EXTREME FAT LOSS STACK

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  1. EXTREME FAT LOSS STACK


    Hi there, i'm actually at 8 % of bf and have to arrive to a contest level (4-5 %). I was interested in the product ALPHA-T2 but have some doubts about it:

    - Is it 3,3'-diiodo-l-thyronine safe?
    - Is it effective? (reading some blogs i found out that is less effective than 3,5 and some people found it not effective in terms of fat loss)

    I would like to have some feeds from some expert users that used this product. If i decide to go with it i would stack it with some other product...any suggestion? (not with oxy elite pro 'cause i just finished a cycle of it)

    PS: In particular i would like to stack it with a product that can help you to keep you on your diet plan (hunger suppression)


  2. We wouldn't sell it if we didn't think it was safe.

    Originally the choice for 3,3-diiodothyronine was because it didn't negatively effect TSH like 3,5 did so there was no reason to suspect possible weight rebound after finishing the product.

    Our product Shift is solely a 3,3 product at the same dose as Alpha-T2 but without the rauwolscine and higenamine. Here are a few reviews of that product in particular that will help you address the "does 3,3 cause fat loss" concern.

    PES SHIFT Reviews

    Alpha-T2 is a stronger product and the rauwolscine and higenamine combination is effective for appetite suppression in most users. If you have used one bottle of OEP I would probably extend the run and add Alpha-T2 for the "Get Up and Go Stack".

    I hope this helps.

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  3. Thx for the answer ... i would like to know if you have any suggestion with other products different from OXY (i found it very good in terms of fat loss but i really don't like the 1,3 dim feeling). What you think about adding one of those products :
    - D4TS from CELLUCOR
    - ANIMAL CUTS
    - CRAZE from DS (i know is a pre-w but i think it can replace the stims from a thermo)
    If you have in mind any other product u found really good and effective in terms of fat loss and hunger supp. feel free to write it .
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  4. alpha t2,erase pro. eat damn well and sleep well with hard training.
    minimise refined carbs as they increase estrogen (fat storing hormone)
    lots of veggies (think broccoli-"I3C")
    lift heavy and light cardio...Boost test, balance and lower estrogen, the alpha yohimbine in t2 will kill love handles.
    When done, 4 weeks off and start something new
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  5. thx for the suggestions but my diet and workouts are actually really good ... i'm at 8% of bf and to arrive to a contest shape like 4 % without losing mass you have to trick your body and i just wanted to know if someone has any good thermo in mind different from oxy to add to the ALPHA-T2 .

    PS: About erase or other anabolic/testo boosters i'm off cycle now

  6. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88 View Post
    Thx for the answer ... i would like to know if you have any suggestion with other products different from OXY (i found it very good in terms of fat loss but i really don't like the 1,3 dim feeling). What you think about adding one of those products :
    - D4TS from CELLUCOR
    - ANIMAL CUTS
    - CRAZE from DS (i know is a pre-w but i think it can replace the stims from a thermo)
    If you have in mind any other product u found really good and effective in terms of fat loss and hunger supp. feel free to write it .
    Are you looking for a low stimulant product or high stimulant without 1,3-DMAA?
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  7. Well i prefer products that give you a strong focus, concentration and clean energy without causing jitters , accelerated heartbeat and anxious feelings. In this sense i prefer low stims products but feel free to tell both your options of products (low stim way and high stim way). Thx again

  8. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88
    Well i prefer products that give you a strong focus, concentration and clean energy without causing jitters , accelerated heartbeat and anxious feelings. In this sense i prefer low stims products but feel free to tell both your options of products (low stim way and high stim way). Thx again
    Alpha t2 with erase. Done!

    If wanting high stim
    Pro XT-500 with green tea, TTA and raspberry Ketones. Or even OEP with alpha t2. Or alpha t2 and pro XT...that would be sick
    Experiences with GDA? Slin sane to make
    Most of carbs while restricted and lots of bcaa's.
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  9. I think if you are aiming for 4% body fat without losing muscle you need to focus on the anti-catabolic side rather than the stimulant side. I would go with Chris's advice (runner_79) and add in Erase Pro.

    I am very reluctant to use strong fat burners at lower percentage body fat levels without trying to minimise muscle loss. I would make that the focus of your second product.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    I think if you are aiming for 4% body fat without losing muscle you need to focus on the anti-catabolic side rather than the stimulant side. I would go with Chris's advice (runner_79) and add in Erase Pro.

    I am very reluctant to use strong fat burners at lower percentage body fat levels without trying to minimise muscle loss. I would make that the focus of your second product.
    Cortisol from stims will whack his Cort up...

    Maybe use a pre workout like body octane with hemavol...pumps, energy and endurance and stim free...

    Thanks Ben
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I am very reluctant to use strong fat burners at lower percentage body fat levels without trying to minimise muscle loss. I would make that the focus of your second product.
    I'm actually taking LEAN X (DS) and i'm finding it very good in terms of anticatabolic effects.
    Also taking Anabolic Pump as GDA.
    Other supplements i take : ALCAR (SAN), ANIMAL PAK, HUMAPRO (ALRI), OMEGA 3 (NATROL)

  12. Look into alphaburn by genomyx with cheap ECA stack
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  13. I would say shift with ephedra (pyroburn and methyldrene25 r my fav)

    Or at2 with animal cuts. But cuts has the diuretic so make sure u time it right to peak... U don't wanna end before your contest and gain back all the water lol. One can of cuts lasts 21 days.. I love thst stuff. 2shredded is legit too n I have personally used both with at2 w great success.
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  14. Alpha-T2 and Erase Pro will give you what you're after.
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  15. As Kev and others state,
    Alpha t2 with erase pro is where it's at natty wise. Harder step is moving to a Clen or albuterol method but not to be taken lightly
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  16. I think he said he doesn't want to use erase or anything to manipulate hormones..
    "no failure is final, nor is any success"

  17. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I think he said he doesn't want to use erase or anything to manipulate hormones..
    Yes i'm now on off cycle from anabolic supplements and i'm not a big fan of them...at the end i think i'll give a try to the stack ALPHA-T2 + D4TS (CELLUCOR) or + ANIMAL CUTS (my doubt is that is not so "new" in terms of formula innovations).
    I have to choose one of them 'cause in my country is really difficult to have the new products that arrive in the market in the moment they are released from the companies (always we have to wait a lot for a new product).

  18. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88
    Yes i'm now on off cycle from anabolic supplements and i'm not a big fan of them...at the end i think i'll give a try to the stack ALPHA-T2 + D4TS (CELLUCOR) or + ANIMAL CUTS (my doubt is that is not so "new" in terms of formula innovations).
    I have to choose one of them 'cause in my country is really difficult to have the new products that arrive in the market in the moment they are released from the companies (always we have to wait a lot for a new product).
    What country?
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  19. I live in Italy

  20. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88
    I live in Italy
    I'll bring you some when I visit family in Sicily
    "no failure is final, nor is any success"

  21. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza

    I'll bring you some when I visit family in Sicily
    I'm half Italian. Mum is Italian. Voltaleen region (north mountains)
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by runner_79

    I'm half Italian. Mum is Italian. Voltaleen region (north mountains)
    Nice. I'm 100%.. Not one non full blooded in Thr faniky tree legit. I'm gonna be the first to break that if I marry my current gf lol. My last name is Ferrari
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I'm 100%..
    Nice ... how did u go in usa to live? I'm planning to move there too next year

  24. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88
    Nice ... how did u go in usa to live? I'm planning to move there too next year
    No I was born here. My whole blood line Is 100% my grandparents came here in The 1950's

    But good luck, where are you planning to move?
    "no failure is final, nor is any success"

  25. Depending on which university accept my application ... i asked for few universities in Florida and California

  26. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88
    Depending on which university accept my application ... i asked for few universities in Florida and California
    Nice good luck
    "no failure is final, nor is any success"

  27. Quote Originally Posted by WHEY88 View Post
    Depending on which university accept my application ... i asked for few universities in Florida and California
    Which ones in Florida?
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Which ones in Florida?
    University of Miami School of Business Administration and Florida International University .

  29. nice!
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  30. Even though this thread was a week or so ago, I've got a question someone from this thread could answer. I'm stacking anabeta/alpha-t2 for the first time right now (love it btw) and I'm wondering if I could start a clen cycle right after I get off alpha-t2. Would this be too much for he beta receptors? Hoping to run clen soon stacked with erase pro/anabeta

  31. Quote Originally Posted by STFUANDTRAIN View Post
    Even though this thread was a week or so ago, I've got a question someone from this thread could answer. I'm stacking anabeta/alpha-t2 for the first time right now (love it btw) and I'm wondering if I could start a clen cycle right after I get off alpha-t2. Would this be too much for he beta receptors? Hoping to run clen soon stacked with erase pro/anabeta

    You could if you wanted, but you'd just need to be careful with it and take appropriate time off to avoid receptor downregulation.

    What are your goals?
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  32. At 225lbs. now with 12% bodyfat and want to get down to 215-220. Just trying to have the most vascular and defined physicue I can. Last year I got down to 7% bf so hoping to reach my goals this year. When you say I could if I wanted but would have to take appropiate time off what do you mean by that? My clen cycle will be 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and repeat twice. Total of 6 weeks taking it.

  33. Quote Originally Posted by STFUANDTRAIN View Post
    At 225lbs. now with 12% bodyfat and want to get down to 215-220. Just trying to have the most vascular and defined physicue I can. Last year I got down to 7% bf so hoping to reach my goals this year. When you say I could if I wanted but would have to take appropiate time off what do you mean by that? My clen cycle will be 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and repeat twice. Total of 6 weeks taking it.
    Exactly that, two on two off.
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  34. Thanks man, always have the answers.

  35. Quote Originally Posted by STFUANDTRAIN View Post
    Thanks man, always have the answers.

    Lol, no problem bro.
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  36. Quick question... Does anyone know if the formula for AT2 has changed since 12 months ago? It got me pretty tweaked out for the first time yesterday.
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  37. Yes, higenamine replaced methyl synephrine.

    If you search for "beta stim" they are our logs on higenamine as the new beta agonist.

    This was ages ago though, keep up!
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  38. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    Yes, higenamine replaced methyl synephine.

    If you search for "beta stim" they are our logs on higenamine as the new beta agonist.

    This was ages ago though, keep up!
    I miss the ms version
    "no failure is final, nor is any success"

  39. Do you prefer methyl synephrine to higenamine?
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  40. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    Yes, higenamine replaced methyl synephrine.

    If you search for "beta stim" they are our logs on higenamine as the new beta agonist.

    This was ages ago though, keep up!
    I was one of the beta testers for beta stim, lol. It didn't make me feel like this, Haha. I like this new AT2 i really feel it working, and I feel like I'm seeing results after like two days. It's awesome.
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