiet, yet at the same time believe yourself to be friendly when someone gives you the chance makes you a prime candidate for some pheromone supplementation. Generally, the crew over at Love-Scent would say that you are giving off more of a Lone Wolf vibe. That is, you appear possibly a bit dominant and unapproachable simply at a glance, which generally may not be true should someone spend the time to talk to you, but of course, we are dealing with their impression or peception of you. Hence, as mentioned, products like WAGG, SOE, etc may help to give you more of an approachable vibe and allow for you get more conversations going and thus, spice thigns up a bit. .

    A little bit more about pheromone supplementation. As explained above, different products exist, give different GENERAL results, and make people respond differently. Everyone will benefit more or less from various products. It really all depends on your natural pheromone secretion, environment, personality, attitude, etc. Many variables will influence what product(s) may be beneficial. In addition, as pointed out above, people who are happily married may use pheromones for business, sales, meetings, and other various professional interactions to help get an edge. Rumor has it that some collections agencies have actually spiked their notices in the mail with an androstenone pheromone to attempt to make the client more likely to pay their money. Essentially they are trying to send the signal that they came to play, don't mess with us, we are the dominant ones and will DOMINATE you...whatever .

    On to some personal experiences. I have had the ability to experiment with quite a few products, formulations, etc, and have found some very interesting reactions. In an experiment of mixing stand alone products, I played with Chikara and Alter ego. I wanted to test an idea based on feedback of chikara and what I've personally seen through Alter ego use. And the story goes:

    There was this woman who I have known now for about 5 years. I showed interest initially and she was not reciprocating. A couple years later, I showed interest again and nothing happened. Following that, she was in a long term relationship for a couple years and finally broke up. I didn't approach her initially as I wanted to avoid her rebound (i.e. - I didn't want to pray on the weak). After a few months we began chatting more online and started to peak her interest a bit. I finally got her to say that she would be interested in getting together over the weekend so on saturday afternoon, I gave her a call and asked if she wanted to come by tonight, go out to eat, etc. She said sure and I began preparations. Step 1. Clean the house. 2. Clean the sheets!! 3. Hit the store and get two bottles of wine, one red, one white. 4. Pick up some candles. 5. (my favorite) I went to the store and got some strawberries and cool whip, just in case. At this point, I was running late. She called as soon as I got out of the shower and said that she was outside. I got dressed really quick, sprayed on 2 sprays of chikara to the neck area, two on the wrists, and dabbed a little alter ego on the neck pulse points. The idea? I wanted to avoid falling into the friendship zone with her. We had known eachother for 5 years already and had ONLY been friends during that time. Thus, I wanted a little bit of an androstenone edge to help induce more sexual hits. We kicked off the evening with a couple glasses of wine and some music to chat a bit and catch up. About 40 minutes later, we were ready to go to dinner. I told her I'd be right back (hit the bathroom) and when coming out she was walking down the hallway towards me. I figured she was going to go as well, but I wanted to test out how she was feeling and as she was talking towards me, I stuck my arms out. She came into my arms (which was good lol) and we started to hug. She then BURIED her nose in my neck and snifffffffffed it alll in. She said, oh my Godddd, you smell sooooooo yummy. After dinner we were going to hit a bar for a while but when we got there and I asked if she wanted to get a drink, she said Nope! I just want to go back to your place. Sparing all the fun details, we had a blast back at my place and have been together now for about 6 or 7 weeks. Now here is the question. What would've happened if I wasn't wearing my combo? Well, she informed me later that she wasn't expecting any of this to happen. She was planning at most to have a little fun MAYBE and call it quits. The pheromones did exactly what they are supposed to do. They allowed me to put my foot in the door and show her what I was all about! Luck has it, she really enjoys who I am and what I have to offer. I do believe that the pheromones allowed this relationship to kick off well.....or at the very least, save me a lot of effort trying to change her mindset. Now, to further this and to end the story. I have been able to keep her around without the use of any further pheromones yet I do find I get a more sexual response from her when I do apply (which is also in accordance with what they are supposed to do). All in all, a highly successful and great learning experience!

    Have fun!
    WYD
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  3. Great post, WYD! One thing I've noticed several times is that if I put The Edge on, I tend to get slightly irritable, so I'm definitely sticking to the SOE samples for now on. Is that common? Is the irritability what others around you may feel when you OD? The SOE if anything, tends to calm or relax me slightly. I don't think these reactions are placebo - usually when I'm getting ready I'm in a HURRY - late for work - late for dinner - so I'm not even thinking about how I "feel" until later.

    That's really interesting about the collection agencies! As far as social or business use goes - how do other males generally react to male pheremones? I wonder how they could affect our presentations and pitches here at work? Would none come off as "in charge" or "cocky", would nol come off as "friendly" or could it come off as "weak"?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by intv
    Great post, WYD! One thing I've noticed several times is that if I put The Edge on, I tend to get slightly irritable, so I'm definitely sticking to the SOE samples for now on. Is that common? Is the irritability what others around you may feel when you OD? The SOE if anything, tends to calm or relax me slightly. I don't think these reactions are placebo - usually when I'm getting ready I'm in a HURRY - late for work - late for dinner - so I'm not even thinking about how I "feel" until later.

    That's really interesting about the collection agencies! As far as social or business use goes - how do other males generally react to male pheremones? I wonder how they could affect our presentations and pitches here at work? Would none come off as "in charge" or "cocky", would nol come off as "friendly" or could it come off as "weak"?
    Indeed you are correct. Evidence shows that androstenone can have an effect on your mood and others as well. Heavy androstenone products have been reported to make other males dominate or aggressive towards you and in some cases, even change your own mood like the way you describe. Similarly, people report the opposite with products like SOE which are strictly Nol and Rone based. Generally reports state that people because more conversational, relaxed and open. The latest developements have been obviously trying to create a combination of both to induce sexual results and achieve a perceived approachable state as well. Perception, when released shortly here was designed with many factors in mind, but part of them being to reduce the inherent cautiousness people have with being approached while also providing an extra sexual boost . Good questions!

  5. Heh, I've noticed these things working in much milder ways than WYD so far, but they are working as intended nonetheless! And just like PH or `roids, the smaller an amount you can use to get a good result, the better!

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
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  6. WHAT?? Less is better??? Surely you are kidding!!

    Very keen observations though Manbeast...the difference pheromones make in interaction are tremendous! However, whether this leads to a one-night stand is something completely different!!

    Chemo

  7. Honestly, like the people over at L-S say... Phermones are not a magic bullet... They don't help with that first impression, because you are usually too far away for them to have any effect. Once you have a "foot in the door" so-to-speak, is when they really start to work their magic.

    I would sum this up as how to classify LS's products
    http://www.pherolibrary.com/pmc05/pm....html#products

    Just because I don't want to type stuff wrong!
    I would add Chikara to that list as a great overall product that has all three "primary" phermones and 4 other's. It's been reported to work amazingly well by just about everyone.

    I personally have some SOE, Chikara, and NPA coming in to play with, and I'm stoked!

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Honestly, like the people over at L-S say... Phermones are not a magic bullet... They don't help with that first impression, because you are usually too far away for them to have any effect. Once you have a "foot in the door" so-to-speak, is when they really start to work their magic.

    I would sum this up as how to classify LS's products
    http://www.pherolibrary.com/pmc05/pm....html#products

    Just because I don't want to type stuff wrong!
    I would add Chikara to that list as a great overall product that has all three "primary" phermones and 4 other's. It's been reported to work amazingly well by just about everyone.

    I personally have some SOE, Chikara, and NPA coming in to play with, and I'm stoked!

    ManBeast
    The mistake I see most often is people jumping in with both feet and trying multiple products all at the same time. You have no way of understanding what each product does and what the appropriate dosage is for each. The best approach is to start with any one in a very small quantity and work your way uip until you get reactions. The move on to the next one. Once you have done that with all the products you have, you can judge how much of each to use for best results and don't end up wasting your money or frustrating yourself.

  9. Yep, I just wanted to take advantage of a nice `lil coupon Figure I'll get the SOE down since I'm already experimenting with it. Then give the Chikara a "shot" and then start really playing around with SOE and NPA

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  10. so, BDC is going to be coming out with pheromones? let us know when. i'll give it a try. make sure you have an unscented version as i like my fancy colognes.

  11. I believe the mad scientist is coming up with something
    For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page.

  12. Anybody get their free samples yet? Just wondering cuz I've been playing the waiting game for almost 3 weeks now..

    I REALLY wanna try these things out!

  13. Many people have. I suggest you contact Bruce over at LS.
    For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by shaddow
    Anybody get their free samples yet? Just wondering cuz I've been playing the waiting game for almost 3 weeks now..

    I REALLY wanna try these things out!
    Shadow

    That's way too long! Contact Bruce, He'll take care of you quickly. You can e-mail him at [email protected].

  15. Thanks for the quick responses, I'm e-mailing him now!

  16. Just thought I'd let you all know that I e-mailed Bruce and he quickly e-mailed me back saying that the order was shipped out. So apparently the issue was with shipping or something. Bruce handled it very proffessionally and said he would send out another sample.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by lancelot
    so, BDC is going to be coming out with pheromones? let us know when. i'll give it a try. make sure you have an unscented version as i like my fancy colognes.
    Check the link in my sig

    I'm coming out with a pheromone product called "Perception" that contains 3 major pheromones: -nol, -none, and -rone.

    It is a water based formula and also unscented. We also include another atomizer that has 5 mL of fragrance (so, there are two atomizers per unit: one with pheromones and the other with fragrance). The reason we did this is so people that have their own cologne could continue using their preference.

    At any rate, we should be releasing Perception within a few more days! We are calling this the "Gold" release and will be the traditional feedback batch. After we get feedback we're going to tweak the formula and release the "Platinum" version which will be the final release.

    Chemo

  18. Indeed, the gold release will allow us to keep track of the initial production line and guage results should someone still be on a previous release and for some reason the formula is altered. Check out www.bdcconcepts.com for a more in depth explanation on our water based formula and pheromone blend.

  19. My Observations ---

    Alter-Ego & SOE ---- Strange effects on people that I cannot explain. It seems to loosen up people in general not just women and I have to admit that the damn alter-ego stuff smells good to me... I feel extra cocky when I smell it on my own hand.... I've also had some friends try out the Alter-Ego and they report the same thing about it modifying their own behavior .. making you more happy, cocky, confident, but not pure aggression.

    Come Talk to Me, A314, and a few others that i've tried I've noticed no effect on.

    I just got the Primal Insinct and Edge and look forward to evaluating them.

    In the meantime, SOE and Alter-Ego have caused some females (even geriatric aged women) to act in strange ways with respect to me. Last night with SOE and Alter-Ego this chick is flirting with me notwithstanding her boyfriend right next to her, grabs my hand and puts it on the top of her breast; asking for a commentary on a fat deposit above her left breast. The boyfriend doesn't take umbrage and have a fit of jealous rage, but acts as though he wants to be my buddy. Very strange.

    At a store, a women age 65-70, wearing SOE only, starts to behave like a school girl and tells me she baked these brownies for her grandson but she wanted me to try them. I am 27 and looks 23. This was just plain bizarre. This was a UPS Store.

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    Another experience.. I am in a club and trying to watch a game on the TV. Not dressed up or paying any heed to the women-folk a flocking around. A few minutes later, I hear all these people talking (was trying to watch the game you see).. and there is a clan of about 10 girls clinging together -- an entire club floor open.. plenty of bar space... my head not even looking at them.... a clan gaining a 2-3 ft proximity to me .... I've noticed a lot of SUBTLE behaviors on this stuff..

    ----- I would recommend that you get larger amounts of data by having some friends all try different combinations of these and experiment and discuss results --- too many permutations to do yourself......

    I also noticed nothing with PheroMax.... and with this other name that had an actually study published x10 or something like that. Ironically, it was the only one I found any press coverage on .... and did nothing....

    So far SOE & Alter-Ego --- at the very least--- you feel better-- and maybe some people losen up----- good for business, networking, sales, etc at the very least...

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    I'd like to hear some other people's experiences..... figure out which of these are a waste and which aren't..

  20. Great Post! Feedback at LS has shown that depending on the product and dosages (seems to be linked to SOE often) that men become my friendly/open to the point where they don't see you as a threat, even when imposing on a significant other. On the flipside, people have reported aggression or hostility from others when wearing heavy androstenone products. A lot of speculation and studies come into play when discussing these results, but none the less, feedback has reported them!
  21. Aggression Confirmation


    On the heavy androstenone mixes, I have had women make I HATE YOU faces at me... no conversion.. no flirt... but looking at me
    like I'm the devil himself. SOE loosens up everyone as you said. One drop too much on anything though and it seems as though your
    better of with nothing on.... I guess all about the subtlely and predisposition of the target pool..

    I have had negative results or no results with:

    Athena Institutes product (the one will all the hype)
    Come Talk to Me!
    A314 --- 3 girlfriends thought it smelled like cat-urine


    Quote Originally Posted by whosyourdaddy02
    Great Post! Feedback at LS has shown that depending on the product and dosages (seems to be linked to SOE often) that men become my friendly/open to the point where they don't see you as a threat, even when imposing on a significant other. On the flipside, people have reported aggression or hostility from others when wearing heavy androstenone products. A lot of speculation and studies come into play when discussing these results, but none the less, feedback has reported them!
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