DAA/OEP/EP - Erase Pro End of Bulk/Start IF Cut Phase

[lumipz]

Started this [stack] the 5th of Mar. Got a solid years worth of experienced lifting with a few years of not know what I was doing in the past...
Started this stack at about 178lbs and around 18% body-fat (depending on method). I didn't really see this combo anywhere decided to make a new thread to keep myself a log/get feedback. I know I'm not nearly the biggest or much experienced in the least bit, but here [AM] to learn.

My lifting cycle during the cut has reverting to power-lifting, along the lines of 5/3/1 - 6/4/2 for the reasonable days. I am currently somewhat following IF (Intermittent Fasting) for my diet routine so trying not to put too much stress on the body with high volume/burned glycogen.

Again Start Weight: 178lbs

Monday 5 March
-Start DAA

Wednesday 7 March
-Start EP

Monday 12 March
-Start OEP
-172lbs

Tuesday 13 March
-Hit 1RM PR--405 deadlift

Thursday 15 March
-169lbs--fasted

Friday 16 March
-Carb up/Refeed
-Back up = 174lbs

Sunday 18 March
-172lbs

Monday 19 March
-Back down = 169lbs

Tuesday 20 March
-167lbs--mid day

Wed 21 March
-Both knee dull joint pain

Currently sitting at about 166lbs (Some as water given)

So far the DAA/EP seems to have kept my hormone levels normal which is great. I am also on a multi/green foods supp/6x fish oil.
Just added in Glucos/MSM joint support to help with the sudden dryness. Any questions or input appreciated! Current goal is to finish by the first week of APR (6th-7th) and cut down as far as it happens. After this will maintain body-fat and start bulking up once I get back to the states from overseas. Keeping pics will post up.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Thank you for the feedback and I'm glad you're like the Erase. Those three together are a great stack, although I haven't used OEP, I have used other stims. Are you doing cardio as well?

 

[lumipz]

Cardio is just about every day, low intensity for about 20-30 minutes preferably separate from lifting but sometimes right before...
I was initially somewhat re-comping (while making decent progress) but decided to prioritize cutting fat; avoiding extensive cardio (HITT, Dist.) to be as muscle/protein sparing as possible.

 

[Drizzie88]

Cardio is just about every day, low intensity for about 20-30 minutes preferably separate from lifting but sometimes right before...
I was initially somewhat re-comping (while making decent progress) but decided to prioritize cutting fat; avoiding extensive cardio (HITT, Dist.) to be as muscle/protein sparing as possible.

Bump.

In for the ride! See you at the gym tonight! Shoulders tonight skinny ass!

 

[kevinhy]

Bump.

In for the ride! See you at the gym tonight! Shoulders tonight skinny ass!

Lol, i take it you guys know each other.

Anyway, in for this one. Solid stack for sure.

 

[Drizzie88]

Lol, i take it you guys know each other.

Anyway, in for this one. Solid stack for sure.

Yeah, I introduced him to Anabolic Minds...He's a coworker of mine. Spent 6 months in the middle east with him and had my fair share of ef'd up nights out drinking with this guy.

He knows his stuff...taught me a lot. I would still think Burger King is good for a bulking cycle if it weren't for him .

 

[kevinhy]

Yeah, I introduced him to Anabolic Minds...He's a coworker of mine. Spent 6 months in the middle east with him and had my fair share of ef'd up nights out drinking with this guy.

He knows his stuff...taught me a lot. I would still think Burger King is good for a bulking cycle if it weren't for him .

haha, thats awesome!

 

[lumipz]

Burgerking Tendergrill Sandwich--360kcal 7gfat/40gcarbs/55gprotein... bulk up meal!
Anyways the IF diet is slightly hurting... like 1500kcal/daily, increased recovery times, lack of lifting energy
Two more weeks to go! If not for the BCAAs, fish oil, green foods sup & staples I think it would be pretty rough on the body.
Icy Hot + the joint support almost immediately helped the joint issues.

 

[nattydisaster]

Great to hear. What did u use for joint support?

 

[Drizzie88]

And you call yourself a nutritionist?... How about my meals for the day

" 3 eggs scrambled, 3 peices turkey bacon, 2 slices white bread, CRAISINS "
" 8oz Chicken Breast, Whey Protein shake 40G protein, 10g carbs "
" 14oz Chicken Breast(s) with light alfredo sauce, 2 slices white bread "

and the night is still young... gonna hit 3,500 calories by the morning.


PS: I just hijacked your thread for no reason. Fatty

 

[lumipz]

Great to hear. What did u use for joint support?

Just bought some OTC brand... think its Osteo Bi-Flex, being overseas hard to get the better line of supplement products quickly; was mainly looking for something that had Glucosamine HCL and MSM at least.

 

[lumipz]

Drizzie88 not bad, I like all the chicken. Have you found out if you run better on beef or chicken yet? (Or maybe pork) I'm going to ASSuME you had vegetables with those meals right

Mid-Week Three Update
On another note, yesterday I wasn't able to put out a great effort for Leg's Day, pushed through however. Hopefully Arm's goes well, not feeling too bad today maybe it was just the knees and not stuck in a rut. Have been considering a deload week which I most likely will do next week to help with recovery.
Currently at a borderline low end of 166lbs and lifts don't seem to be hurting to much, I think its just the calorie deficit/lack of glycogen.

 

[Drizzie88]

Update? How was your carb loading day? I am going to sleep 20 hrs today... Wake up to eat and go back to bed!

 

[lumipz]

End of Week-3 Update
165.0 LBS on the dot..
Began refeed which ended up being about 150-200g Carbohydrate (potatos, potatos, and more potatos), and ended up putting up 4.5lbs in water/glycogen weight.

End of day weight was 169.5 and woke up fasted at 168. The insulin spike is rough when you go pretty long without [many carbs], pretty tired. Definitely feel the swell from the carbs and will be starting the lifting week over against with chest ofc. Deload week however.

 

[Drizzie88]

Speaking of...I'm about to eat eat eat and eat then go to they gym too... Interested?

 

[Drizzie88]

Can we get some updates? The peanut gallery is waiting anxiously to see if you have joined the ranks of Lindsay Lohan or Angelina Jolee! Skinny ass.

 

[lumipz]

Week 4 Update...:

This week I felt like I hit a plateau.. was sitting at about 165lbs for a while but partially had to do with a changing in the amount of carbs this week. Did a two hour mountain biking run, ROUGH, did chest/back the day before and definetely didn't have the glycogen for it; but got through it somehow.

Its a 'lil past mid week 4 and yesterday night I was sitting at 163lbs; stopped by the gym today and weighed 165 with full clothes on (guessing im around 160-163). I plan on continuing one more week [week5] after this and then will maintain for now.
(Going to Spain on Vacation for about a week then hitting the gym hard for bulk up when I get home)

Sides/Condition/Mood--
Erase Pro: Haven't had any major joint pain at all, especially after supplementing in joint support about week 2; no other neg sides.
Oxy Elite Pro & DAA: Nothing too bad from these either, just noticed about midday when its time for the 2nd OEP dose is when I usually start to feel tired, the dose fixes that (obv probably the caffeine).

Pretty happy with the results so far.: Just about -20 pounds lost in 4 weeks--starting to reintroduce regular carbs to balance things out

 

[Drizzie88]

Congrats dude... -20 is huge...

 

[Drizzie88]

Let's see some pics... I know you have some because I took them

 

[lumipz]

Week One rear lat Vs. Week Four

 

[lumipz]

Week 2 Calves vs Week 4

 

[Drizzie88]

<img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54854"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54855"/>

Week One rear lat Vs. Week Four

The bat!!

 

[lumipz]

About half-way through last week of cut-cycle (Week 4.5)--

Had great progress down from about 180lbs to 160lbs. Going on vacation to Spain for a week and then starting a bulk-up cycle again after getting home trying to make some serious gains. Taking a week-to two off, of serious lifting to relax first. Gym full time will be my new job :147:

Latest pic of traps: (Working on my side-chest ones)

 

[Drizzie88]

MUST BE NICE TO GET OUT OF THE MILITARY AND BE ABLE TO RUN CYCLES WHENEVER YOU WANT. I HOPE YOUR NUTS SHRINK .

Congrats bro, you busted your ass and I know it because I was there to witness it the whole way.

BTW, traps look sexy... let me get some tips.

 

[rome32]

Keep up the good work bro!

 

[BPjohn123]

Great job