Erase + Alpha T2 log
- 10-28-2010, 01:09 PM
Erase + Alpha T2 log
I've been dieting for about 8 weeks now, and have dropped 12lbs of fat and actually gained 1lb lean body mass. My progress has stalled a bit, and instead of dropping my calories excessively low, i've decided to start taking the erase + alpha t-2. I've been reading a ton of good things about both erase and AT2, so I figured it would be great to see if it lives up to all the hype. Plus, I think my estrogen may be a tad bit high, nothing extreme, i just tend to hold fat around my obliques, low back, and abs.
I will be updating this log on a daily basis with my workouts, my nutrition stays the same day to day, so no need to post it. I'll log any and all effects that I feel from this stack. i'll post before and after pictures. I will also have bod pod measurements at the beginning and end of the cycle. Wish me luck...
BF %: 14%
- 10-28-2010, 01:11 PMBoard Sponsor
- 5'10" 200 lbs.
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- Jul 2007
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- 10-28-2010, 01:32 PMBoard Sponsor
- 5'1" 121 lbs.
- Join Date
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Alpha-T2 us a great product - so much so that I have made it one of my STAPLES. And I'll be using Erase in 2-3 weeks
10-28-2010, 01:56 PM
I completely agree. I do the minimum amount possible to be effective. Its nice to see that someone thinks i'm sensible. You may disagree once you see my workouts. I do all my workouts in specialization phases. The body part that i'm specializing on will get hit twice a day for 3 days in a row, then a day off. So right now its , Mon, Tues, Wed: back twice a day, thursday: off, Friday: Legs, Saturday: chest shoulders tris, Sunday: off
Oh by the way, I'm currently waiting on my Erase and AT2 to get here. They should probably be here tomorrow or monday, possibly tuesday though.
10-28-2010, 02:50 PM
i cant wait to jump on this stack ive been cutting down very slowly for 2 months ive dropped 9lbs trying to really preserve muscle but i to hold water/fat on lower abs, and lower back hopefully this stack will bring out more definition... i cant wait, start it nov.1
10-28-2010, 03:06 PM
Looking forward to see your theories on your exercise splits.
And of course the effects of the stack!
The Historic PES Legend
10-28-2010, 09:10 PM
well for starters, on all my workout days I try to break my lifting up into two sessions. This allows me to use higher intensity for each session, due to being less fatigued. It will increase your testosterone levels for twice the amount of time and also helps to keep your metabolism sped up for a longer period throughout the day.
I feel that muscles respond best to specialization phases, at least the changes are more noticeable. I've also found that if i do 3 days of specialization work back to back that I grow more on the 4 days of rest than I would if I just worked the body part 3 times a week with a day of rest in between each. This type of training has to be really well planned out, because no one could recover from heavy deadlifts for 3 days in a row... Most people think a routine like mine can only be done while on countless drugs, currently I have only taken protein powder, creatine, and fish oil. I have no problem with recovery, because my plan is pretty well thought out.
For my diet, I use Intermittent Fasting. It sounds pretty contradictory to everything most people have ever heard about dieting. Basically I have a 16 hour period in which I don't consume any calories. I have an 8 hour window in which to consume calories. This increases insulin sensitivity, increases catecholamine levels which in turn boosts metabolism, and it also increases natural growth hormone production. Obviously growth hormone helps to build muscle as well as drop body fat, and keeps my joints feeling better. This type of dieting also allows for better digestion. The thing that probably helps the most with this diet is that it allows me to consume ALL of my calories in the peri-workout window. I think this is how i've been able to build muscle while dropping fat.
10-28-2010, 11:46 PM
10-29-2010, 09:15 AM
- 5'1" 121 lbs.
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
If you were only doing 1-2 exercises per session or short 10-15 minute sessions, then doing two-a-days are not so bad, but if it's anything much more than that you need more recovery time.
10-29-2010, 12:20 PM
Rosie, you'd definitely be surprised at what you can recover from if you've done it for a while, and use proper peri workout nutrition.
Standing Military Press: 95x5,105x5,115x5,125x5,135x5,1 45x5,155x5
Incline Bench Press: 155x5,175x5,185x5,195x5,205x5, 215x5
Session 2 will be:
A1) Cable Flies: 2x Max Reps
A2) DB Flies: 2x Max Reps
A3) Push ups: 2x Max reps
B1) Incline Lateral Raises (facing back pad): 2x Max Reps
B2) Incline Lateral Raises: 2x Max reps
B3) Incline Front raises: 2x Max reps
C1) Cable tricep Ext: 3x10
I've been doing this program for a few months now, and haven't become overtrained yet. I become slightly overreached at the beginning of every week, but i recover by the end of the week.
10-29-2010, 12:50 PM
- 5'1" 121 lbs.
- Join Date
- Mar 2008
10-30-2010, 08:26 AM
Yesterday, I got asked to be in part of a research study, so i had to do some isometric pulls from different bar positions. From the floor i averaged 700lbs of force. At the top of the knee, i averaged 830lbs of force. and from mid-thigh, i averaged 1350lbs of force. Looks like if i really want my deadlift to go up i need to start doing some deficit deadlifts and pulls from the knee.
10-30-2010, 07:44 PM
10-30-2010, 08:10 PM
Well its still in the pilot stages, so i'm not sure that I can say yet.
10-30-2010, 08:12 PM
My erase and alpha T-2 came in today. As of right now, I havent noticed anything. I probably didn't notice any heating effects due to being outside in the cold for a good part of the day. Monday, will probably be the first day i'll be able to tell a difference. I'm hoping the Erase really starts drying me out.
10-31-2010, 02:20 PM
10-31-2010, 08:53 PM
Natty, I've been taking it on an empty stomach so far. Thats pretty easy for me to do, since I'm dieting IF style. I'll be taking my first Erase and AT2 at about 8 am, and I wont eat my first meal till 2 pm. I think this diet will maximize the effectiveness of this stack.
10-31-2010, 09:03 PM
Today, I woke up pretty late. So, I only ended up taking 1 dose of erase and dose AT2. I'm already starting to feel a slight increase in libido, but it may just be one of those days. I haven't noticed much if any drying out yet, but I did just start taking it yesterday. Gym performance wasn't anything spectacular today, but it was a solid session.
I'm trying to decide whether to start my third week of my back specialization tomorrow, or jump to my leg specialization.
Today's diet 7/10
Today's lifting: 8/10
Front Squats: 135x5,155x5,175x5,195x5
Olympic Back Squats: 225x5,275x5,295x5
Top half squats from pins: 315x5,365x5,405x5,455x5 Easy
Leg Ext: 145x15 drop set 115x20
Leg Curl: 115x15 drop 85x15
I had a pretty sweet pump at the end of the session. I just tore my meniscus two weeks ago, so I shouldn't even be squatting right now, but I just cant stop myself. Obviously the weight is down just a tad, but it should come back up.
10-31-2010, 09:28 PM
Day 1 pics. Hopefully these will drastically change over the course of the next 45 days.
10-31-2010, 09:30 PM
Definitely could use some better lighting. I may have to try taking these pics in the bathroom sometime, much better lighting in there.
11-01-2010, 05:26 PM
I was wondering today how beneficial it would be for me to take some DHEA along with this stack.. I've read a ton of studies that basically show that DHEA is worthless because it increases estrogen... But since erase is an AI, would I be able to reap benefits from it?
From the studies i've read, DHEA only increased testosterone in older men and women, and only raised DHEA levels in most men. So, anyone think it could help me to take this as well?
11-01-2010, 09:18 PM
Day 2 199lb
I haven't really noticed too much yet. My weight was down a pound today, which could be due to anything. I noticed today, that i have a few bumps on my back, which usually means that my test is up. The only reason i know that is because thats when I usually hit my PRs. Technically this is day 3 on Erase and AT2, so i guess its possible that this stuff is working already. I didn't really notice my libido being up anymore than usual today, but this should change. I think i'm going to add DHEA to this stack, since its dirt cheap, and it shouldnt hurt any.
Pullover (machine): 70,95,110,120,130,140x8 PR
Pull ups: BW,10,20,25x8
Pull Downs: 120,140,160x15 (really stretched at the top)
1 arm T-bar row: 25,35,45,55x8 (plus bar weight)
Straight Bar curl: 45,95,95,95x6,75x10 (i never do curls, so they are weak)
Today was definitely a pretty solid session. I had a pretty sick lat pump, it was probably from really stretching on every rep. this is the final week of my back specialization, so hopefully it will produce some pretty sick results.
11-02-2010, 11:46 PM
Woke up today and took 1/1 at 7am and 1/1 at 1pm. I'm still not feeling any kind of heating effects, but hopefully that will change. If not, I'll start drinking some coffee and taking a green tea supplement. My libido was up again today... two days in a row... could still be a coincidence. No drying out of the joints yet, but I may be dropping some water. My legs look to be a little leaner, nothing drastic, but definitely a difference. Still considering stacking DHEA with this, since I already have a full bottle. Anyone who has any advice on that let me know.
Training today was non existent. I just didn't have the time. I was at school from 8am till 8pm with no down time. I'll definitely make up for this tomorrow. I adjusted my calories accordingly since there was no physical activity today.
11-03-2010, 11:20 AM
11-03-2010, 09:56 PM
Day 4 weight: 199
Well the libido was back down to normal today, but i'm starting to get quite a bit of acne. I really was not expecting this. I usually get one maybe 2 bumps, but i've got several on my back and chest. There is a really good chance this is stress related, but if not i'll definitely have to start showering twice daily. I'm really hoping its because of the Erase, and that really has me looking forward to the next 40 days. Oh, and I drank a zero cal energy drink about 2 hours before my first meal today... it amped me up for about 4 hours, it was too much. I did get some pretty nice thermogenic effects from it though, made my heart race too much. I'll have to start with a much milder stim.
Bent Over Rows: 135,155,165,175,185,195,205x8 (super strict)
Rack Deadlifts (from top of knee): 315,365,405,445x8 PR
Mid thigh pulls: 365x8
This was a really solid session. The rack deads were a PR from that pin height. I've got a long torso, so that is a really hard position for me.
Pull ups: bwx8,8,8,8,8
Pull down: 120,130,140x15 then 30 sec stretch
Reverse flies: 85,100,115,130x15 PR
Machine Rows: 120,140x15
I got a pretty nice pump from this session. I got a good stretch in my lats, and i believe they may be growing... My back also looks to be adding some thickness. Can't ask for anymore than that while dieting down.
11-04-2010, 07:12 PM
Libido was back up a tad bit today. Nothing major, just slightly higher. I may be drying out a little bit. Its still hard to tell at this point. No achy joints yet, and acne doesnt seem any worse today. I'll check my weight tomorrow, i'm expecting to be down another pound, but we shall see.
11-04-2010, 07:59 PM
11-04-2010, 10:42 PM
I'd imagine i'd get the heating effects with a light stim, or just drinking some coffee and green tea. I would also probably get the heating effect if i upped it to two caps in the morning. I'm going to hold off on this for a while though. I'll wait until progress becomes non-existent or just really slow.
11-05-2010, 11:58 AM
11-05-2010, 07:28 PM
I disagree, i think coffee and green tea will help a lot. From personal experience, i know that if i drink a cup of coffee and take a green tea pill that i will start sweating in about 15 minutes. i don't ever drink caffeine, so it has a pretty big effect on me when i do take it.
11-05-2010, 09:43 PM
Day 6 198
Libido was up again today. Nothing drastic, but slightly noticeable. For some reason i'm holding water today, no real reason why. I'm sure this will drop soon. I'm considering bumping Erase and AT2 up to two caps in the morning and 1 in the afternoon. i'll probably wait another week before doing that. I'm going to try drinking some green tea first thing in the morning to spike my metabolism a tad more.
11-06-2010, 01:18 PM
11-06-2010, 01:21 PM
11-06-2010, 03:17 PM
yesterday, after my post, my libido actually started going up considerably. I'm thinking this erase is really doing something.
Military Press (STRICT): 95x5,115x5,135x5,145x5,155x5
Incline Bench Press: 155x5,175x5,195x5,215x5
Bench Press: 225x5,235x5,245x5,255x5
Incline Flies; 45'sx8,8,8
DB Lateral Raises: 45x8,8
1 armed underhand tricep ext: 35x15,15,15
Pretty good workout yesterday. My chest is definitely fried right now. I went super heavy on the lateral raises and even though the form wasn't as strict, i felt like I got more out of them.
11-06-2010, 11:22 PM
I woke up pretty late today, so I just took 2 AT2 and one erase, then i took another erase about 6 hours later. I still didnt notice any heating effects, but it is 56 degrees in my apartment right now so its a little hard to tell. My libido was up again today. I also look a little leaner today. Could be fat loss or water loss.
My fat loss has been occurring different than what most people see. It seems like i lose fat from one place and everywhere else stalls. Then that place stalls and another place picks up. My arms started to lean out first and everything else stayed the same. Then my arms stopped losing fat, and the fat loss continued in my abs. Abs stopped, then my back started to drop fat. Back stopped now my legs are. I feel like most people tend to have accelerated fat loss in one place and everything tries to play catch up. Mine seems to be coming in a cyclical manner. However, I am not complaining about fat loss, and i hope it continues for about 5 more weeks. It was just an observation.
11-07-2010, 12:51 PM
I know its early in the day still, but my libido has been up since before I got out of bed this morning. My ex came over for a little while this morning, and the first thing she noticed was how I'm getting leaner. Then noticed my "libido"...
I'm going to bump it up to 3 pills a day for each. I'm hoping this dosage will start drying me out even more, and i will HAVE to back down to two pills a day. It may be wishful thinking though.
11-07-2010, 04:22 PM
i guess it's a tradeoff-you aren't getting heating effect from at-2
but i am not getting a boost in libido.
at least we both are getting leaner.
11-07-2010, 07:37 PM
thebigt: yea man, thats all that really matters. I really was not expecting a boost in libido, especially since my ex just broke up with me Monday. i was expecting to feel more stressed, which I really don't. I wish I knew whether it was the Erase that was causing these positive effects.
11-07-2010, 08:07 PM
11-07-2010, 10:47 PM
I know the erase is supposed to control cortisol, but I really didnt expect it to have any noticeable effects. I guess maybe i was wrong.
Today's workout: (all exercises with Fat Gripz)
A1) Straight Bar Curl: 45x10,55x10,65x10,75x10
A2) Straight Bar Reverse Curl: 45x10,55x10,65x10,75x8
Close Grip Bench: 135x10,185x10,205x8,225x5
Hammer curl: 45x10,45x10,45x10
D1) Cable tricep ext: 50x15,57x15,65x15
D2) Cable tricep pulldown: 50x15,57x15,65x15
The super sets were light, because I was going for more of a pump. I definitely achieved that. Today was the first time I have ever really felt the lateral head of my tricep working, it was pretty sweet.
My legs have started leaning out more. I'm starting to get some quad definition that i've never had before. This should really increase over the next two weeks, since I'm starting my leg specialization tomorrow. I'm still trying to figure out exactly how to set it up...
It will probably be something like this:
Monday: Ham string emphasis (pl squat, ghr, leg curls, sumo leg press, calves)
Tuesday: Hams and Quads (oly squat, RDL, Split squats, calves)
Wednesday: Quad emphasis ( Front squats, leg press, leg ext, calves)
Friday: back and biceps
Saturday: chest, shoulders, tris
I'll probably have to bump up the calories some to keep from atrophying. I'll also be applying any kind of recovery techniques I can think of. I'll probably ice my legs once a day, and use contrast showers, and probably a ton of light stretching.
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