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  1. how will this compare to Triazole ?


  2. Answered you in the other thread
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  3. Cheers !

  4. i respond well to atd and would love to try this at only 19 bucks.....i read a lot about the compound and it seems really good.....should i take 3 caps for 4 weeks or taper down like:
    3-3-2-2-1-1

  5. Pre-order ftw. Will go right into it after the PCT for my upcoming cycle.
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  6. Nice!

    Erase should be at nutra very soon
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  7. subbed can't wait to try this.
    I will work for supplements!

  8. I'm not sure if I missed seeing it explained or not....but wondering how it works (MOA) in the gyno reversal dept?




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  9. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    I'm not sure if I missed seeing it explained or not....but wondering how it works (MOA) in the gyno reversal dept?




    'I work at Bed, Bath and Beyond. I work in the 'beyond' dept. Thank you.'
    hahaha good quote

    Aromatase inhibitors will work to decrease estrogen, thus reverzing gyno. The reason not all of them work, is some are more selective in breast tissue than others. Those very selective in breast tissue will work best.

    Theres no studies on the the selectivity in breast tissue for Erase, but we did see gyno reversal in some users who had gyno that recently developed from increased estrogen levels from prohormones.

    Nothing will reverse gyno from puberty though. Just surgery!
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  10. I picked up 2 bottles of Erase for that awesome price... I've never ran an AI before. Is it best to run back to back bottles? What sort of dosing should I do, the directions say 1-3 per day, I normally would just do the most of what is suggested on the bottle but with this product I'm unsure. Are the doses meant to be split up, morning, afternoon, night, pre workout, post workout? Sorry for the noob questions but thanks in advance!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    hahaha good quote
    ... was from a hilarious guy on Last comic standing a few years back...they've really butchered the format of the show since then...

    Aromatase inhibitors will work to decrease estrogen, thus reverzing gyno. The reason not all of them work, is some are more selective in breast tissue than others. Those very selective in breast tissue will work best.

    Theres no studies on the the selectivity in breast tissue for Erase, but we did see gyno reversal in some users who had gyno that recently developed from increased estrogen levels from prohormones.

    Nothing will reverse gyno from puberty though. Just surgery!
    Ahhhh, gotch ya...I have slight puffiness from puberty...then I think slightly increased it from using androstendione when it was first introduced in the mid 90's and not using any AI's, etc with it...nothing major, just annoying....

  12. Question- Will erase change the way my body naturally produces testosterone or levels of anything else? do I have to worry about any type of post cycle drop off in levels? I'm non stimulant now, this is not a stimulant correct?

    Thank you!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by JWest0926 View Post
    Question- Will erase change the way my body naturally produces testosterone or levels of anything else? do I have to worry about any type of post cycle drop off in levels? I'm non stimulant now, this is not a stimulant correct?

    Thank you!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by JWest0926 View Post
    Question- Will erase change the way my body naturally produces testosterone or levels of anything else? do I have to worry about any type of post cycle drop off in levels? I'm non stimulant now, this is not a stimulant correct?

    Thank you!
    Not a stimulant
    It will increase your natural testosterone levels while you take it. No PCT needed.

    When you stop taking it your levels will be what they were pre-Erase.
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  15. is there any possibility that after coming off erase, estrogen levels bounce back too much due to your body trying to rebalance it? might be a stupid question but Im not really skilled in this kind of stuff

  16. Quote Originally Posted by itzgambino View Post
    is there any possibility that after coming off erase, estrogen levels bounce back too much due to your body trying to rebalance it? might be a stupid question but Im not really skilled in this kind of stuff
    No, due to the suicide inhibition quality, when you stop taking erase, your body is still creating the same amount of aromatase, just not there is nothing binding to it removing it, your estrogen levels will raise to normal again.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    No, due to the suicide inhibition quality, when you stop taking erase, your body is still creating the same amount of aromatase, just not there is nothing binding to it removing it, your estrogen levels will raise to normal again.
    thanks bro, always weary bout that kinda stuff - sounds like this should be good to throw in with my oep

  18. Quote Originally Posted by itzgambino View Post
    thanks bro, always weary bout that kinda stuff - sounds like this should be good to throw in with my oep
    if you don't understand the process it's ok. i don't know how planes fly-but i know they do.
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  19. I am a 40 year old male and have had previous weight loss success with 7-Keto supplements. My ? is this, are there different types of 7-Keto. The one I have used in the past was 7-Keto (DHEA Acetate-7-one) dosed twice daily @ 100mg each. Erase contains Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione @ 25 mg each. Are these different types of 7-Keto or are they all the same stated differently. If they are different can someone please eloborate how these versions are different.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Robert2957 View Post
    I am a 40 year old male and have had previous weight loss success with 7-Keto supplements. My ? is this, are there different types of 7-Keto. The one I have used in the past was 7-Keto (DHEA Acetate-7-one) dosed twice daily @ 100mg each. Erase contains Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione @ 25 mg each. Are these different types of 7-Keto or are they all the same stated differently. If they are different can someone please eloborate how these versions are different.

    Different metabolites I believe of 7-keto dhea..
    im no chemist, so dont quote me lol..

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Robert2957 View Post
    I am a 40 year old male and have had previous weight loss success with 7-Keto supplements. My ? is this, are there different types of 7-Keto. The one I have used in the past was 7-Keto (DHEA Acetate-7-one) dosed twice daily @ 100mg each. Erase contains Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione @ 25 mg each. Are these different types of 7-Keto or are they all the same stated differently. If they are different can someone please eloborate how these versions are different.
    Gamer is correct, this is a metabolite of 7-oxo... not a different form, just found a metabolite of the parent hormone that garner effects desired.
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  22. No worries guys. Basically, PES is not shipping the product out to stores. We had them directly shipped from the manufacturer. We asked for it to be shipped express to stores, but low and behold, that request was not fulfilled so it was shipped ground. Our manufacturer is in California, and Nutraplanet is in Georgia. That is why there has been a delay, along with the Holiday on Monday. All will be well!
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  23. tis a bummer-but good things come to those who wait!!!!
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  24. I really don't know why I can't find an answer to this question (searched here and on other forums and there is no specific answer given by PES), but what is the dosing protocol recommended for ERASE?

    I'm thinking of taking 3/day as follows:
    1 with breakfast
    1 pre-workout
    1 with dinner

    but will be starting the first week or two as:
    1 with breakfast
    1 pre-workout

    Is there another recommendation by the PES reps?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by strester View Post
    I really don't know why I can't find an answer to this question (searched here and on other forums and there is no specific answer given by PES), but what is the dosing protocol recommended for ERASE?

    I'm thinking of taking 3/day as follows:
    1 with breakfast
    1 pre-workout
    1 with dinner

    but will be starting the first week or two as:
    1 with breakfast
    1 pre-workout

    Is there another recommendation by the PES reps?
    If you visit our subforum, NattyD has posted the protocol he designed.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    If you visit our subforum, NattyD has posted the protocol he designed.
    I thought this was the PES subforum.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by strester View Post
    I thought this was the PES subforum.
    Sorry, i thought he posted in our sub forum, but it is in the supplements forum.. here you go.

    How to Dose ERASE?
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    If you visit our subforum, NattyD has posted the protocol he designed.
    noob
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  29. nattydisaster,

    I really wanted to PM you with this question but I figured I'd just post it in here. I couldn't find an official Erase thread (or didn't look in the Supplement header, lol) so I figured I'd just ask this in the company's section.

    My question is kind of complex and I hope to not get flamed for this. For the longest time I have wanted to run an AI but did not want to go the steroidal route. After learning more about human nature and the biochemical aspect of it, I was wondering how is this claimed to be a natural/non-hormonal product? The way I see it is, if it has a typical steroidal structure, then I find it to be, well, steroidal. Now a lot of compounds are claimed to be naturally-occuring; so by this statement I assume that the active compound in Erase naturally occurs in the body, yes?

    Now seeing as this is a 7-Keto DHEA metabolite, I'm assuming 7-Keto DHEA occurs naturally as well, right? Now testosterone and HGH both occur naturally as well, but we all know that 1) it's illegal to have without a prescription and 2) it cannot be used like typical supplements because of obvious reasons and complications

    So with this said, just because a compound occurs naturally in the body, that compound in the product itself wasn't obtained naturally, is this correct? Erase's active was synthesized in a lab (like all steroids), right? See this is the question/concern I've been trying to find answers to for the longest time but cannot find anything conclusive that helps me understand the concept. What's the difference between naturally-occurring steroids and the ones that aren't? Do the one's that don't occur naturally play a different biological role? Like, do they illicit more side effects than naturally-occurring one's because it is foreign to body? Taking all of this into perspective, are naturally-occurring compounds (steroidal) deemed more natural than the ones that don't occur naturally? Because once again, it's not like saying testosterone would be deemed more natural than creatine, even though both compounds occur-naturally. But what is natural really? Even if something is synthesized, does it all of sudden become fake or unnatural? The elements, catalysts and reaction solutions used to synthesize didn't just come out of nowhere. I'm sure I'm going completely out of topic now.

    I'm pretty much asking, just because the active is naturally occurring, it will not necessarily be allowed in some competitive organizations, right? But what's funny to me is that a lot of natural competitive organizations do allow 7-Keto DHEA as well 7-OH (7-hydroxy DHEA) and 5-AT (androstenetriol). My question then is, would this specific 7-Keto DHEA metabolite allowed in the same organizations that allow the latter compounds? Or would I have to contact the organization(s) directly to confirm the status?

    This is why I'm pretty damn eager to give Triazole a try. As far as the research goes, none of the compounds seem to be steroidal in structure and people have been getting damn near PH/DS results; that's good enough for me. But Erase looks so promising as well that I don't want to leave it out of the picture. Sorry natty if I kind of skewed the thread on this but I'm just trying to get down to the bottom of it.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by F355 View Post
    nattydisaster,

    My question is kind of complex and I hope to not get flamed for this. For the longest time I have wanted to run an AI but did not want to go the steroidal route. After learning more about human nature and the biochemical aspect of it, I was wondering how is this claimed to be a natural/non-hormonal product?

    The way I see it is, if it has a typical steroidal structure, then I find it to be, well, steroidal. Now a lot of compounds are claimed to be naturally-occuring; so by this statement I assume that the active compound in Erase naturally occurs in the body, yes?


    Often on bodybuilding forums the term steroid is misunderstood. The definition of a steroid is a type of organic compound that contains a specific arrangement of four rings that are joined to each other. The word "steroid" does NOT mean Ananbolic or Androgenic steroid. These steroids bind the the androgen receptor.

    Want to know what else is a steroid? Cholesterol. So if you want to look at it that way, youve probably ate a crapload of steroids today!

    Funny think about AI's with a steroidal structure (remember, steroidal meaning their chemical arrangement, NOT ANABOLIC STEROID) actually have the LEAST negative effects. Non-steroidal AI's such as arimidex and letrozole have very bad side effects on the lipids.

    The supplement (Erase) is natural and DSHEA compliant because it already exists in your body at very small amounts. It is not a claim, it is a fact.

    Hormone is another word thrown around the boards too loosely. Know what else is a hormone? Melatonin. There are tons of Americans taking hormones!



    Now seeing as this is a 7-Keto DHEA metabolite, I'm assuming 7-Keto DHEA occurs naturally as well, right? Now testosterone and HGH both occur naturally as well, but we all know that 1) it's illegal to have without a prescription and 2) it cannot be used like typical supplements because of obvious reasons and complications

    Yes, 7-keto DHEA occurs naturally. First off, Testosterone and HGH are controlled substances lol. That is why you need a prescription. You're sort of comparing apples to oranges to...a bag of cheetos here. Not trying to sound like a d*ck I just need to be straight forward so everything is clear.

    HGH is not a steroid, for the record. It is a protein based peptide hormone. See what I am getting at? So since HGH is a protein, why isnt all protein banned? It just doesnt work that way...just like the word steroid and hormone.

    They are illegal to have without a presciption because they are controlled substances. Testosterone is an ANABOLIC STEROID. That is why it is a controlled substance.


    So with this said, just because a compound occurs naturally in the body, that compound in the product itself wasn't obtained naturally, is this correct?

    This is true for millions of supplements. Do you think the L-carnitine you drank today was extracted from the human body? Do you think the melatonin was extracted from human pineal glands?

    Erase's active was synthesized in a lab (like all steroids), right?

    That is a terrible way to word it. Erase was synthesized in a lab, just like every amino acid you consume, just like half of the ingredients in foods you consume, like every artificial everything you consume. Every take a caffeine tablet? MANY supplements are Synthesized in a lab. As for supplements who have things extracted...they are extracted in a lab, with solvents.

    See this is the question/concern I've been trying to find answers to for the longest time but cannot find anything conclusive that helps me understand the concept.

    It is a legitimate question, but should not be a concern

    What's the difference between naturally-occurring steroids and the ones that aren't?

    Stated above. Erase is not an anabolic steroid. Every take DHEA from GNC or Walmart? Thats a steroid. Its natural. And synthesized in a lab.

    Do the one's that don't occur naturally play a different biological role?

    No

    Like, do they illicit more side effects than naturally-occurring one's because it is foreign to body?

    No. Natural ones are simply DSHEA compliant which is required as a dietary supplement

    Taking all of this into perspective, are naturally-occurring compounds (steroidal) deemed more natural than the ones that don't occur naturally?

    You mean natural in what sense? If you take a steroid that exists in nature youre taking a natural steroid. If it is one that does not, then it doesnt... The effects of the compound have NOTHING to do with whether or not it is natural. It has to do with the chemical makeup if each specific compound

    Because once again, it's not like saying testosterone would be deemed more natural than creatine, even though both compounds occur-naturally. But what is natural really?

    I suppose we can all make our own definition. Mine is, natural is anything that exists in nature (in or out of the body, as we are a part of nature as humans).

    Even if something is synthesized, does it all of sudden become fake or unnatural?

    Fake? No. Unnatural? Depends how you look at it. Do you take Centrum? Those are synthetic vitamins. Do you still pee green when you take it? Must work

    The elements, catalysts and reaction solutions used to synthesize didn't just come out of nowhere. I'm sure I'm going completely out of topic now.

    I feel like youre in a biochem 101 class (not flaming) and trying to put stuff together without a full understanding of everything

    I'm pretty much asking, just because the active is naturally occurring, it will not necessarily be allowed in some competitive organizations, right?

    Again, it is DSHEA compliant. Organizations make their own decisions on what is banned and it has nothing to do with natural or unnatural, synthetic, or whatever. Caffeine was banned by the NCAA until about two years ago.


    But what's funny to me is that a lot of natural competitive organizations do allow 7-Keto DHEA as well 7-OH (7-hydroxy DHEA) and 5-AT (androstenetriol).

    Again, has nothing to do with naturalness or synthetic-ness

    My question then is, would this specific 7-Keto DHEA metabolite allowed in the same organizations that allow the latter compounds? Or would I have to contact the organization(s) directly to confirm the status?

    As with any compound, you should confirm, because every organization has their own rules. Odds are they wont know what the compound in Erase is.


    This is why I'm pretty damn eager to give Triazole a try.

    Most organizations have a blanket clause on all AI's. So anything that acts as an AI is banned, no matter if its from your body, a lab, a tree, a flower, whatever. So if organizations is your reason odds are NO AI is for you

    As far as the research goes, none of the compounds seem to be steroidal in structure and people have been getting damn near PH/DS results; that's good enough for me.

    Try BOTH and decide for yourself what YOU like better. I am not going to try to convince you why you should buy Erase over Triazole. They may have similar mechanisms but they have completely different compounds

    But Erase looks so promising as well that I don't want to leave it out of the picture.

    Not sure why it would ever leave the picture...it is the most potent AI you can buy over the counter. Try it and you will see what I mean.


    Sorry natty if I kind of skewed the thread on this but I'm just trying to get down to the bottom of it.

    Nothing to get the the bottom of...i feel bad for your confusion and tried my best to help you better understand some chemistry, biochem, supplements, etc. as I do not want you to make a decision based on false information or assumption.
    Cliffs? JK!

    I answered in bold above. Do not take offense to anything. Just when answering science based questions I have no nice way of putting things. Thats why no one ever liked studying with me in college

    Also I did not proofread a single word and I type faster than my brain works so Im sure they are all over
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