Arzi75
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I'm contemplating about whether to buy Incarnate or Super Cissus Rx for my next joint-support supp, but not convinced whether I should opt for the 10% (or 5%) in Super Cissus RX or for the 20% extract of Cissus Quadrangularis in Incarnate.
I recall seeing someone claiming adamantly that 10% extract does not equal "better than 5%" or 20% extract equalling better than a 10% extract, but that it's more like a matter of having "different mixture of steroidal properties/anti-oxidants" - does this hold true?
Also if you'd be kind enough to open up the following statement in your Incarnate write-up: "[We chose to use] a 20% extract because we felt it left a significant portion of the herb intact helping to keep its overall antioxidant effects" as I don't get the "herb being intact" part here?
Also does the better "antioxidant effects" of the 20% extract in Incarnate pertain just to the effects it yields on the joints or are there some other anti-oxidant properties towards overall health etc. not specifically mentioned in the write-up or does it just mean that "we chose the 20% extract over the 10 (or 5)% extract, because a 5-10% extract contains simply less antioxidants"?
What about the amount of ketosterones - does 20% translate to simply more ketosterones than the 10% extract and is it a similar mixture of ketosterones or does the 20% extract contain more or less of some of the ketosterones?
I have had problems with both of my knees (still ongoing), back, right elbow and right shoulder, and recently have had my left shoulder aching like crazy.
I have used glucosamine, chondroitin acid and various NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammarory drugs) like Diclofenac and Celecoxib (more recently) for years, but they only help when I'm using them - any time I try cutting any of them, the pains recur almost immediately, so I'm really hoping that either Incarnate or Super Cissus RX would be potent enough to yield some long-term results instead of just short-term pain relief.
I think I'm going to start a log on the product I choose to buy to see if a Cissus-based product can really outperform a handful of prescription drugs and an assortment of other joint supps in alleviating joint pain.
I recall seeing someone claiming adamantly that 10% extract does not equal "better than 5%" or 20% extract equalling better than a 10% extract, but that it's more like a matter of having "different mixture of steroidal properties/anti-oxidants" - does this hold true?
Also if you'd be kind enough to open up the following statement in your Incarnate write-up: "[We chose to use] a 20% extract because we felt it left a significant portion of the herb intact helping to keep its overall antioxidant effects" as I don't get the "herb being intact" part here?
Also does the better "antioxidant effects" of the 20% extract in Incarnate pertain just to the effects it yields on the joints or are there some other anti-oxidant properties towards overall health etc. not specifically mentioned in the write-up or does it just mean that "we chose the 20% extract over the 10 (or 5)% extract, because a 5-10% extract contains simply less antioxidants"?
What about the amount of ketosterones - does 20% translate to simply more ketosterones than the 10% extract and is it a similar mixture of ketosterones or does the 20% extract contain more or less of some of the ketosterones?
I have had problems with both of my knees (still ongoing), back, right elbow and right shoulder, and recently have had my left shoulder aching like crazy.
I have used glucosamine, chondroitin acid and various NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti-inflammarory drugs) like Diclofenac and Celecoxib (more recently) for years, but they only help when I'm using them - any time I try cutting any of them, the pains recur almost immediately, so I'm really hoping that either Incarnate or Super Cissus RX would be potent enough to yield some long-term results instead of just short-term pain relief.
I think I'm going to start a log on the product I choose to buy to see if a Cissus-based product can really outperform a handful of prescription drugs and an assortment of other joint supps in alleviating joint pain.
