Erase and females
- 01-28-2011, 04:16 PM
- 01-28-2011, 04:23 PM
01-28-2011, 04:37 PM
Quite a few of these types of people, at some point in their life, have seen a female body builder and assumed that she got that way simply by lifting a few weights and eating raw meat. How many times have you heard both males and females making statements about not wanting to get too big?
01-28-2011, 04:39 PM
01-28-2011, 05:02 PM
I have a quesiton.
Being the majority of the circulating estrogen in pre-menopausal women is created in their ovaries, what is the point of an aromatase inhibitor? The reason it works in men is because the majority fo the estrogen we have circulating is actually created through the conversion of testosterone to estrogen via aromatase. Thus stopping this conversion drastically lowers our estrogen. Aromatization doesn't not account for the majority of circulating estrogen in pre-menopausal women.
I don't get what the point is for women. Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
01-28-2011, 05:15 PM
I'll requalify my statement. In MY experience, more than 50% of people that I have personally heard speak on the subject are in no way educated on what it truly takes to give a female the type of masculine traits seen in female body builders. These are the same people that Rosie and DreamWeaver were addressing when they spoke of myths above. These people are ignorant to the advantages of and methods to resistance training for females.
01-28-2011, 05:32 PM
There are many reasons why a female might want to use a product with AI properties - I know that personally notice the difference when I am using a product with AI properties. It makes me drier for one - also note that one of the primary reasons I love Erase is not necessarily for its AI properties, but because it is the best product I have ever used re joints.
01-29-2011, 08:10 AM
01-29-2011, 10:05 AM
01-29-2011, 05:41 PM
My understanding: By inhibiting the actions of the aromatase enzyme in males this effectively cuts off the majority the supply estrogen produced in their bodies since the majority (@ 80%) of estrogen is created via aromatization of androgens to estrogens. The reason this causes testosterone increases in men is because the body up regulates testosterone production in order to increase circulating estrogen. Men notice a drying effect because of the reduction in estrogen.
Where my confusion lies: In women, this process does not account for the majority of circulating estrogen, so inhibiting this process has minimal effect on circulating estrogens. There is also no feedback loop created increasing testosterone output.
Are you suggesting that despite this main difference in hormonal pathways the amount of testosterone NOT being converted to estrogen is still noticeable enough for you to recommend to other women?
01-29-2011, 08:18 PM
As I said, from personal experience I DO notice the difference and I DO dry out and hold less water when using a product with AI properties - you can dispute this all you like, but I know my body and how it responds, and your opinion will not change that fact.
Josh or someone else might like to step in here and say something, since you guys don't seem to like hearing this from a female.
Note also that an AI or something that contains AI properties is not something that I would recommend to a female - UNLESS she were a very experienced trainee, her nutrition and training were on target for her goals, she knew what she was doing, and knew about the ins and outs, risks and benefits, etc., that can occur with such use.
01-30-2011, 02:02 PM
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