Night shift Erase/OEP/Alpha log

[sarguy]

I've finally got my Erase/OEP/Alpha stack assembled and will be starting it tomorrow. I thought I'd post a log here. While that's nothing original, I'll be running it while maintaining a seriously effed-up sleep schedule due to a night shift job and full-time school during the day.

Some basic info:
5'11"
Weight-227 lbs
BF% 21 (needs updated)
Goals: STOP BEING FATTY McFATNFAT!!!! (I've lost 30 lbs since october, have another 30 lbs to go) Shooting for 15% bodyfat and/or 200 lbs.

Diet-2000 cal 40/30/30 (a bit low by most standards, but i still have 30 lbs to shed)
Training: 3x/week Basic kettlebell stuff; swings, snatches, presses. Additional metabolic exercises vary based on the evilness of my training partner.

Supplements:
Creatine mono
whey protein (only to supplement whole food intake)
pre-workout caffeine/geranium/creatine drink
Alpha/OEP/Erase

Some additional background:
I get 3-5 hours of sleep a day during my 3 night rotation. Yes, I know that's way too little. (The irony of sleep techs getting too little sleep is not lost on us as a profession.) Of particular interest to me is what will happen when I end up staggering my supplementation around my sleep schedule. A typical day runs as follows:

bedtime: 0800
wake: 1100 (I plan on dosing Erase here)
Class from 1200-1500
Workout from 1600-1700 OR Back to sleep from 1500-1730
Work from 1830-0730 (take "morning" doses of the alpha and OEP)

I'm hesitant to take a bunch of stims at 1100 if there's a good chance I can go back to sleep three hours later, which does happen ever so often. Thus, I'd probably end up starting the daily round of supps at roughly 18:30. (of course, there's my days off, which are more or less normal, but let's not go there just yet.)
I am aware that AT2 should be taken on an empty stomach, but with all the stims it'll have to be prior to my evening meal, rather than upon waking.

I'm planning on ditching the pre-workout drink since the OEP has very similar ingredients in it.

I'll update as time and progress allow.

[Rosie Chee]

Watching.

I've personally never had any issues dosing Alpha-T2 and going to sleep, so you might want to try dosing 1-2 caps of Alpha-T2 at 1100 on your non-working days and see how it affects you.

Still use creatine pre-training.

Otherwise, all the best

~Rosie~

[sarguy]

Thanks, Rosie. I'll give it a whirl and see how it goes. It would be great if I could start all the supplements at the same time (1100) instead of staggering them.

[Rosie Chee]

Thanks, Rosie. I'll give it a whirl and see how it goes. It would be great if I could start all the supplements at the same time (1100) instead of staggering them.

No worries

[sarguy]

Took one erase and one alpha today at 11 am. Had a protein shake 30 min later. Not really feeling much, but I'm pretty conditioned to stims.

[Rosie Chee]

Took one erase and one alpha today at 11 am. Had a protein shake 30 min later. Not really feeling much, but I'm pretty conditioned to stims.

Ok...Can I suggest for your 1100 dose over the next two days:

Day 2 - 2 caps Erase + 1 cap Alpha-T2

Day 3 - 2 caps Erase + 2 caps Alpha-T2

and see how you feel on each, to see what one will be best for you...

~Rosie~

[sarguy]

Rosie, your suggestions are always welcome I will try that and see how it goes. being so stim resustant, I'm debating on adding the OEP in on the 3rd day's morning dose and gradually increasing one cap a day to 3 caps

[Rosie Chee]

Rosie, your suggestions are always welcome I will try that and see how it goes. being so stim resustant, I'm debating on adding the OEP in on the 3rd day's morning dose and gradually increasing one cap a day to 3 caps

I am highly stim tolerant as well, and used the Day 3 dosing stacked with other stimulant products for a long time. Just know that just because you don't "feel" anything does not mean that the products are not working, and trust me, after about a week you'll notice and feel the difference they make (more noticeable when you STOP using them). If you're very stim tolerant, then you'd be fine adding in OEP - I would do this on Day 4 (i.e. 2 caps Erase + 2 caps Alpha-T2 + 1-2 caps OEP) and keep on dosing like that from then on.

~Rosie~

[nattydisaster]

Can a stack get any better?

[Rosie Chee]

Can a stack get any better?

Just replace the OEP with Shred Matrix

[sarguy]

I'll have to look into that when I'm done with this bottle of OEP. For now, I'll follow the above suggestions. Thanks for your input.

[malleus25]

I am new to this site as a poster but have been reading for a few months.
I will be following your log with some real interest. I am thinking of running Alpha/Erase with EC soon.

Wanna see how it does with OEP as I have used it before with decent results by its self.

[thebigt]

i find the erase even more beneficial to us night workers, statistically our cortisol is much higher. i have gotten really good results from it.


good luck with the 'stack'.

[sarguy]

i find the erase even more beneficial to us night workers, statistically our cortisol is much higher. i have gotten really good results from it.

The increased cortisol from night shifts and college stress is exactly why Erase interested me.

[thebigt]

The increased cortisol from night shifts and college stress is exactly why Erase interested me.

hope it works as well for you as it has for me.

[sarguy]

First day seems to be going well so far. At 1830 I took one each of the Alpha, Erase, and OEP (since I'll be up all night at work). I am feeling a bit of a warm sensation and a mild stim headache, but nothing disturbing. The only thing that has me going is the fact that things seem to be..."crap-tastic" all of a sudden. I've made three trips to the bathroom since arriving at work. Might be unrelated, and it's not accompanied by loose stools or abdominal pain/bloating, so I'm not concerned. I'm just feeling "moved" by this stack, I guess

If this keeps up I'll definitely lose some lbs, tho!

[Rosie Chee]

I'll have to look into that when I'm done with this bottle of OEP. For now, I'll follow the above suggestions. Thanks for your input.

No worries

I am new to this site as a poster but have been reading for a few months.
I will be following your log with some real interest. I am thinking of running Alpha/Erase with EC soon.

Wanna see how it does with OEP as I have used it before with decent results by its self.

Alpha-T2/Erase/EC should work well, and would be one of the best fat loss stacks out there IMO.

First day seems to be going well so far. At 1830 I took one each of the Alpha, Erase, and OEP (since I'll be up all night at work). I am feeling a bit of a warm sensation and a mild stim headache, but nothing disturbing. The only thing that has me going is the fact that things seem to be..."crap-tastic" all of a sudden. I've made three trips to the bathroom since arriving at work. Might be unrelated, and it's not accompanied by loose stools or abdominal pain/bloating, so I'm not concerned. I'm just feeling "moved" by this stack, I guess

If this keeps up I'll definitely lose some lbs, tho!

Interesting. Not sure it is the products though - I never experienced this.

~Rosie~

[sarguy]

Update: things are going ok so far. Weight is down to 224.5 since Tuesday. I'm tolerating the Erase and Alpha quite well, but the addition of the OEP induces a headache and makes me kind of a jerk. I had a similar experience when I tried wellbutrin a while back, and it just seemed to suck my seemed of humor out of me and reduce my tolerance of minor annoyances.

I will be trying the oep independent of other supplements; I suspect it's the geranium extract.

[Rosie Chee]

Update: things are going ok so far. Weight is down to 224.5 since Tuesday. I'm tolerating the Erase and Alpha quite well, but the addition of the OEP induces a headache and makes me kind of a jerk. I had a similar experience when I tried wellbutrin a while back, and it just seemed to suck my seemed of humor out of me and reduce my tolerance of minor annoyances.

I will be trying the oep independent of other supplements; I suspect it's the geranium extract.

Do a couple of days without using the OEP and see how you feel.

~Rosie~

[sarguy]

I'll give the OEP a miss over the weekend and see how it goes.