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Old 04-09-2008, 11:45 AM   #1
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Does this sound like adrenal fatigue:(

I am not sure what is wrong with me, but my mind has been dead tired lately. When I look at symptoms for adrenal fatigue, I match up pretty close with them.

One thing I do notice is, my body is not fatigued. I can still go to the gym, lift the same weights, have the same amount of energy in my muscles, etc. it's just my mind is dead tired like I can't hold my head up.

I am not a Heavy stim user, but I do use them.

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Also, I see that DHEA is reccommended for adrenal fatigue, but i do not see it in reset ad. How much DHEA should be taken for adrenal fatigue?
 
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Also, I see that DHEA is reccommended for adrenal fatigue, but i do not see it in reset ad. How much DHEA should be taken for adrenal fatigue?
I personally wouldn't use DHEA for adrenal fatigue because of the sides, and also because it's hormonal. You should check out Reset AD from Palo Alto (Reset AD (60 capsules) By: Palo Alto Labs) It looks like you've already heard about it though since you're posting in their sub-forum heh.

Before you jump to the conclusion of adrenal fatigue, have you changed anything regarding sleeping patterns, diet etc that might have affected your energy levels?
 



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I personally wouldn't use DHEA for adrenal fatigue because of the sides, and also because it's hormonal. You should check out Reset AD from Palo Alto (Reset AD (60 capsules) By: Palo Alto Labs) It looks like you've already heard about it though since you're posting in their sub-forum heh.

Before you jump to the conclusion of adrenal fatigue, have you changed anything regarding sleeping patterns, diet etc that might have affected your energy levels?

No, honestly I have not changed a thing. I go to sleep at 10pm, I wake up either at 8am or 10am so I get plenty of sleep. I eat about 3000 calories.

Im mainly curious if adrenal fatigue is assosiated with head tiredness. My body is fine, its just my head that is dead tired.
 
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Doesn't sound anything like adrenal exhaustion to me. Could be allergies: this *IS* pollen season.
 
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Also, I see that DHEA is reccommended for adrenal fatigue, but i do not see it in reset ad. How much DHEA should be taken for adrenal fatigue?
We use pregnenolone

its a dhea precursor, but it has the ability to circulate in the body for up to 48 hours... if the pregnenolone is not utilized by the body (ie hormone homeostasis is already met) then the extra is excreted.

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Hows your overall stress level (1-10)?

You might just be simply sleeping too much... you get 10-12 hours of sleep a day? jeeez... and more than 7 or 8 and im a zombie!!
 



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Im mainly curious if adrenal fatigue is assosiated with head tiredness. My body is fine, its just my head that is dead tired.
typically... this is the case

adrenal fatigue causes your body to run on an almost never ending supply of epinephrine, which leads to an increase in insulin, which then causes cortisol to rise...

so for a while, your body can operate on this coctail of stress... typically, you will feel mentally fatigued or dumbed down.
most of the time, Adrenal fatigue is associated with sleep disturbances.. if you are able to get 10 hours of sleep a day...it might be another issue

i had Sinusitis...which caused similar side effects... i had energy, but also had a headache at all times. Id goto the ENT every month and constantly have a sinus infection... antibiotics couldnt fix it because my right nose septum was so closed up that it was a breeding ground for bacteria
 



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typically... this is the case

adrenal fatigue causes your body to run on an almost never ending supply of epinephrine, which leads to an increase in insulin, which then causes cortisol to rise...

so for a while, your body can operate on this coctail of stress... typically, you will feel mentally fatigued or dumbed down.
most of the time, Adrenal fatigue is associated with sleep disturbances.. if you are able to get 10 hours of sleep a day...it might be another issue

i had Sinusitis...which caused similar side effects... i had energy, but also had a headache at all times. Id goto the ENT every month and constantly have a sinus infection... antibiotics couldnt fix it because my right nose septum was so closed up that it was a breeding ground for bacteria
Just wondering...what did you do to correct your sinusitis? I have a deviated septum so i'm all too familiar with constant plugged noses and congestion. I take a nasal cleanse but it doesn't inherently fix the problem.
 
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Just wondering...what did you do to correct your sinusitis? I have a deviated septum so i'm all too familiar with constant plugged noses and congestion. I take a nasal cleanse but it doesn't inherently fix the problem.
surgery.

after a year of repeated antibiotic cycles and every other method my ENT could come up with.. that was the last straw... much better now
After surgery, she told me that it was the worst deviated septum that she has ever seen. ah well.. thats what happens when you have 2 brothers growing up... noses get broken

since then, the best remedy that i have found is avail OTC at any drug store.. they sell a 12oz squeeze bottle and saline packets for under $10.

Basically you mix it with lukewarm water, stand in the shower, and snort 1/2 the mix up each nostril and spit it out your mouth.. the first few times you gag, but then get used to it.... it clears you up like nothing else you can imagine.

my gf was sick a few months ago.. i had her do that and about 1 cup of green slime came out of her. imagine what getting ALL of that out at once feels like!

now i only use that when i feel a sinus infection coming on.. it stops the infection in its tracks
 



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after a year of repeated antibiotic cycles and every other method my ENT could come up with.. that was the last straw... much better now
After surgery, she told me that it was the worst deviated septum that she has ever seen. ah well.. thats what happens when you have 2 brothers growing up... noses get broken

since then, the best remedy that i have found is avail OTC at any drug store.. they sell a 12oz squeeze bottle and saline packets for under $10.

Basically you mix it with lukewarm water, stand in the shower, and snort 1/2 the mix up each nostril and spit it out your mouth.. the first few times you gag, but then get used to it.... it clears you up like nothing else you can imagine.

my gf was sick a few months ago.. i had her do that and about 1 cup of green slime came out of her. imagine what getting ALL of that out at once feels like!

now i only use that when i feel a sinus infection coming on.. it stops the infection in its tracks
wow that's kinda gross but amazing! :P
I'll have to ask my doctor about that. My mom had nasal surgery because she had a deviated septum too, and said it was one of the worst experiences of her life post surgery (tho she is mildly allergic to anesthasia (sp?)). She said she'd wake up and her mouth would be unbearably dry.
 
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We use pregnenolone

its a dhea precursor, but it has the ability to circulate in the body for up to 48 hours... if the pregnenolone is not utilized by the body (ie hormone homeostasis is already met) then the extra is excreted.

Questions for you please
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How many hours a week do you work?
How heavy do you lift?
Height, weight, bodyfat%?
You eat 3000 calories a day, how much of this is processed foods?

Hows your overall stress level (1-10)?

You might just be simply sleeping too much... you get 10-12 hours of sleep a day? jeeez... and more than 7 or 8 and im a zombie!!
To answer your questions..

What do you do for a living? I am a full time BSN Nursing Student. I have a lot of free time on my hands; I am not an extremely busy person.

How many hours a week do you work? None. I am taking 15 credits in school.

How Heavy do you lift? I like extremely heavy and hard. I am an NPC bodybuilder.

Height/Weight/Bodyfat: 5`1 (Yes short, broke my growth plates playing ice hockey) 184lbs, about 14% bodyfat

Out of my 3000 or so calories, none is from processed foods with the exception of saturday night when i go out to dinner with my girl. Its always, oatmeal, red potatos, chicken, steak, pork, ground meat, etc.

Overall stress level i dont think would be high. I have a 3.8 in school, im having a very easy time in school, not stressed about that at all. My gf and I currently no problems what so ever. So i dont see why my stress would be high.

I have been using for a bout 3 weeks lean xtreme which supresses cortisol.

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Did this problem start before you started suppressing your cortisol?

It doesnt really sound as if your symptoms are adrenal fatigue related to be honest... you are minimally stressed, eat well, sleep alot.. and the only real stress that you see is in the gym... but thats not enough to send the adrenal gland into overdrive
 



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I am not sure what is wrong with me, but my mind has been dead tired lately. When I look at symptoms for adrenal fatigue, I match up pretty close with them.

One thing I do notice is, my body is not fatigued. I can still go to the gym, lift the same weights, have the same amount of energy in my muscles, etc. it's just my mind is dead tired like I can't hold my head up.

I am not a Heavy stim user, but I do use them.

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3 caps Reset AD my friend, i stay on em yearround now and feel great, i'm not a heavy stim user but I have had panic attacks in the past and i like how i cope with stress better on the Reset AD, also regulates your sleep nicely.
 
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My turn!

I am a stim addict. To the point if I don't take my 200 mgs caffine in the morning, I get a headache about 1 pm. I have learned over time to ween off to avoid the headache.

I just did a month of No-Doz followed by 2 bottles of Leviathan back to back (love it!) and currently weening off another month of ECA.

Over the last few months I've noticed several things that now upon looking sound like adrenal fatigue (the reason I'm currently weening).

I reached a point where we would go to bed at 9-10 pm, but I couldn't sleep. I would take 3-4 Benedryl and watch TV until I fell asleep. We'd get up at 5:30 am and she'd go to work and I'd go back to bed from 7:30-8 until 11am or so. My sleep schedule was all scewed up. If I tried staying awake in the morning, I was still unable to sleep at bedtime.

I have started a new job about a month ago so morning naps are out of the question, but I still have a hard time going to sleep even though I'm exhausted. I can't tell you the last time I feel I had a "restful" sleep.

Mentally I feel almost in a drunken stupor. Physically I trip over my own feet and drop stuff. I usually feel if I could find a comfortable spot and be left alone I could sleep standing up.

A few months ago (early March) I did a cycle of Mdrol and put on 11 lbs "good weight". Just prior to that thought put on 10 lbs "bad weight" after I was laid off. After the Mdrol is when I took the Levi and ECA and still my middle is getting bigger.

I can go all day with a satisfied appetite (eating/drinking a protein shake every 3 hours), but come 6pm I get totally ravenous and it doesn't seem like I can eat enough in the evening.

Also, my blood pressure has sky rocketed. I mean scary. I mean 110/161 scary I have a Dr. appointment tomorrow for the BP...should I mention Adrenal Fatigue?

BTW...I ordered 2 bottles of Reset yesterday.

OK....IYO, do I sound like I have Adrenal Fatigue?
 
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