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Old 12-31-2007, 02:24 PM   #1
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Angry aspire didnt work

i tried aspire last night for the first time. i am sad to say that it didnt work in the sexual department but i did get the side effects. i just came off a test/tren/winnie cycle and was shut down pretty hard. i wanted something to replace cialis but this didnt do it. i also take diesel test hardcore and that hasnt boost my libido also. i am going to give it another shot once i recover more. anybody have any ideas?
 
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i tried aspire last night for the first time. i am sad to say that it didnt work in the sexual department but i did get the side effects. i just came off a test/tren/winnie cycle and was shut down pretty hard. i wanted something to replace cialis but this didnt do it. i also take diesel test hardcore and that hasnt boost my libido also. i am going to give it another shot once i recover more. anybody have any ideas?
What did your post cycle therapy look like? How long was the cycle? Tren can shut you down very hard. Aspire36 is recommended for healthy males looking to enhance their sexual life...
 



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Libido and physical ability to sustain an erection are VASTLY different things.

Are you saying Aspire did NOT help out in the erection department, or that your libido is still shot?

BTW, Aspire/Leviathan stacked hits me from both directions...Libido goes WAY up and I have the hardware to back it up.
 




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Old 01-02-2008, 11:23 AM   #4
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dsade that is true. sustain an erection is my main problem but i think that the lost of erection is making me not want it as much. i used HCG and ATD for pct after my cycle. i have used SERM everytime before and never really noticed a difference. i might run pct again but add the SERM this time. my cycle length was 12 weeks.
 
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ATD is notorious for absolutely destroying libido.
 




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ya thats why i am trying to run it at such a low dose now. the more i think about it though i think the cause of loss of erection is from a low libido. thats one reason why i am taking diesel test hardcore also. i think i might just save the aspire for a while till i can use when it works like it should. do you suggest doing four weeks of SERM?
 
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ya thats why i am trying to run it at such a low dose now. the more i think about it though i think the cause of loss of erection is from a low libido. thats one reason why i am taking diesel test hardcore also. i think i might just save the aspire for a while till i can use when it works like it should. do you suggest doing four weeks of SERM?
how long since your cycle ended? Was it ur first time running that cycle? When it comes to PCT unless you have done the exact cycle before, its a blind guess predicting when ur libido will come back.
 



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Old 01-04-2008, 04:06 PM   #8
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its been about a month since i ended my cycle. Yes this is the first time i ran it. i knew i was shut down pretty hard. i am seeing all the other results that DTHC claim besides the boost in libido. Today i actually felt more of increase in libido when i woke up.
 
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I think instead of bashing products, you need to look at the fact that you ran a horrible post cycle therapy. ATD should NEVER be used in post cycle therapy, and you have no serm in there. A month sense your cycle ended, or your post cycle therapy? How long did you even run the ATD?

Diesel Test Hardcore is great stuff, and so is aspire36. The fact you ran such a harsh cycle and didn't put much thought into your post cycle therapy is your problem.

The cycle looked pretty good actually, and I'm not trying to bash you bro, but when you bad mouth a supplement that works for 99% of people, I can only say you needed to search post cycle therapy a little harder before you started this cycle. HCG should be used "on" cycle, not in post cycle therapy!!!

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I think instead of bashing products, you need to look at the fact that you ran a horrible post cycle therapy. ATD should NEVER be used in post cycle therapy, and you have no serm in there. A month sense your cycle ended, or your post cycle therapy? How long did you even run the ATD?

Diesel Test Hardcore is great stuff, and so is aspire36. The fact you ran such a harsh cycle and didn't put much thought into your post cycle therapy is your problem.

The cycle looked pretty good actually, and I'm not trying to bash you bro, but when you bad mouth a supplement that works for 99% of people, I can only say you needed to search post cycle therapy a little harder before you started this cycle. HCG should be used "on" cycle, not in post cycle therapy!!!

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i wasnt trying to bad mouth aspire. i said i knew it didnt work because i was shut down. i was making a statement saying this was not working for me during PCT. i have ran serm before and did not get good results from it. i have also used ATD before and that seemed to work better. i did use HCG last 2 weeks i was on and 2 weeks in to pct. i read this protocol on another site. i have been on ATD now for four weeks ramped down. I posted before that i DTHC has lived up to all the claims besides libido boost. Chuck told me on a different thread it might just take longer do to me coming off a hard cycle. Everybody resonds differently to Post Cycle Therapy. I have total confident in aspire, i have used it once before with good results.
 
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People are saying you should hold off on a "review" thread on aspire, or any "natural" libido, test booster, erection product until you feel recovered from your cycle. Aspire isnt a post cycle therapy boners back product for everyone because when people do a cycle the fix to their libido/erections isnt that easy. For some it is, but it all depends on ur body and what you used on cycle.

Anyway u just got flack because people feel you should post a "review" when conditions are more optimal for you to review the product. Like dont review a new song with ear plugs in your ears, right now ur dck is wearing ear plugs.

Also from what I understand the method of action for aspire is that its a strong pde-5 inhib. product. Right now PDE-5 isnt the only reason why ur not getting bonners, its the facilitation of the bonner thats the problem which is probably not happening from low levels of LH, ach or even dopamine.

Throw 2 or 3 Coq DIESEL caps/day into that stack I bet ur bonners will be back.
 



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People are saying you should hold off on a "review" thread on aspire, or any "natural" libido, test booster, erection product until you feel recovered from your cycle. Aspire isnt a post cycle therapy boners back product for everyone because when people do a cycle the fix to their libido/erections isnt that easy. For some it is, but it all depends on ur body and what you used on cycle.

Anyway u just got flack because people feel you should post a "review" when conditions are more optimal for you to review the product. Like dont review a new song with ear plugs in your ears, right now ur dck is wearing ear plugs.

Also from what I understand the method of action for aspire is that its a strong pde-5 inhib. product. Right now PDE-5 isnt the only reason why ur not getting bonners, its the facilitation of the bonner thats the problem which is probably not happening from low levels of LH, ach or even dopamine.

Throw 2 or 3 Coq DIESEL caps/day into that stack I bet ur bonners will be back.
i agree chuck. i will give a review on both products once i am recovered. i think both products are great and i am not too worried about not seeing results. i might give the coq diesel a shot.
 
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i agree chuck. i will give a review on both products once i am recovered. i think both products are great and i am not too worried about not seeing results. i might give the coq diesel a shot.
Im just saying its ok to review DTH now because its advertised as a PCT product, but aspire isnt.
 



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