Night shift Erase/OEP/Alpha log

[hulkster]

Is this basically the same as taking Shift and Erase just without the added stim thats in Alpha-T2?

[nattydisaster]

Correct

[sarguy]

Another update: My appetite seems pretty adequately quelled, and the erase's cortisol-lowering effects seem pretty evident. I only got 1.5 hours of sleep between working last night and having to get up to take a bio exam, and usually I feel a lot more "weak" and/or "shagged out". Also, after a short nap this afternoon, my weight is now 222.2.

[Rosie Chee]

Is this basically the same as taking Shift and Erase just without the added stim thats in Alpha-T2?

He's using Erase and Alpha-T2. Shift is just the active in Alpha-T2, if that's what you're asking.

~Rosie~

[sarguy]

Update: 221.2 lbs this morning, post void. I skipped the OEP on saturday and today and had no headache or issues being a tool. Did cardio last night and a kettlebell/tireflip/sledgehammer workout today and felt pretty good.

I was talking w/ a friend who happened have similar mood issues w/ the OEP. The supp he changed to (which escapes me at the moment) has 5-htp in for "mood support". It got me thinking about adding just plain 5-htp or bioperine (I've seen mentioned re: mood support), but I don't want to interfere w/ the properties of erase or AT2. Any thoughts?

[Rosie Chee]

Update: 221.2 lbs this morning, post void. I skipped the OEP on saturday and today and had no headache or issues being a tool. Did cardio last night and a kettlebell/tireflip/sledgehammer workout today and felt pretty good.

I was talking w/ a friend who happened have similar mood issues w/ the OEP. The supp he changed to (which escapes me at the moment) has 5-htp in for "mood support". It got me thinking about adding just plain 5-htp or bioperine (I've seen mentioned re: mood support), but I don't want to interfere w/ the properties of erase or AT2. Any thoughts?

You could add something with those in fine - I've stacked both Erase and Alpha-T2 with products containing both.

~Rosie~

[thebigt]

Another update: My appetite seems pretty adequately quelled, and the erase's cortisol-lowering effects seem pretty evident. I only got 1.5 hours of sleep between working last night and having to get up to take a bio exam, and usually I feel a lot more "weak" and/or "shagged out". Also, after a short nap this afternoon, my weight is now 222.2.

i told you, lol. erase is great for people working night shift.

you know that high cortisol lowers test, right? so erase lowers estrogen and cort, plus increases test even more so for us guys who are going to have higher cort from working nights. i love the stuff!!!

[thajspot32]

I'm running the same stack as part of my PCT and so far I'm very pleased with the results

[nattydisaster]

great to hear

[sarguy]

Update: I've been waylayed by the flu for the last week. Could barely get out of bed today to drag my butt to the doc. So for now, I'm in a holding pattern, I guess.

[thebigt]

Update: I've been waylayed by the flu for the last week. Could barely get out of bed today to drag my butt to the doc. So for now, I'm in a holding pattern, I guess.

that sucks.

[sarguy]

Update:
I'm back to work and school, but the fatigue from the flu is still lingering, along w/ an annoying cough.
On monday I went to start the stack back up (didn't wanna mix the stack+abo+cold meds), only to find that my entire bottle of OEP has gone missing! I have no clue where or how, and the only other person around that stuff is my wife, who largely ignores my supplements. I strongly suspect it got knocked from off the shelf into the garbage. SUCK!

So this week I've been running AT2+erase without the OEP. I'm considering restarting EC to take OEP's place.

As far as what the stack seems to be doing, my weight is holding steady in the face of less-than perfect eating and a lack of regular workouts due to the flu. So I guess I'll call that a win for now.

[Rosie Chee]

Update:
I'm back to work and school, but the fatigue from the flu is still lingering, along w/ an annoying cough.
On monday I went to start the stack back up (didn't wanna mix the stack+abo+cold meds), only to find that my entire bottle of OEP has gone missing! I have no clue where or how, and the only other person around that stuff is my wife, who largely ignores my supplements. I strongly suspect it got knocked from off the shelf into the garbage. SUCK!

So this week I've been running AT2+erase without the OEP. I'm considering restarting EC to take OEP's place.

As far as what the stack seems to be doing, my weight is holding steady in the face of less-than perfect eating and a lack of regular workouts due to the flu. So I guess I'll call that a win for now.

Nice to see you back - take care of yourself, though, since you don't want recurrent bouts of sickness.

Alpha-T2 and Erase will be fine without the OEP. And yes, the stack works even with less-than-perfect nutrition and training (shhhhh....you didn't hear me say that), but it will work even better with optimal nutrition and training.

~Rosie~

[nattydisaster]

Hope you get back in full action!

[thebigt]

Update:
I'm back to work and school, but the fatigue from the flu is still lingering, along w/ an annoying cough.
On monday I went to start the stack back up (didn't wanna mix the stack+abo+cold meds), only to find that my entire bottle of OEP has gone missing! I have no clue where or how, and the only other person around that stuff is my wife, who largely ignores my supplements. I strongly suspect it got knocked from off the shelf into the garbage. SUCK!

So this week I've been running AT2+erase without the OEP. I'm considering restarting EC to take OEP's place.

As far as what the stack seems to be doing, my weight is holding steady in the face of less-than perfect eating and a lack of regular workouts due to the flu. So I guess I'll call that a win for now.

vitamin d3 can be very beneficial to us night shift guys. this year i have been mega dosing c and d3 and haven't been sick a day all winter-knock on wood.

[sarguy]

yeah, i've been a huge advocate for D3 use, and not just amongst the vampire set. in fact, this is the first time i've been down anything more than the sniffles since 2008.

If you get a chance, Google "Dr. Holick" and watch the 45 minute presentation on his site. Good stuff about Vit D.

[thebigt]

yeah, i've been a huge advocate for D3 use, and not just amongst the vampire set. in fact, this is the first time i've been down anything more than the sniffles since 2008.

If you get a chance, Google "Dr. Holick" and watch the 45 minute presentation on his site. Good stuff about Vit D.

good info.

[sarguy]

Update:

Just back from visiting family 2 1/2 hours away due to a family member falling gravely ill and ending up on a vent, near death, etc etc. It's been a week, I tell ya. Weight remaining the same, but a serious lack of sleep has sapped my motivation for anything more than 1-2 workouts a week, where I've been aiming for 3-4.

Oh, and funny thing, my OEP showed up in the vitamin drawer, which I thought I had searched quite thoroughly.

[samiisbe]

I feel you on the night shift schedule, i work a rotating shift, this is my night shift week. I've seen you guys have been talking about erase to help fight the cortisol and lowered test levels. I think i've only heard of this before as a PCT. Does it work pretty well to keep the "feeling like ass" feeling away? My work outs really suffer when i shift hours right after i've gotten used to a shift. Good luck with your weight loss, working out after that little sleep is way more hardcore than i can handle, i'll be following along for motivation

[Rosie Chee]

I feel you on the night shift schedule, i work a rotating shift, this is my night shift week. I've seen you guys have been talking about erase to help fight the cortisol and lowered test levels. I think i've only heard of this before as a PCT. Does it work pretty well to keep the "feeling like ass" feeling away? My work outs really suffer when i shift hours right after i've gotten used to a shift. Good luck with your weight loss, working out after that little sleep is way more hardcore than i can handle, i'll be following along for motivation

Erase is a natural testosterone booster with cortisol controlling properties - hence why it will "fight the cortisol and lowered test levels". PCT is not the only situation/time when you want to manage cortisol and increase testosterone levels.

~Rosie~