- 09-30-2008, 01:43 PM
what results have you guys had and how long did it take? Ii am a big guy and pretty can tolerate any stim thrown at me. I hate that about me only because other people talk about I feel this and that yet all i feel is extremely hungry now. I don't know if i have high or low test but when ever i take something with any kind of test enhancement i get HUNGRY, HORNIER, AND HAIRIER! Should I do what one of the other guys is doing and take 2 morn, two 4 hours later and 2 4 hours after that?
- 09-30-2008, 05:56 PM
- 09-30-2008, 08:14 PM
Would it be possible for someone to post the the positive effect of each ingredient listed on the label?
I'm running Stoked/ActXtreme/Levi-Reloaded right now as part of a recomp/cut and would love to know what each part of Levi is doing for me.
10-02-2008, 04:58 PM
10-13-2008, 10:26 AM
Diindolylmethane may help support the activity of specific enzymes that improve estrogen metabolism. Research shows diindolylmethane helps increase the level of "good" estrogens (2-hydroxyestrogen) while reducing the level of "bad" estrogens (16-hydroxyestrogen). Diindolylmethane helps to eliminate active estrogen from the male body by actively promoting its conversion into the "good" metabolites. These "good" metabolites then work to free up testosterone by bumping it off the testosterone-binding proteins. The end result of this is a healthier balance of testosterone to estrogen and increased free testosterone circulating in the body. The ?good' estrogen metabolites, along with increased free testosterone promoted by DIM, increase fat mobilization and fat-burning metabolism
Tribulus Terrestris 80% Saponins 20% Protodioscin:
The Tribulus Terrestris used in Leviathan is standardized to 80% Saponins, 20% Protodioscin...the highest grade extract available, and it has been shown to raise testosterone levels safely and naturally, and is rumored to be the secret behind the success of many top Bulgarian weightlifters. By raising testosterone levels safely and naturally, and then keeping them elevated for long periods, Tribulus Terrestris will increase lean muscle, strength and sexual performance. Instead of being a hormonal testosterone precursor, Tribulus Terrestris leads to a rise in the production of luteinizing hormone. When luteinizing hormone levels are increased, the natural production of testosterone also increases.
Yohimbine HCl increases the amount of non-esterfied fatty acids (NEFAs), a product of lipolysis (the breaking down of fat), in the bloodstream in both lean and obese individuals. Yohimbine has also been shown to possess appetite suppressant potential and decreases energy intake which allows you to exercise longer. Yohimbine stimulates fat loss by stimulating the increased production of Norephinephrine by the body while acting as an Alpha Receptor blocker on adipose tissue cells. With the majority of alpha receptors blocked, greater numbers of beta receptors are left open for the increased volume of the fat burning hormone Norephinephrine to attach to. The binding of the Norephinephrine to the adipose tissue beta receptors stimulates Lipolysis of greater numbers of the fat cells.
Brand new to the industry and at least 5 times more expensive then regular Yohimbine HCl, 11-Hydroxy Yohimbine still produces all the same great fat burning effects of Yohimbine but instead of only staying active in your system for 1 to 2 hours like Yohimbine HCl, 11-Hydroxy Yohimbine actually stays active in your system for 6 to 8 hours. This increased duration of activity allows for significantly more fat oxidation to occur.
Caffeine is a general central nervous system stimulant that increases mental stimulation and incites the release of epinephrine (adrenaline). Through a process called Lipolysis, Caffeine stimulates mobilization of fatty acids which may have effects on fat oxidation for weight loss or endurance performance. Caffeine also encourages the release of calcium into muscle cells, where it can stimulate more powerful muscle contractions that helps in increased athletic performance.
Coleus Forskohili 20% Forskolin:
Forskolin, the active component of Coleus Forskohili, works by activating the enzyme adenylate cyclase. When adenylate cyclase is activated in the body it then converts to cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP). Dramatically increasing levels of cAMP has many effects for fat loss purposes. The main purpose revolves around the activation of cAMP-dependent protein kinase, which in turn activates hormone-sensitive lipase (HSL), which ultimately breaks down fat and releases it as free fatty acids in the bloodstream through lipolysis. In addition, there is an added bonus; forskolin also acts as a thyroid stimulant, most likely through a cAMP-mediated process. As most of us know, the thyroid is responsible for metabolic rate via the hormones it releases in to the blood stream. Therefore, increasing production of the thyroid through Forskolin supplementation results in an increase in metabolism.
A very new ingredient to the industry Acacia Rigidula has show promising benefits in helping to stimulate metabolic rate and suppressing appetite. Leviathan Reloaded is one of the very first products to bring this powerful new ingredient to market.
Hordenine has been included in Reloaded for multiple reasons. The first and most important reason for Hordenine?s inclusion was its ability to stimulate production of Norephinephrine. As we know from the write up on Yohimbine HCl and 11-Hydroxy-Yohimbine the binding of the Norephinephrine to the adipose tissue beta receptors stimulates Lipolysis of greater numbers of the fat cells. When Lipolysis occurs, the released lipids are burned for energy and a reduction in body fat percentage begins to take place. Two other functions of Hordenine are its ability to slow digestion, which leads to appetite suppression, and its ability to increase athletic performance due to classification of being a bronchodilator. Bronchodilator?s expand the airways and improve the breathing capacity of humans.
PEA is a neuromodulator naturally derived from the cocoa bean involved in elevating mood, focus, mental alertness, concentration, energy and well being. PEA enhances the transmission of dopamine and norepinephrine and is your body?s most powerful natural stimulant. PEA provides the body with energy and focus without your body building up a tolerance or makin you crash.
Velvet Bean Extract 20% l-dopa (Mucuna Pruriens):
The Velvet Bean in Leviathan Reloaded stimulates increased dopamine levels through the dopamine precurser l-dopa. L-Dopa-induced GHRH release leads to the pituitary gland increasing the production of HGH (Human Growth Hormone). An increase in HGH levels can increase the body's ability to build lean muscle and break down fat. Velvet bean also increases testosterone levels, through prolactin (testosterone regulating hormone) inhibition. Too much prolactin in your body can lead to testosterone suppression. Velvet bean has also been shown to help you maintain healthy cholesterol and blood sugar levels while showing promising diuretic effects.
Phyllanthus Niruri 10%:
New to the fitness community, Phyllanthus Niruri has been a well know tonic in natural health communities for some time. Phyllanthus Niruri is rich in numerous types of lignans which are the key to the potent effectiveness of this ingredient. Just asmall sampling of the Lignen?s present in Phyllanthus Niruri are Linum flavum, L. leonii, and urinatetralin. Phyllanthus Niruri was included in Leviathan Reloaded for its hypotensive effects. Numerous studies have been done on Phyllanthus Niruri that shows its ability to help lower blood pressure. This is essential to Leviathan Reloaded?s effectiveness because it helps counter act Yohimbine?s tendency to raise blood pressure. Phllanthus Nirruri has also shown significant diuretic properties as well as an ability to help regulate blood sugar levels.
Ficus Bengalensis Extract 10:1:
Ficus Bengalensis was included in Leviathan Reloaded based on it clinical effectiveness in balancing blood sugar and Insulin levels. While brand new to the bodybuilding community, Ficus Bengalensis has been extensively studied in conjuncture with diabetes. Ficus Bengalensis has been show to help regulate insulin and blood sugar levels in diabetic patients. Now what does this mean to the individual looking to lose weight? Basically by restoring insulin sensitivity and regulating Blood sugar levels you are able to lose weight in a healthy manner. Ficus Bengalensis has been shown to have a positive effect on controlling Reactive Hypoglycemia, a recurrent episode of excessive insulin release triggered 2 to 4 hours after a high carbohydrate meal, which contributes heavily to weight gain and obesity.
10-14-2008, 11:05 PM
Can any of the ingredients in LR make you fail a piss test. I'm just curious about PEA or acacia since they are potent analogues. Just a thought
10-15-2008, 10:28 AM
10-15-2008, 11:49 AM
Re-enlisting. Thanks for correcting me on the exact definition of a herb compared to an analogue(s).
10-15-2008, 12:14 PM
I just purchased the levithian reloaded/incarnate stack, got two questions
1. Would you recommend throwing in a cortisol control supp such as holy basil extract to counter any effects of dieting and stress caused while cutting? I didn't see any cortisol controlling substances in LR
2. I want to stack the LR with ephedrine hcl 2x per day or one with each dose of LR at 25mg, do you forsee this as a possible issue with blood pressure or if i take blood pressure supps would this counter any possible issues stacking e/LR could cause? I am very tolerable to ephedrine btw and am taking it in the form of an over the counter known as "Bronkaid"
on a side note I have used incarnate twice before this and I want to make it a permanent staple in my supplement arsenal, nothing can compare to the athletic performance increase I get from it or the joint relief, thanks for making an outstanding product...hope LR impresses me just as much
10-15-2008, 01:00 PM
10-15-2008, 01:00 PM
10-15-2008, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the feedback Buckeye, I think im going to take some additional bp supps to be on the safe side.
Im going to stack LR w/ ephedrine 25mg for day 1 and as dosage of LR ramps up i will break the ephedrine into 12.5mg doses, I already took my first dose of LR and ephredine (25mg) over 2 hours ago and I feel just fine, no jittery cracked out feelings. Just a slight warming sensation and increased focus. I can't wait to workout and today and try tossing in the incarnate, should be a good day
10-15-2008, 02:46 PM
10-15-2008, 03:16 PM
how come there's 2 different directions on how to start it. the website is pretty different from the bottle directions.
1 1 1 2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1 1 2 2
1 1 1 1 2 2 2
1 1 1 1 1 1 2
0 0 1 1 1 1
10-15-2008, 09:20 PM
10-15-2008, 10:23 PM
10-17-2008, 11:36 AM
Just got to full dosage of LR, Still no negative sides w/ ephredine and I bought some Holy Basil extract and am taking it in two dosages of the active ingredient of 18 mg each time, one morning one late afternoon. When I'm all done with this cutting cycle (about 4 weeks) I will post some before and after results. Been stickin to my diet, cardio and weight training regimen. All lifts have started to go up, I feel very optimistic about this cut already.
10-17-2008, 01:03 PM
11-01-2008, 11:12 PM
11-10-2008, 10:03 AM
11-14-2008, 04:34 PM
I've been taking Leviathan and Incarnate for about 4 weeks now. I just had a flu shot (manditory for military) and my arm is killing me. Not where the poke was, but my whole arm. Very different pain than what it usually is. Is this from the Leviathan and/or Incarnate or is it probably just from the shot it self? Any ideas? It's been about 5hrs since the shot and pain has not subsided at all. It hasn't gotten worse or migrated either. So that's a good thing right?
11-14-2008, 06:31 PM
11-25-2008, 09:45 PM
12-27-2008, 09:17 PM
01-01-2009, 06:00 AM
01-04-2009, 05:50 PM
I'll have word tomorrow on when we will see at NP, there was a customs delay.
01-11-2009, 11:49 AM
04-25-2009, 11:55 PM
Leviathan and DCP - Been checking for 2 weeks and this is still out of stock. Any word on when this will be available?
04-27-2009, 11:56 AM
05-02-2009, 03:51 AM
Could i make a suggestion as a regular user of leviathan, would it be possible to change the tribulus, for horny goat weed? I just think that this would make leviathan even more special than it already is.
Trib does have some effect in humans, but not noticeable, it works much better in sheep, horny goat weed works great on goats, and on humans, ive been stacking it with leviathan and my libido has gone through the roof.
Horny Goat weed (Epimedium sagittatum) is a Chinese herb that has long been used as a powerful tonic to enhance sexual function for both men and women. Its active ingredient, Icariin, is believed to function in the body similar to sidenafil (Viagra). Custom Capsule’s Horny goat weed is standardized to 10% icariin.
where is it found
Horny Goat weed is native to China.
Improves erectile function in men
Typical dose 500mg
Pregnant or nursing women should not take horny goat weed. Individuals currently taking medication for sexual function, such as sidenafil (Viagra), should consult a doctor prior to taking horny goat weed. Discontinue use and consult a doctor if side effects occur such as dizziness, painful erection, or an erection that will not go away.
pregnancy / nursing
Due to lack of safety data, pregnant or nursing women should not take horny goat weed.
The other one i thought of was 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran
But im guessing its quite an expensive raw.
3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran is a principle lignan found in the roots of the Stinging nettle (Urtica dioica). Nettle root extracts composed of similar compounds have been shown to be very effective at binding to the human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG). SHBG is a circulating molecule in the body that binds the sex hormones along with albumin, since the sex hormones are not freely soluble in blood. In men binding to the SHBG appears to displace circulating testosterone to the body tissue, essentially increasing levels of free testosterone. Lignan binding of SHBG, however, also seems to prevent testosterone’s harmful effects on the prostate, and its conversion into estrogen and DHT, the form of testosterone linked to prostate growth and hair loss.
Hryb DJ, Khan MS, Romas NA, Rosner W. 1995. “The effect of extracts of the roots of the stinging nettle (Urtica dioica) on the interaction of SHBG with its receptor on human prostatic membranes.” Planta Med. 61(1):31-2.
Schottner, M., et al. 1997. “Lignans from the roots of Urtica dioica and their metabolites bind to human sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG).” Planta Med. 63(6): 529-32.
Sorry i don mean to undermine your product because like i said since i did a sponsored log i have been using it in cycles ever since, and it works, hands down, but i just felt it could be updated slightly, making it the most potent oral fat burner available.
Take care Russian.
Gause institute member
Need2slin designer.Product designer/ **** admin.
05-02-2009, 05:19 PM
If she's NOT seeing results with exercise and diet modification then:
a. Her diet "modification" is not that great (DIET is the KEY to fat loss, and if manipulated correctly, then fat loss WILL occur) - i.e. eliminating or cutting out carbohydrates, or very low calories are NOT the answer;
b. She's not doing the right kind of exercise for fat loss;
c. Shs'e not getting enough recovery and overtraining;
d. She's been doing the same thing for too long and her body has adapted;
e. She's lean enough already (<10-15% BF) and is at the stage where she needs a little "extra help" to lose that last 1-2% BF.
06-18-2009, 09:13 PM
I am starting LR and LeanXtreme stack in about 4 days. I really wanted the dcp/LR but unfortunately i think DCP is no longer coming back. Anyways.. Ive never taken anything before besides some protein shakes and am just wondering if there is anything i should lookout for. I did my homework on this stuff before ordering either product and it seems like it will work, im just trying to lose some weight and shed some fat. and of course i workout hard and am starting a strict diet for the month ill be on this cycle. Any comments or anything would be greatly appreciative.
07-08-2009, 06:38 PM
I passed 3 bottles of this already. Well the first 2 was reloaded, then waited a month, then the 3rd was the original Leviathan. I gave my coworker some and he loves it, He already lost a few pounds and i only gave him 8 capsules lol. Well not just by sitting down, the pills gave him energy to actually start hiking and working out. I think leviathan works better if you only take 2 a day, because if you take 4 a day, after the first 2 weeks you wont feel it much. I've been taking 2 a day for a month and it's been giving me the same consistent energy.
01-03-2010, 12:10 AM
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