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    OK, I'm new to prohormones and I'm about ready to start a cycle of HDROL in about one month. My age is 19, height is 5'7", weight is 190, bodyfat is 20%, bench is 275, squat is 245, deadlift is 300. I'm unproportioned I know but upper body mass is my biggest goal. My questions are,

    What are the usual expected gains with HDROL?
    What is a good PCT?
    How many bottles of cycle assist (liver protector) should I buy?
    How long should I run the recommended PCT?

    If you can answer those questions, I'll be greatful.

    Maybe there are some H-DROL reviews on this site?

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    Before you get ragged, try posting this in the "Anabolic" section. This is the "PHEROmones" section. You'll be able to get the answers your looking for there.
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    Pheromones
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    looks close but like posted above wrong section
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    I thought that was just a different way of spelling prohormones, mind giving me some advice on the pct, liver protector, dosage, how often to take it, etc?
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    You are 19. Try PH's when you are older. How long have you been lifting? Not long enough.
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    I've been lifting for three years. I see nothing wrong with taking PHs at age 19, I'll be 20 in two months anyway. I'm sure there's no certain age where you automatically become eligible to take PHs. Shouldn't you take PHs when you reach your genetic potential? I have very good reasoning to believe I have indeed reached that and will in fact be running HDROL.
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    190 isn't your genetic potential, especially at 20% BF. Hdrol isn't a steroid that is going to lean you out miraculously. Diets do that. You will need to clean up your diet significantly and improve your lifting to even get a glimpse of your genetic potential. There is a time for everything. You are your own person though.

    Feel free to use the search feature on this forum to find everything you need for your Hdrol cycle. You aren't going to be handed everything.

    You should post a log too.
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    Genetic potential is what MrBigPR is a at...190 at 20% BF is no where near it, 20% BF also suggests a lack of diet knowledge...also try researching, use google and this forum. Most people on this forum will give you advice, but asking what to take how often to take it etc etc shows simply laziness on your part, the fact that you would also just do what someone on the internet told you to put in your body without your own research also says something for your maturity...leave the steroids alone for a few years bro, try diet alterations and some natural supplements for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    190 isn't your genetic potential, especially at 20% BF. Hdrol isn't a steroid that is going to lean you out miraculously. Diets do that. You will need to clean up your diet significantly and improve your lifting to even get a glimpse of your genetic potential. There is a time for everything. You are your own person though.

    Feel free to use the search feature on this forum to find everything you need for your Hdrol cycle. You aren't going to be handed everything.

    You should post a log too.
    I know that diets are the key to bodyfat% and I have started a log.

    I have good knowledge when it comes to diet and exercise, I am new to anabolic s and that is it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    Genetic potential is what MrBigPR is a at...190 at 20% BF is no where near it, 20% BF also suggests a lack of diet knowledge...also try researching, use google and this forum. Most people on this forum will give you advice, but asking what to take how often to take it etc etc shows simply laziness on your part, the fact that you would also just do what someone on the internet told you to put in your body without your own research also says something for your maturity...leave the steroids alone for a few years bro, try diet alterations and some natural supplements for now.
    The 20% bodyfat suggests that in my early stages of bulking I was supplemented to bad advice. I started out at 125 pounds and bulked up to 205, then cut back down to where I'm at now at 185. There is no lack of diet knowledge when it comes to me, I can assure you that. The only knowledge that I lack is the knowledge of anabolic.

    When someone joins a forum asking for help to their routine it really doesn't suggest laziness, it suggests they are doing what they're entitled to do on their on part by asking for help from more experienced lifters.

    But ok, I catch your drift, I'll ask questions on another board.

    I'm out.
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    I gave you advice on your diet and routine in your other thread No one wants you to leave, we simply want you to get the basics sorted out before hopping on steroids
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    You have to search, everything isn't going to be handed. All that you ask is actually right in front of you. By you going to another board without searching on here implies laziness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    I gave you advice on your diet and routine in your other thread No one wants you to leave, we simply want you to get the basics sorted out before hopping on steroids
    I can't seem to find my other thread.
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    Never mind, the thread was found and I replied. :-)
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    hahaha your 19? you shouldnt do PH! and look at your body, your not even close to your genetic limit. learn how to diet and train and do everything right first. or your gonna cycle, mistrain and diet incorrectly, gain not as much as you would have, and than lose all of it or more while ruining your nattural testosterone levels for ever. and probalby go on hormone replacement therapy. you need to research and get a few years lifting under your belt. i havn't even cycled yet and im bigger than so many people that have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    hahaha your 19? you shouldnt do PH! and look at your body, your not even close to your genetic limit. learn how to diet and train and do everything right first. or your gonna cycle, mistrain and diet incorrectly, gain not as much as you would have, and than lose all of it or more while ruining your nattural testosterone levels for ever. and probalby go on hormone replacement therapy. you need to research and get a few years lifting under your belt. i havn't even cycled yet and im bigger than so many people that have.
    LMAO, modest to!
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    im sorry im just trying to make a point that he doesnt need PH and that its no magic pill. people ruin themselvs with that!!! remember that monsterbox kid? 20 years old and needs to go on TRT cuz of that ****!
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    Monsterbox needed TRT because he has serious anxiety issues, I would bet money that his test level was exactly the same pre cycle, basically he does not need TRT at all, if you read his logs he has no symptoms whatsoever. Good man though, I agree with you on not encouraging premature PH use.
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    what does anxiety have to do with TRT? because he trips out and thinks he has low tesT?
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    The test level on bloodwork is nothing more than a number, it means nothing unless you have symptoms, some people are genetically suppost to have what is considered a 'low' level of test and will function just fine on it. I believe monster was one of those people, since he had not a single symptom of low test, the reason he went on TRT was because quite frankly he had a serious anxiety issue and was worrying because of some number on a blood test that meant nothing. Monster was a stupid kid who should have never have used steroids, its people like him that get our products banned, now please stop spreading about how steroids put him on TRT they did not. The kid needs a shrink not TRT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    The test level on bloodwork is nothing more than a number, it means nothing unless you have symptoms, some people are genetically suppost to have what is considered a 'low' level of test and will function just fine on it. I believe monster was one of those people, since he had not a single symptom of low test, the reason he went on TRT was because quite frankly he had a serious anxiety issue and was worrying because of some number on a blood test that meant nothing. Monster was a stupid kid who should have never have used steroids, its people like him that get our products banned, now please stop spreading about how steroids put him on TRT they did not. The kid needs a shrink not TRT
    your right my bad bro. i just don think this 19 year old right here is makign a wise choice by using PH when his test levels are already through the roof!
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    Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    hahaha your 19? you shouldnt do PH! and look at your body, your not even close to your genetic limit. learn how to diet and train and do everything right first. or your gonna cycle, mistrain and diet incorrectly, gain not as much as you would have, and than lose all of it or more while ruining your nattural testosterone levels for ever. and probalby go on hormone replacement therapy. you need to research and get a few years lifting under your belt. i havn't even cycled yet and im bigger than so many people that have.
    Before I read your post I felt like a complete newbie, but now I realize even if I am I'm not the only one.

    The only person that can tell if they have reached their genetic potential is the person alone.

    The point of joining this site was to learn about PHs and steroids and how they work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random181 View Post
    The test level on bloodwork is nothing more than a number, it means nothing unless you have symptoms, some people are genetically suppost to have what is considered a 'low' level of test and will function just fine on it. I believe monster was one of those people, since he had not a single symptom of low test, the reason he went on TRT was because quite frankly he had a serious anxiety issue and was worrying because of some number on a blood test that meant nothing. Monster was a stupid kid who should have never have used steroids, its people like him that get our products banned, now please stop spreading about how steroids put him on TRT they did not. The kid needs a shrink not TRT
    Thank you for elaborating on that. Your message was very informative.

    So would a good approach be getting testosterone levels checked? The guy you corrected seemed to let his ego get in the way of his message, that's no one I want to take advice from.

    Thanks.
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    You should be careful of prohormone use. You have gyno already
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamSOFAking View Post
    You should be careful of prohormone use. You have gyno already
    Is it really that noticable from my pics or did you read that in my journal?

    I plan on getting surgery for it sooner or later. I hear Epistane prevents gynecomastia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamSOFAking View Post
    You should be careful of prohormone use. You have gyno already
    no surgery!
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    It looks that way from the pictures. Is it pubertal? Epistane is not guaranteed to prevent gyno, it has been shown to reduce some cases. Proceed with caution, especially if pubertal.
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    if you did your research, you might know something about estrogen rebound and that epi is no guarantee to prevent gyno. i know a few people who have gotten gyno from epi. also know of someone who got gyno from hdrol due to an estrogen spike, even though hdrol doesn't convert.
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    Alright guys, you'll be satisfied to know I've decided not to take the PH.

    Instead, I'm going to just do a routine with squats and deadlifts as the prime focus to increase testosterone levels to the highest capability (just a more natural way). I'm going to stick around and update my log here frequently, perhaps every session so if you would like to keep and eye on my progress it's welcomed.
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    Alright bro. Sounds good
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    Thanks.

    But just to be 100% on this, I have decided not to take PHs in the meantime. I'll try to progress by a calorie surplus, progressive resistance and consistency alone. But out or curiosity only, what's the prime reason that a person at age 19-20 should avoid anabolics?
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    The endocrine system is not fully developed.
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    Great, thanks for the info, appreciated.

    One more thing, what is an age to begin considering prohormones?
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    I'm 26 and haven't touched anything yet. Depends on what goals you want. Diet can really take you a long way. Eat right, lift hard and size will come. You will also lose fat like no tommorrow.

    Id say by 23-25 that should be good enough. Some say 21, again preference. The endocrine system is no joke, and TRT is not fun either. (To some TRT is fun, but I used to run a TRT clinic.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    I'm 26 and haven't touched anything yet. Depends on what goals you want. Diet can really take you a long way. Eat right, lift hard and size will come. You will also lose fat like no tommorrow.

    Id say by 23-25 that should be good enough. Some say 21, again preference. The endocrine system is no joke, and TRT is not fun either. (To some TRT is fun, but I used to run a TRT clinic.)
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    You must be a genetic freak!

    What is your bodyfat%?
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    I havent gotten it checked in about 2 years. Im problaby around 7%. You should check my log out in my sig.
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    That's definitely something to be proud of. Especially at 205 lbs which isn't small for a guy that is 5'10", especially depending on the size of your frame.

    I'll have a look at your log, I was wondering what your lifts were anyway.
  

  
 

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