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  1. Quote Originally Posted by IamSOFAking View Post
    You should be careful of prohormone use. You have gyno already
    Is it really that noticable from my pics or did you read that in my journal?

    I plan on getting surgery for it sooner or later. I hear Epistane prevents gynecomastia.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by IamSOFAking View Post
    You should be careful of prohormone use. You have gyno already
    no surgery!
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  3. It looks that way from the pictures. Is it pubertal? Epistane is not guaranteed to prevent gyno, it has been shown to reduce some cases. Proceed with caution, especially if pubertal.

  4. if you did your research, you might know something about estrogen rebound and that epi is no guarantee to prevent gyno. i know a few people who have gotten gyno from epi. also know of someone who got gyno from hdrol due to an estrogen spike, even though hdrol doesn't convert.

  5. Alright guys, you'll be satisfied to know I've decided not to take the PH.

    Instead, I'm going to just do a routine with squats and deadlifts as the prime focus to increase testosterone levels to the highest capability (just a more natural way). I'm going to stick around and update my log here frequently, perhaps every session so if you would like to keep and eye on my progress it's welcomed.
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  6. Alright bro. Sounds good
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  7. Thanks.

    But just to be 100% on this, I have decided not to take PHs in the meantime. I'll try to progress by a calorie surplus, progressive resistance and consistency alone. But out or curiosity only, what's the prime reason that a person at age 19-20 should avoid anabolics?

  8. The endocrine system is not fully developed.
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  9. Great, thanks for the info, appreciated.

    One more thing, what is an age to begin considering prohormones?

  10. I'm 26 and haven't touched anything yet. Depends on what goals you want. Diet can really take you a long way. Eat right, lift hard and size will come. You will also lose fat like no tommorrow.

    Id say by 23-25 that should be good enough. Some say 21, again preference. The endocrine system is no joke, and TRT is not fun either. (To some TRT is fun, but I used to run a TRT clinic.)
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    I'm 26 and haven't touched anything yet. Depends on what goals you want. Diet can really take you a long way. Eat right, lift hard and size will come. You will also lose fat like no tommorrow.

    Id say by 23-25 that should be good enough. Some say 21, again preference. The endocrine system is no joke, and TRT is not fun either. (To some TRT is fun, but I used to run a TRT clinic.)
    You're natural? Is that you in your avatar?

  12. Yep
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  13. You must be a genetic freak!

    What is your bodyfat%?

  14. I havent gotten it checked in about 2 years. Im problaby around 7%. You should check my log out in my sig.
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  15. That's definitely something to be proud of. Especially at 205 lbs which isn't small for a guy that is 5'10", especially depending on the size of your frame.

    I'll have a look at your log, I was wondering what your lifts were anyway.

  16. Glad to here your in for a more natural approach. Food and proper training produces amazing results. Hang in there and use your log as motivation. There are so many people here to help you out its like having a free personal trainer and nutritionist. Just be open minded and listen to the "wise" ones on this board.

  17. I'm in school at the moment to become a personal trainer, just as a minor.

    I've been studying exercise science for about four years now. If you combine all my posts, I've probably had over 10,000 posts on other boards, so I love internet forums!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by GymRat7197 View Post
    I'm in school at the moment to become a personal trainer, just as a minor.

    I've been studying exercise science for about four years now. If you combine all my posts, I've probably had over 10,000 posts on other boards, so I love internet forums!
    Glad to hear your in school going after something you have a passion for. If you love your job, you'll never have to work a day in your life.

    Yeah Mr. BigPR is just a beast!!!!! I love that he's all natty, it gives me a role model to look up to because I dont want to go down the path of PH and AAS. People that use PH or AAS burn out their androgen receptors and not only do they NEED stronger and stronger steroids to get the job done, but they are less and less likely to be able to build muscle with their natural test levels due to clogged receptors. Even if their natty test levels are high! So if one were ever to do PH or AAS i would keep it to one cycle a year to give your body and your receptors plenty of time to clean out and heal. But thats just my oppinion! There are tons of people running cycles back to back with only a few weeks of clean time after PCT and they are getting buff, I think.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    Glad to hear your in school going after something you have a passion for. If you love your job, you'll never have to work a day in your life.

    Yeah Mr. BigPR is just a beast!!!!! I love that he's all natty, it gives me a role model to look up to because I dont want to go down the path of PH and AAS. People that use PH or AAS burn out their androgen receptors and not only do they NEED stronger and stronger steroids to get the job done, but they are less and less likely to be able to build muscle with their natural test levels due to clogged receptors. Even if their natty test levels are high! So if one were ever to do PH or AAS i would keep it to one cycle a year to give your body and your receptors plenty of time to clean out and heal. But thats just my oppinion! There are tons of people running cycles back to back with only a few weeks of clean time after PCT and they are getting buff, I think.
    Yeah he's a freak of nature from his lifts. 300 lbs for 10 reps on bench presses is insane. Especially at 205 lbs.

    I'm surprised (in a good way) so many guys on this board condone a natural approach seeing that the title is in dedication to anabolic steroids.

    If I were to run a PH, I wouldn't run more than two cycles my whole life. Basically, I would just run H-DROL for now and maybe Epistane next year and then move on with a regular approach.

    I've decided to be more natural for now, the next major step I'll be taking is getting a gynecomastia surgery!

  20. Do you have the lumps?
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  21. I'm not sure what you mean?

  22. If you have full blown gyno you will have hard lumps under your nipples.
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  23. dont do surgery bro

  24. Yep, I do.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by buster0371 View Post
    dont do surgery bro
    Isn't it the only way to get rid of gyno?
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