I've come to the realization that PS/PH's are a F"ing joke!!
I'm in a cycle now and it is my last. If I ever do another cycle it will be a 12 week Test Only. Barring that, it's back to Fish Oil, Multi and BCAA's, which along with good diet, is where all my real gains ever came from anyway.
So, if you're a skinny fat guy who gets all giddy about 20# of water weight and a little extra strenght, and if you don't mind those sides, PH,PS suppliers want you baby!
For anyone else, I highly recommend not putting your toe in the AAS water. Either jump in head first or just stay dry. That middle ground is not worth it.
I would not say all PH are bs. The original superdrol f'in rocked, and genera supps epidrol was a very decent product that I have used with no sides. As far as the post about water weight from PHs, superdrol gains were very dry and I did not experience the hair shedding or gyno. I am sure something would have happened if I continued M-drol.
That stuff is just not right. At first I thought it was bunk, but I have 2 bottles with different batch numbers, and both effected me the same way and this was after only three days. I had never gotten anywhere near the sides on longer cycles than the three days on m-drol.
Now, myself and those I know who take/have taken it are bodybuilders who are already lean and can tell the difference between Water/Muscle/ Fat and who also know the difference between real strength gain and CNS adaptation. If you're really gaining all dry muscle, god bless you man!
Also, it's unlikely that you would experience Gyno or other E related sides while on cycle with this stuff. It's the E rebound after a bull**** PCT that is more likely to nail you there.
Anyways, my original post was basically comparing the good experiences I had with the original SD and the absolutely HORRIFIC 3 day experience of CEL M-Drol. At 20mg a day I felt like curling up in a ball and dying. Dry mouth, lethargy, flu-like symptoms, and no appetite.
do one if you think you stop getting gains in the 3rd or 4th.
my friend did 10/20/30 because or time issue. pick what ever you think is best. if you are a good planner judge by how you are feeling. if its been awhile just do 10/20/20 or crap even 10/10/20 to minimizse sides ya know? thats what i would do but i get scared and worry. i dont think doing 30 in the fifth week is good also. have fun cuz i know it will be! and
dont drink alchy for 1 weeks before and during your pct and 1 week after. so thats like around 10 weeks no drinky drink which sucks for you but im serious! just DD thats what i do.