Lower back pain with ProHormones
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06-06-2008, 02:39 PM
The Creatine is just going to put extra stress on the kidneys. This is one of the reasons why you need to drink extra water on a creatine cycle. It doesn't matter if the water retention occurs in the kidney or not. That is not the point. Another reason why people will tell you to wait till after your cycle to use creatine. Creatine just makes your kidneys works over-time.
06-06-2008, 02:43 PM
To the OP - Taurine is tried and true. Most people can alleviate them in the 5-8 grams daily range. You can buy it anywhere in bulk for relatively little money.
06-06-2008, 02:47 PM
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06-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Does anyone else experience similar pains, (mine are focused directly on the spine where it hits the tail bone) from drinking caffeine. I realized that it was always soon after my daily coffee or stim that I was experiencing extreme stiffness in my lower back. Am I right that it can be caffeine related?
06-08-2008, 01:19 PM
I experienced back pumps from M1T and no amount of taurine or water alleviated this intense, F$%KING INTENSE pain!
09-12-2008, 09:19 PM
I have recently (the last 4 days) begun to experience intense back pumps, particularly on my left side during a prolonged cycle of H-drol at 75mg daily (6 weeks). It is especially painful, almost unbearable during lower body exercises that emphasize the low back, aka, all the good ones. I also experienced this during the old days on M1T. I am not sure what the cause is, the kidneys swelling is definitely a possibility; I am also on creatine ethyl ester, but I have other suspicions as well. Would anyone else like to contribute to this common problem? Thanks
09-12-2008, 09:25 PM
I'm not too sure what the exact reason is or if it was pure muscular or a combination of swollen/stressed organs. What ended up happening for me, was stopping all methylated steroids and it still took a long ass time to stop having those pains. A lot of people didnt get them like I did though.
09-12-2008, 11:27 PM
I got backpumps almost immediately from Havoc at 30-40mg. Taurine helped but did not completely solve it. Perhaps I needed more, and more water. Next cycle I'll increase both. They really are a beezy, aren't they?
10-06-2008, 03:33 AM
i sometimes get those similar pains on the lower back,and im sure its the kidneys thats swelled.if you lay on your belly it relieves the pain sometimes because if you lay on your back your heavier organs tends to put more pressure on it.so the next time your kidneys hurts you should try it,it might help!
10-06-2008, 10:27 PM
What support supps are you running?
Liver Support (dosage depends on brand)
Hawthrone Berry (1000mg/day)
10-15-2008, 04:57 PM
I am currently in week 2 of MD1T and getting some pretty bad back pumps. Just added Taurine and it's already a little better. There's another site where there are a few threads concerning this subject. The doctor who runs that site says the back pain from prohormones is definitely kidney and not muscle related.
10-15-2008, 06:43 PM
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10-18-2008, 06:35 AM
For me I get:
1. Hardcore pumps where the tail bone joins spine area
2. All muscle not kidney pain
3. Almost cannot walk from it
4. hardcore thirst all the time NO matter how much water I drink.
10-21-2008, 04:42 PM
10-21-2008, 08:17 PM
drinking alot of water may relieve the pain for a little while, until you pee and then its back again,sort of like your kidneys have to be inflated to stop it from hurting, but once you pee, it deflates and your back to square one again! thats how it is for me!
10-21-2008, 09:42 PM
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02-12-2009, 09:00 PM
I got killer back pumps from trenadrol both times i used it. The last time was so bad i cut the ph cycle short a week. I could not even work out it was so bad. I bet it was kidney related . Water is key in all questions about this. Taurine is very good also as everyone has said. But no drinking and no creatine. They both take water away from where it is needed. So With over a gallon of water a day and taurine it should help or cure the problem
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