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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
    It's not that he doesn't like you... it's that he doesn't understand your high tea emails. he has to forward them all to me, I translate, then send back. That takes time!
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    It's not that he doesn't like you... it's that he doesn't understand your high tea emails. he has to forward them all to me, I translate, then send back. That takes time!
    Sometimes I'm cc'ed too, but just for the lulz
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  3. Are the ingredients on *** page correct ?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by GQNemesis View Post
    Are the ingredients on *** page correct ?

    They are now.
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    So what is that last ingredient, I'm not good at identifying hormones or precursors..

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    So what is that last ingredient, I'm not good at identifying hormones or precursors..
    It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by daft205
    It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
    So how does this compare to erase, what are it's supposed effects and is a post cycle needed? Perhaps 4-8 weeks of ab elite followed by 4-8 weeks erase ? Or could they be used together?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    They are now.

    Thank u buddy

    let's get the same promotion going how u guys did for erase pro

    That'd be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet lol
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    So how does this compare to erase, what are it's supposed effects and is a post cycle needed? Perhaps 4-8 weeks of ab elite followed by 4-8 weeks erase ? Or could they be used together?
    Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by daft205
    Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
    Thjats right up my alley.. I'm not sure how to utilize this stuff though ... With erase, without, cycling / stack suggestions. Hopefully some PES reps can shed some light on how to use this stuff?
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by daft205
    It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
    I thought it was an 800 number.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by daft205 View Post
    Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
    Cortisol is catabolic, as im sure you are aware. We put it in the formula because excess cortisol levels are known to increase protein breakdown and reduce protein synthesis. Using 7oh increases the ratio of muscle protein synthesis to protein breakdown, and thus allows us to achieve a greater anabolic state.

    Forskolin increases cAMP levels which activates protein kinase A, an enzyme thats shown to have androgen receptor effects independent of an androgen. cAMP is also a signal for steroidogenesis in the testes, which results in increased testosterone production.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Thjats right up my alley.. I'm not sure how to utilize this stuff though ... With erase, without, cycling / stack suggestions. Hopefully some PES reps can shed some light on how to use this stuff?
    Anabeta Elite is meant to be used mainly as a stand alone purely anabolic compound. It can be used during PCT to maintain any gains made on cycle, and the addition of forskolin will help enhance testosterone production in the post cycle period.

    Erase can be stacked since the cortisol inhibiting effects of it and 7oh are competitive. I would use Erase if i wanted to keep everything leaner/drier vs Anabeta Elite alone.
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  14. How am I just now finding out about this...

  15. Quote Originally Posted by thestein1016 View Post
    How am I just now finding out about this...
    because PES still hasnt made an official announcement

  16. Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    because PES still hasnt made an official announcement

    Its coming.
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  17. So would u say something like 4-8 weeks elite stand alone followed by 4-8 weeks erase.

    No other t boosting support would be needed with elite? Perhaps endosurge or some natty t booster?
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  19. Endosurge is fine to stack with it, although if you are estrogen sensitive I would recommend erase as Forksolin will increase aromataze enzyme activation.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    So would u say something like 4-8 weeks elite stand alone followed by 4-8 weeks erase.

    No other t boosting support would be needed with elite? Perhaps endosurge or some natty t booster?
    i plan on giving AB Elite a run for the money. totally stand alone. i was was pretty damn satisfied with the original, but never did it completely stand alone. the closest i came was running it 2 weeks solo then adding in a few other goodies - namely erase.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by andrew732
    Endosurge is fine to stack with it, although if you are estrogen sensitive I would recommend erase as Forksolin will increase aromataze enzyme activation.
    Yea. I'm verrery sensitive. I've been using prometheus rising -daa+forskolin n agmatine n r ala. 2 weeks I was ok, then 3 n 4 nasty estrogen sides.. Just started erase 2 days ago n water retention is way down.

    I will def use elite stand alone but have erase on hand. I'm assuming erase pro would be ok as well?

  22. Damn picking this up for sure. Will there be in intro deal like before? I sitll havent signed up for the insider mailing list do I do that from the PES website?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bdcc
    Shh, you haven't heard this yet!
    U made me waste my money?
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  24. Definitely in for this!

  25. Profile Looks good, I wonder how much anacyclus pyrethrum extract is in every 2 pills as ironically this reminds me of a Anabeta and Driven Sports Lean Xtreme put together. Would it be better to do Anabeta + Lean Xtreme or Anabeta Elite when it comes to content of the main ingredient and amounts of 7-OH and Coleous Forkskolii.


    Anabeta: 1600mg anacyclus pyrethrum in 2 pills, 3200mg total at 4 caps a day for 30 day run.


    Lean Xtreme: Per Cap: 395mg blend of
    Green Tea Extract (50% EGCG), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), Phosphatidylserine 45%, 5-AT (5-Etioallocholen-3b,7b,17b-tiol), 7OH (3b,7b-dihydroxy-5-Etioallocholen-17-one)


    This means you get 1185mg a day given 3 caps a day for a 30 day run. Both combined is 4385mg/day total combo of Anabeta and Lean Xtreme.


    Anabeta Elite:
    1625mg per 2 cap: Anacyclus pyrethrum D.C. (root) Extract 95% Forskolin (Standardized from Coleus forskohlii)5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one

    Puts us at 3250mg total blend per day.

    My thoughts: Anabeta Elite has a higher extract of Forskolin which is great and excludes 5-AT, this looks like a great recomp product when tied up with Erase and Erase Pro or by itself! Great Job PES!




  26. Quote Originally Posted by Ando55
    Profile Looks good, I wonder how much anacyclus pyrethrum extract is in every 2 pills as ironically this reminds me of a Anabeta and Driven Sports Lean Xtreme put together. Would it be better to do Anabeta + Lean Xtreme or Anabeta Elite when it comes to content of the main ingredient and amounts of 7-OH and Coleous Forkskolii.

    Anabeta: 1600mg anacyclus pyrethrum in 2 pills, 3200mg total at 4 caps a day for 30 day run.

    Lean Xtreme: Per Cap: 395mg blend of
    Green Tea Extract (50% EGCG), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), Phosphatidylserine 45%, 5-AT (5-Etioallocholen-3b,7b,17b-tiol), 7OH (3b,7b-dihydroxy-5-Etioallocholen-17-one)

    This means you get 1185mg a day given 3 caps a day for a 30 day run. Both combined is 4385mg/day total combo of Anabeta and Lean Xtreme.

    Anabeta Elite:
    1625mg per 2 cap: Anacyclus pyrethrum D.C. (root) Extract 95% Forskolin (Standardized from Coleus forskohlii)5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one

    Puts us at 3250mg total blend per day.

    My thoughts: Anabeta Elite has a higher extract of Forskolin which is great and excludes 5-AT, this looks like a great recomp product when tied up with Erase and Erase Pro or by itself! Great Job PES!
    So elite could be safely run with erase or pro without lowering cortisol or estrogen dangerously? How about 4 weeks elite followed by 8 weeks pro?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    So elite could be safely run with erase or pro without lowering cortisol or estrogen dangerously? How about 4 weeks elite followed by 8 weeks pro?
    I would say you can run with Erase/Erase Pro since 7-OH is known mostly for lowering cortisol and not aromatase, as Andrew732 stated and yourself mentioned, keep the Estrogen down via Erase/Erase Pro due to Forskohlii raising the enzyme up. 4 weeks elite + Erase/Erase Pro and then 4 weeks Erase/ Erase Pro alone perhaps sounds good.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Ando55

    I would say you can run with Erase/Erase Pro since 7-OH is known mostly for lowering cortisol and not aromatase, as Andrew732 stated and yourself mentioned, keep the Estrogen down via Erase/Erase Pro due to Forskohlii raising the enzyme up. 4 weeks elite + Erase/Erase Pro and then 4 weeks Erase/ Erase Pro alone perhaps sounds good.
    yea that was my next thought. Nice. Super excited

  29. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Yea. I'm verrery sensitive. I've been using prometheus rising -daa+forskolin n agmatine n r ala. 2 weeks I was ok, then 3 n 4 nasty estrogen sides.. Just started erase 2 days ago n water retention is way down.

    I will def use elite stand alone but have erase on hand. I'm assuming erase pro would be ok as well?
    Yes Erase Pro is fine. Erase pro is just a plus lol
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  30. Forskolin increases testosterone. Anything that increases testosterone will create a small amount, since E is created from T. If anyone is worried about it they can simply use Erase.

    Anabete Elite will be great stand alone, just a matter of time before the logs start popping up.
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