Erase/Anabeta Question.

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I just finished 8 weeks of Erase. Is it okay to go right into Anabeta? Sorry, if this has already been discussed, I just don't have time to go through all the threads. thanks.
 
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In a few words, yes, thats fine.
 
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I just finished 8 weeks of Erase. Is it okay to go right into Anabeta? Sorry, if this has already been discussed, I just don't have time to go through all the threads. thanks.
Absolutely. You can even continue with Erase for your AnaBeta run if you wanted to.

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Thanks for the replies. Rosie, you sure about that? it says in the directions we need to take 4 weeks off after an 8 week run.
 
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Yes, 8 weeks on followed by 4 weeks off is our general guideline. This is mainly because your body is constantly striving to maintain homeostasis, which results in diminishing returns from many ergogenics after too long.
 

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oh I forgot to mention that I am starting DAA too. I thought that would be okay since Erase is not suppressive.
 
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8 weeks on 4 weeks of for Erase. Its not a matter if suppression. All ergogenic supplements like Erase should be cycled
 

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What if u taper and stretch it to 9/9.5 weeks? If there's no suppression, hypothetically you could stay on til u stop noticing effects, then take your 4 weeks off! This is the hardest 4 weeks of being off a supp ever! Can't wait for sept 2!
 
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What if u taper and stretch it to 9/9.5 weeks? If there's no suppression, hypothetically you could stay on til u stop noticing effects, then take your 4 weeks off! This is the hardest 4 weeks of being off a supp ever! Can't wait for sept 2!
Hypothetically speaking, yeah you could stretch it if the gains are still coming. 8 weeks is just usually around the point where things begin to slow, your body will be attempting to reach homeostasis so its best to cycle off around this point. Some users have ventured beyond the 8 week guideline sans ill effect, but if you want to keep things going great its best to give your body time off.
 

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Yea. On my 7th week at 4xday I was loving it like no words to describe my results! Then 8 weeks came n I started to taper.. Feel like I could have gotten another full week of 4xday then taper for week 9.. Well see, starting again in sept so depending how the days fall I may stretch it to 9 weeks (tapering) n overlapping with anabeta!! Can't wait
 
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Great feedback! :)
 
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Thanks for the replies. Rosie, you sure about that? it says in the directions we need to take 4 weeks off after an 8 week run.
No worries :) The recommendation is that, yes, but I don't see why you can't do another four weeks before taking a break. Otherwise, using one bottle of AnaBeta standalone you could do, and then stack Erase with a second bottle.

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Ok first let me say I used erase over the summer with Great success and loved it which is y I chose to use it again for sept+October after doing 4 weeks off.

That being said, over the summer while using erase, I noticed some marked difficulty breathing/inability to complete satisfying deep breathes... This has Bren happening more this second time around w erase (erase Is the ONLY variable I'm positive) I have also added Ana beta for the last 4 weeks of this run and the breathing has only gotten worse! These two supps r the only ones that r different from my staples back in the summer..

Obviously I love the effects of these products but being unable to breath properly Is not worth it... I'm wondering if anyone can relate to these experiences.. Could it be dose related? I take 4 ersase daily and 4 AB.. Could the 4 be lowering estrogen too much? That I am actually hurting my levels and causing adverse effects? Thank you very much. I love the company, just looking out trying not to be foolish or ignorant.
 
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If you have used it before without sides then I would go to a doctor and discontinue use. This is not a common side effect at all and as easy as it would be to give a typical rep palm off answer I would prefer you put your health first until you are absolutely sure what the problem is.
 

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If you have used it before without sides then I would go to a doctor and discontinue use. This is not a common side effect at all and as easy as it would be to give a typical rep palm off answer I would prefer you put your health first until you are absolutely sure what the problem is.
Went to dr. He told me it's most likely anxiety! I was like uh no screw u , I have insurance test me!

I'm getting pft (pulmonary function test)

Echo cardiogram

And stress test over the next week n a half. I kinda don't want to stop taking anything because I'm mentally (and I fear for other reasons, physically addicted) to supps like stims and test boosters... I also have endocrine apt but not til December 1st :(

Fear of thyroid issues from over use of stims and hormonal issues from prolonged use of test boosters/anti estros/steroids
 
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I understand the psychological element to this problem. Ultimately if you stay on them because you have a dependence on a certain type of supplement that is your call, it is far from a company rep to give advice on something this complex.

I wish I could help more on it but when it comes to medical conditions and your health the most responsible advice we can give is no advice. If you think it is something in the PES line you only have the option of discontinuing it until you find out what is wrong.
 

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I understand the psychological element to this problem. Ultimately if you stay on them because you have a dependence on a certain type of supplement that is your call, it is far from a company rep to give advice on something this complex.

I wish I could help more on it but when it comes to medical conditions and your health the most responsible advice we can give is no advice. If you think it is something in the PES line you only have the option of discontinuing it until you find out what is wrong.
Totally agree n understand.. Wondering if anyone elde has experienced this at all.. Whether or not it's related to s certain supp or not.. It's Just bizarre.. I run about 15 miles a week interval style plus lift 4 days.. I Just can't breath right any more n am up all night!
 

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Then 8 weeks came n I started to taper..
Use
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next time :joke:

Sounds like time to take a nice month break from all supps
And gear - AAS,PH and SARM-s !
Are you using ... right now? AAS,PH's ..S4,Ostarine?
AAS/PH+heavy steams combo can cause breathing/BP problems , even SARM's+heavy steams combo is not safe especially if you had breathing/BP issues in the past!
 

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Use <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=45988"/> next time :joke:

And gear - AAS,PH and SARM-s !
Are you using ... right now? AAS,PH's ..S4,Ostarine?
AAS/PH+heavy steams combo can cause breathing/BP problems , even SARM's+heavy steams combo is not safe especially if you had breathing/BP issues in the past!
Hmm??

All I'm on is Anabeta, erase, oxy elite and reduction am...

I was home all weekend and was fine.. I think it's allergies to something in my building at school. I'll sue these ****ers! Watch your mouth!
 

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Fear of thyroid issues from over use of stims and hormonal issues from prolonged use of test boosters/anti estros/steroids
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I kinda don't want to stop taking anything because I'm mentally (and I fear for other reasons, physically addicted) to supps like stims ..
That's why i said it-it was a friendly warning - didn't mean to offend you!I am addicted to coffee (4 strong espressos/day) and heavy steams and i do gear 2/year.I had BP and breathing problems before taking gear and streams at the same time-it was advice IF you're doing the same thing!
Good luck-best wishes !

Watch your mouth!
Always do- i'm a 150$/h lawyer :)
 

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That's why i said it-it was a friendly warning - didn't mean to offend you!I am addicted to coffee (4 strong espressos/day) and heavy steams and i do gear 2/year.I had BP and breathing problems before taking gear and streams at the same time-it was advice IF you're doing the same thing!
Good luck-best wishes !

Always do- i'm a 150$/h lawyer :)
The watch ur mouth was to myself cuz I said Fu*kers, about my school for all the mold lol
 
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So things have changed, or am I misreading?

I want updates either way please. It is nice to make sure you are ok.
 

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BDCC can you give us your 2c about "AnaBeta+Erase+Dpol+Ursobolic" combo? As i said a friend of mine is doing it and he loves it-he's leaning and recomping like he's on 40/d Epi.
Tnx
 
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With how new ursolic acid is (as a stand alone ingredient rather than just a formulation) there are no reviews past a few weeks of AnaBeta and Ursobolic so it is impossible to establish the synergy, let alone with the whole stack.

As a rep I am careful not to fall into the trap of saying our products stack well with anything because unless I have done it myself or know people that have I don't want to mislead customers.

Ursobolic and AnaBeta 'may' stack really well together, as they both have serious potential (ours in practice more than on paper as Ursobolic is, by EPharm's own admission a new supplement and doesn't have many reviews) to recomp they might not offer any additional synergy.

I have Ursobolic on the way (admittedly only one bottle) but can run the stack and provide some more precise feedback if you would like.

Ben
 

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So things have changed, or am I misreading?

I want updates either way please. It is nice to make sure you are ok.
It's on n off n I cannot pinpoint what's causing the inability to complete breaths.. At this point I'm thinking anxiety or mold poisoning from my school.. I have an echo cardiogram, pulmonary function test, and stress test scheduled over the next 10 days. Also getting basic blood results back tomorrow and endocrine apt December 1.

Thanks!
 

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BDCC can you give us your 2c about "AnaBeta+Erase+Dpol+Ursobolic" combo? As i said a friend of mine is doing it and he loves it-he's leaning and recomping like he's on 40/d Epi.
Tnx
Also interested in ursobolic! Gosh so much to try lol. Will look forward to your review, bdcc. What is dpol??
 
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Thank you. I am not sure how successful one bottle will be at the doses being recommended so I will play around with something lower and order more if I am intrigued.

D-Pol is new from Purus, DAA, nitrates and vitamin D3.
 

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