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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Nah, Natty is just secretive about that sorts of stuff for reasons like this, I don't think this was supposed to be leaked LOL. Natty knows just like me that humans are overly social creatures that tend leak important information.
    It's pretty predictable.... Erase Pro? Yeah couldn't see that happening to other single ingredient products, could we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trenbologna View Post
    It's pretty predictable.... Erase Pro? Yeah couldn't see that happening to other single ingredient products, could we?
    So much animosity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    So much animosity.
    Yes, with so much animosity I buy some from nutraplanet.

    Lets not pretend we were too surprised to see it. However, I didn't say it wasn't an interesting product.
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    Just wanted to reiterate that the single ingredient products are not going anywhere, if anyone was wondering
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Just wanted to reiterate that the single ingredient products are not going anywhere, if anyone was wondering

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    =0 exciting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone

    Give me Anabeta Elite or Give me Death!
    Give me a wheel barrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Nah, Natty is just secretive about that sorts of stuff for reasons like this, I don't think this was supposed to be leaked LOL. Natty knows just like me that humans are overly social creatures that tend leak important information.
    We have known about this for months, we even met up for a coffee and talked about it a few weeks back. Didn't you get your invite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Nah, Natty is just secretive about that sorts of stuff for reasons like this, I don't think this was supposed to be leaked LOL. Natty knows just like me that humans are overly social creatures that tend leak important information.
    No qualms, buddy. Just tried to pull your legs.
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    Excited to see what's in this and how good it will go with Erase Pro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    No qualms, buddy. Just tried to pull your legs.
    Pull harder

    But be careful if you try to pull bdcc's leg; it's very smooth and you might lose grip
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Pull harder

    But be careful if you try to pull bdcc's leg; it's very smooth and you might lose grip
    Advice taken. Thanks for sharing your experience!
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    NattyD is hiding from us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    NattyD is hiding from us!
    I'm holding him hostage, trying to extract information.. Hes one tough mudder
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    I'm holding him hostage, for extract information.. Hes one tough mudder
    Fixed

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    Duplicate, sorry
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    Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
    I hope the latter is not the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
    He has been talking with stxnas and is feeling a little more anti-international, himself.

    He told me you got really egotistical ever since you became famous

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    Quote Originally Posted by stankyleg View Post
    I don't know if I can handle an improved version. My nuts got huge on this stuff. Monkey brains was the name I gave them. Maybe the new version could come with a coupon for 20 dollars off of a wheel barrow so I'll have something to carry my balls in.
    This alone can sell me on Anabeta, rofl! I'm rolling bro with what you said!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
    It's not that he doesn't like you... it's that he doesn't understand your high tea emails. he has to forward them all to me, I translate, then send back. That takes time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    It's not that he doesn't like you... it's that he doesn't understand your high tea emails. he has to forward them all to me, I translate, then send back. That takes time!
    Sometimes I'm cc'ed too, but just for the lulz
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    Are the ingredients on *** page correct ?
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    Are the ingredients on *** page correct ?

    They are now.
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    So what is that last ingredient, I'm not good at identifying hormones or precursors..
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
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    So what is that last ingredient, I'm not good at identifying hormones or precursors..
    It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daft205
    It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
    So how does this compare to erase, what are it's supposed effects and is a post cycle needed? Perhaps 4-8 weeks of ab elite followed by 4-8 weeks erase ? Or could they be used together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    They are now.

    Thank u buddy

    let's get the same promotion going how u guys did for erase pro

    That'd be sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    So how does this compare to erase, what are it's supposed effects and is a post cycle needed? Perhaps 4-8 weeks of ab elite followed by 4-8 weeks erase ? Or could they be used together?
    Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daft205
    Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
    Thjats right up my alley.. I'm not sure how to utilize this stuff though ... With erase, without, cycling / stack suggestions. Hopefully some PES reps can shed some light on how to use this stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by daft205
    It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
    I thought it was an 800 number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daft205 View Post
    Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
    Cortisol is catabolic, as im sure you are aware. We put it in the formula because excess cortisol levels are known to increase protein breakdown and reduce protein synthesis. Using 7oh increases the ratio of muscle protein synthesis to protein breakdown, and thus allows us to achieve a greater anabolic state.

    Forskolin increases cAMP levels which activates protein kinase A, an enzyme thats shown to have androgen receptor effects independent of an androgen. cAMP is also a signal for steroidogenesis in the testes, which results in increased testosterone production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Thjats right up my alley.. I'm not sure how to utilize this stuff though ... With erase, without, cycling / stack suggestions. Hopefully some PES reps can shed some light on how to use this stuff?
    Anabeta Elite is meant to be used mainly as a stand alone purely anabolic compound. It can be used during PCT to maintain any gains made on cycle, and the addition of forskolin will help enhance testosterone production in the post cycle period.

    Erase can be stacked since the cortisol inhibiting effects of it and 7oh are competitive. I would use Erase if i wanted to keep everything leaner/drier vs Anabeta Elite alone.
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    How am I just now finding out about this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thestein1016 View Post
    How am I just now finding out about this...
    because PES still hasnt made an official announcement
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    Quote Originally Posted by steppinRazor View Post
    because PES still hasnt made an official announcement

    Its coming.
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    So would u say something like 4-8 weeks elite stand alone followed by 4-8 weeks erase.

    No other t boosting support would be needed with elite? Perhaps endosurge or some natty t booster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    Its coming.
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    Endosurge is fine to stack with it, although if you are estrogen sensitive I would recommend erase as Forksolin will increase aromataze enzyme activation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    So would u say something like 4-8 weeks elite stand alone followed by 4-8 weeks erase.

    No other t boosting support would be needed with elite? Perhaps endosurge or some natty t booster?
    i plan on giving AB Elite a run for the money. totally stand alone. i was was pretty damn satisfied with the original, but never did it completely stand alone. the closest i came was running it 2 weeks solo then adding in a few other goodies - namely erase.
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