Leviathan PCT

[peece]

I am just curious, do you think Leviathan could be used as PCT for Havoc?

 

[john123131]

Leviathan would definitely stack well with a proper PCT... help to get some natural test back up and lean out any of the gains you made...good luck!!!

 

[Palo Alto Labs]

I am just curious, do you think Leviathan could be used as post cycle therapy for Havoc?

Just to be crystal clear.
Leviathan would stack well WITH your PCT products, but it should not be your only PCT product. Also, a lot of people had suggested taking Leviathan WITH Havoc/Epistane, if you are interested in seeing a log on this stack, PM me.

 

[peece]

Just to be crystal clear.
Leviathan would stack well WITH your post cycle therapy products, but it should not be your only PCT product. Also, a lot of people had suggested taking Leviathan WITH Havoc/Epistane, if you are interested in seeing a log on this stack, PM me.

Thankyou for your response, yea I am considering that option. I have bam and Alpha Drive and was considering one more sup.

 

[rpen22]

Thankyou for your response, yea I am considering that option. I have bam and Alpha Drive and was considering one more sup.

Your entire pct for Havoc is Bam, Alpha Drive, and Leviathan?

 

[john123131]

Thankyou for your response, yea I am considering that option. I have bam and Alpha Drive and was considering one more sup.

you mean 1 more supp, besides a serm, ai, etc....correct? (I hope)...if not I think you should take a look on the post cycle therapy thread. If you want help with your pct on what to take just ask...good luck

 

[rpen22]

you mean 1 more supp, besides a serm, ai, etc....correct? (I hope)...if not I think you should take a look on the post cycle therapy thread. If you want help with your post cycle therapy on what to take just ask...good luck

:goodpost:

 

[peece]

Sorry, to clarify torem too, but thanks for the concern, you guys are so thoughtful

 

[john123131]

Sorry, to clarify torem too, but thanks for the concern, you guys are so thoughtful

haha..whhhhhheeeeww...so glad you said that...your right though...everyone is just looking out for you

 

[T H E O R E M]

would it raise any blood pressure issues? having caffiene and stims?

what about Drug screening...would leviathan have any issues?

 

[Quil]

Just to be crystal clear.
Leviathan would stack well WITH your post cycle therapy products, but it should not be your only PCT product. Also, a lot of people had suggested taking Leviathan WITH Havoc/Epistane, if you are interested in seeing a log on this stack, PM me.

I'm actually looking into running this stack now, but I don't have PM capabilities.

 

[john123131]

pretty sure everyone can pm bro...try again

 

[Iron Warrior]

pretty sure everyone can pm bro...try again

Nope, only board supporters, sponsors, or gold members have PM access

 

[Quil]

Nope, only board supporters, sponsors, or gold members have PM access

John, can I shoot you an email instead?

 

[john123131]

[email protected] or
[email protected]

 

[peece]

Leviathan in cart/purchased, waiting for shipping and delivery

 

[Quil]

Email sent

 

[BuckeyeMuscle]

I'm actually looking into running this stack now, but I don't have PM capabilities.

I personally would not take anything else while on cycle. Save everything for your PCT. Sure, leviathan would be a great addition to your PCT, but not even close to be enough as a main part of it. An example would be like, a SERM + an AI + Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support + Leviathan.

 

[Quil]

I personally would not take anything else while on cycle. Save everything for your post cycle therapy. Sure, leviathan would be a great addition to your PCT, but not even close to be enough as a main part of it. An example would be like, a SERM + an AI + Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support + Leviathan.

I'm not sure you understood what I posted...that or I was unclear myself

I'm going to run a stack of Havoc/Levi exclusively as my "cycle", and then do a full PCT afterward. I may (and probably will) throw Levi into the PCT, but that by no means would be the core of it.

 

[john123131]

sounds good bro.I sent you that email too
john

I'm not sure you understood what I posted...that or I was unclear myself

I'm going to run a stack of Havoc/Levi exclusively as my "cycle", and then do a full post cycle therapy afterward. I may (and probably will) throw Levi into the PCT, but that by no means would be the core of it.

 

[Quil]

Yep, got it and read both logs. Sounds like the hammer I need right about now...I'll let you know how it goes. I'm out of town all week for work next week, so I'll be starting 5/7.

 

[BuckeyeMuscle]

I'm not sure you understood what I posted...that or I was unclear myself

I'm going to run a stack of Havoc/Levi exclusively as my "cycle", and then do a full post cycle therapy afterward. I may (and probably will) throw Levi into the post cycle therapy, but that by no means would be the core of it.

What I meant was, there is no need to use any other supplements in conjunction with Havoc (besides the obvious support supplements, like AI Cycle Support). Save Leviathan for your PCT.

 

[Quil]

What I meant was, there is no need to use any other supplements in conjunction with Havoc (besides the obvious support supplements, like AI Cycle Support). Save Leviathan for your post cycle therapy.

I see now. Well, that presents a bit of a quandry for me then...I really had already chosen Levi to go with since I'm trying to wrap up a cutting cycle, and wanted to throw the Havoc in there to give me some extra punch. Do you think I should go another route with Levi to finish off the cutter and then kick off the lean bulk with Havoc?

 

[BuckeyeMuscle]

I see now. Well, that presents a bit of a quandry for me then...I really had already chosen Levi to go with since I'm trying to wrap up a cutting cycle, and wanted to throw the Havoc in there to give me some extra punch. Do you think I should go another route with Levi to finish off the cutter and then kick off the lean bulk with Havoc?

I would either cut with Leviathan prior to your Havoc cycle....or do clean bulk with the Havoc, then start cutting in your post cycle therapy (using leviathan + proper PCT).

 

[p951]

I received (2) 4-pack Leviathon sample packs and have been using only 1 pill per day, as I am rather sensitive to stimulants. The only beef I have with using these immediately after your "on" cycle and during PCT is that I don't feel hungry ever. If you can tolerate drinking 4 of your meals and eating the other two, then you may be fine. After a bulking cycle I believe you should continue eating a high calorie intake during PCT and a loss of appetite does not lend itself well to eating much.

 

[thebigt]

BUCKEYE I have to disagree with you. i finished a epi cycle 3 weeks ago and had less than stellar results. i hurt my forearm because i was lifting more than my joints and tendons could keep up with. i am on incarnate now and pain is 90% gone. i will never do another cycle without incarnate. or at least some cissus product.

 

[BuckeyeMuscle]

BUCKEYE I have to disagree with you. i finished a epi cycle 3 weeks ago and had less than stellar results. i hurt my forearm because i was lifting more than my joints and tendons could keep up with. i am on incarnate now and pain is 90% gone. i will never do another cycle without incarnate. or at least some cissus product.

I know epi/havoc users have been reporting sore joints, so cissus is fine on cycle. I just think using a thermogenic/creatine/NO etc... is useless on cycle.

 

[thebigt]

sorry for the misunderstanding. i sincerly reccomend incarnate or at least cissus on epi/havoc. damn hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Chippewa]

Can Leviathan be used DURING a cutting cycle with a prosteroid? I'm thinking, for example, about whether it could stack with Trenadrol, which is a well-known cutting hormone. My theory is that the Trenadrol would preserve muscle and strength while Leviathon does its thing, too.

 

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Can Leviathan be used DURING a cutting cycle with a prosteroid? I'm thinking, for example, about whether it could stack with Trenadrol, which is a well-known cutting hormone. My theory is that the Trenadrol would preserve muscle and strength while Leviathon does its thing, too.

I would use Leviathan during your PCT. Here is my reasoning. Your taking a steroid. No thermogenic you could take is even CLOSE to being as strong as it. If you don't see the results with a steroid, you're obviously doing something wrong and a thermogenic would be useless. You can only cut/gain so much in a month long cycle, and its all going to be from that PH/PS, not some thermogenic/creatine/etc...

 

[thebigt]

btw i was smart enough to run paravol while on epi. one of the best ideas ive had in a while. started it a month before cycle ran it for the entire month cycle and am on 3rd month. cissus "incarnate", and paravol would be great to run during cycle. like buckeye said everything else would be better used after cycle. if your looking for something to stack w / trenadrol to cut fat try mega zol or winstrol both are good. good luck.

 

[BuckeyeMuscle]

btw i was smart enough to run paravol while on epi. one of the best ideas ive had in a while. started it a month before cycle ran it for the entire month cycle and am on 3rd month. cissus "incarnate", and paravol would be great to run during cycle. like buckeye said everything else would be better used after cycle. if your looking for something to stack w / trenadrol to cut fat try mega zol or winstrol both are good. good luck.

agreed

 

[BigCasino]

btw i was smart enough to run paravol while on epi. one of the best ideas ive had in a while. started it a month before cycle ran it for the entire month cycle and am on 3rd month. cissus "incarnate", and paravol would be great to run during cycle. like buckeye said everything else would be better used after cycle. if your looking for something to stack w / trenadrol to cut fat try mega zol or winstrol both are good. good luck.

Why, did Paravol keep your balls from shrinking up or something?