In the military

  1. In the military


    I'm in the army and i was thinking of do a Erase + Alpha-T2 + OxyElite Pro Stack but i am a bit worried that if i get a drug test while running this and a month or 2 after, would i test + on the drug test for anything?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by onidara View Post
    I'm in the army and i was thinking of do a Erase + Alpha-T2 + OxyElite Pro Stack but i am a bit worried that if i get a drug test while running this and a month or 2 after, would i test + on the drug test for anything?
    There's nothing in Alpha-T2 or Erase that would cause a positive drug test, even if the military checks for banned substances, etc.

    OEP contains 1,3-dimeth, which can cause a false positive for amphetamines though, just so you are aware.
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  3. ok but how long does it stay in your system once you stop taking it? Like my next piss test is around march i wanted to run that stack for dec, would it be out of my system by then?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by onidara View Post
    ok but how long does it stay in your system once you stop taking it?
    What? 1,3-dimeth? It really depends on how much you were using and how long you've been using it. I believe it has a half-life of anywhere from 4-8 hours, but to be on the safe side, you'd want to stop using it at least five days before your test - check out 1,3-Dimethylamylamine Detection Time?
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  5. hmm ok great so i don't have to worry about it, thank for clearing that up for me.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by onidara View Post
    hmm ok great so i don't have to worry about it, thank for clearing that up for me.
    No worries
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  7. Onidara:

    As Rosie stated nothing in those that will cause a positive drug test, with the exception of 1,3 Dim having the "possibility" of causing a false positive. Now, that being said, there is also nothing in those products that are on any military banned substance list. At least not to my knowledge and I do run the urinalysis program where I am at covering both Marine Corps and Navy personnel. Even with the possibility of 1,3 Dim to cause a false positive, it is very unlikely. I have been using products with it in it for years to include OEP and have taken drug tests with it active in my system and have never popped positive for anything. Nor has anyone else that I know who were taking it during drug tests. Hell, I'm pretty sure they sell OEP at the GNC here on the Joint Base I am on. At the most you would want to do when you take your test is when asked the question "are you taking any medications, supplements, OTC or otherwise" simply mention that you are taking OTC supplements. If you were to pop you would be able to easily clear it up. As I've said though, I've never seen anything like that happen though. So, in case you haven't picked up on my opinions man, you have nothing to worry about. Go ahead and rock out with the supps.
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  8. synephrine is simmilar to amphetamine and may cause a false positive reaction.... not sure about methyl synephrine...

  9. In the army yoir commander has to special request a banned substance test, and it will be sent to the olympic testing people. The turn around time is like 3 months or some such. The amount the army requires you to pee is less than the olympic guys and they will reject it if there isnt enoigh. So you will never get screwed in the army for "roids" unless your dumb about it.

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  10. Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    synephrine is simmilar to amphetamine and may cause a false positive reaction.... not sure about methyl synephrine...
    It wont cause a false positive

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  11. Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    In the army yoir commander has to special request a banned substance test, and it will be sent to the olympic testing people. The turn around time is like 3 months or some such. The amount the army requires you to pee is less than the olympic guys and they will reject it if there isnt enoigh. So you will never get screwed in the army for "roids" unless your dumb about it.

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    ^^^^good info
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  12. Even if it produced a false positive when it is sent to the lab for analysis via GS/MS they will see that it isn't amphetamines. You are good to go bro. Best thing if you are worried is to ask your legal section.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    It wont cause a false positive

    The the OP - you will be fine. Enjoy the stack and most of all STAY SAFE!
    Most likely will not cause a false positive, but it is.... phenylethylamine too(pea)....depends on the test... of course the company that makes the supp is gunna say its ok to take.. that's exactly what usp labs told me about 1,3 dimethlyamylamine... i happen to be on drug cout and I take 3 drug tests a week.. and i need to be very careful with what will come up in ly supplements.. there are HUNDREDS of supplements that can cause false/true positives.... I will just never forget about the two days i spent in jail over a false positive because a supplementcompany said it would be fine to take AND I BELIEVED HIM

  14. Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    synephrine is simmilar to amphetamine and may cause a false positive reaction.... not sure about methyl synephrine...
    Methyl synephrine will not cause you to test positive either.

    Quote Originally Posted by votum View Post
    In the army yoir commander has to special request a banned substance test, and it will be sent to the olympic testing people. The turn around time is like 3 months or some such. The amount the army requires you to pee is less than the olympic guys and they will reject it if there isnt enoigh. So you will never get screwed in the army for "roids" unless your dumb about it.

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    Correct.

    The military uses the Standard NIDA 5 panel screen which tests for the following:

    Cannabinoids (THC)
    Amphetamines (Cocaine)
    Methamphetamines (Meth, Ecstasy)
    Opiates (Heroin, opiate painkillers)
    Phencyclidine (PCP)
    and adds LSD

    Outside of that any other drug test does have to be specially requested by the commanding officer or criminal investigative service (this last one is usually when one is already in trouble). This includes all of the various banned substances such as the various prohormones and steroids. If one was being tested for those you would definitely know before hand as they would be required to notify you. In which case you may want to go ahead and speak with a lawyer if you are on something. The tests for these other substances are expensive and do take longer and almost always have to be sent to a drug lab outside of the military (the Navy/Marine Corps send the NIDA 5 panles to their to one of their two drug labs, San Diego or Norfolk (maybe Portsmouth) forget which for the latter). False positives are rare in the military, especially as the minimum concentration levels tested to in the military are at a higher threshold than those in the civilian and collegiate sectors including your average testing for work. In the civilian sector thresholds are set by SAMHSA which developed the Division of Workplace Programs specifically for the civilian workplace environment. Collegiate as we know is their own unique governing body and follows closely with the IOC.
    All the military branches follow near the same guidelines and standards for testing as they are set initially by DOD policy.

  15. I was in the ARMY for years and knew guys that used AAS and various other PED's throughout my enlistment....That was never an issue and a false positive for OTC supplements is very rare

  16. Haven't heard anything on this topic in a while. Would especially be nice to hear from military and law enforcement bros in the know. Any attempt to research this online simply returns the list that the military is now testing for synthetic marijuana, and then an article on usmilitary-about-com.

    This link lists the standard drugs for a 5-panel listed above, but also makes mention of several more substances in the "window period" section.
    At the very least, I know the 5-panel list is not correctly exhaustive. For instance, Benzodiazepines are tested for, and Spice has now made the list. At the advanced stages, of course, the military now employs a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test, which will burn you on just about anything, but that is not, typically, the first step.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by chrisrob05 View Post
    I was in the ARMY for years and knew guys that used AAS and various other PED's throughout my enlistment....That was never an issue and a false positive for OTC supplements is very rare
    This. I was running m1t and 1AD and **** loads of other stuff and never got tested. I would get tapped every pft for my weight and every time i was jacked and they would laugh when I take my shirt off because I obviously wasn't fat and send me on my marry way. I'm not sure if it's a random test or not, but I always just done what I was told and don't be ate up and you should be golden I would think...then again I never look into this stuff so take it for what it's worth lol.
  

  
 

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