Tryptophan or 5-HTP
- 04-01-2008, 10:56 PM
Tryptophan or 5-HTP
For the purpose of reducing anxiety and promoting relaxation, which would be better?
I don't understand the science too well, but I understand that the general pathway involved is Tryptophan -> 5-HTP -> Serotonin. Obviously the goal is to potentiate serotonin.
So, which of the two supplements would be better to ultimately increase serotonin levels? Or is using both the key?
- 04-01-2008, 11:01 PM
Xanax! Can't miss there. But between those two I say 5-HTP hands down. What exactly is your goal hear slamacama? Cause I have bad ass anxiety too and all I do for it is take phosphates and it seem's to be helping alot.
04-01-2008, 11:17 PM
I basically have some kind of social anxiety, and I often don't enjoy things as much as I know I used to. So I want to see if serotonin is the cause of this.
04-01-2008, 11:20 PM
04-01-2008, 11:43 PM
Bulk 5-HTP would be the most cost effective. I've been using it for a while and find myself to be in a better mood.
04-02-2008, 04:39 AM
5-HTP actually gave me a bit of a narcotic effect similar to vicodin which I do not like. My body relaxes and my mind slows just a touch, but I feel as if my heart rate/BP increases, and being prone to anxiety that can sometimes trigger it for me. I prefer tryptophan.
04-02-2008, 07:21 AM
Try Phenibut for your anxiety, this should help improve your mood more-so than using 5htp, particularly if your seretonin levels are quite normal. I suffered from anxiety for a while, and phenibut appears to kick me into touch. I like to combine it with GS's Adrenaline for wakeful energy + anxiety free mood.
Xanax, haha great stuff! I tried this for the first time in Vietnam a few years back, the coach rides were like 9-10 hours so I'd take one of these and wake up refreshed at the destination point! Or in my case I woke up as the coach had broken down with a flat tyre, quite refreshed I hopped off the bus, single-handedly removed the wheel + nuts & replaced it with the spare one as the 4ft driver was too malnourished to unwrench them himself. Ultimately saving the day and being the hero for many weary travellers. True story. Xanax... for winners! [Rambling gibberish rant over]
04-02-2008, 11:17 PM
04-03-2008, 10:03 AM
I think a couple of days on the a couple of days off work for myself. How heavy are you dosing it? It gives a good nights rest too that's for sure. Try L-tyrosine on the off-days then assess how you're getting on.
On the 5-htp/seretonin discussion - are you consuming much milk? What is your diet like? A few bowls of hot cereal & milk or to drink will increase seretonin. Turkey, milk, whole grains, bananas, eggs all contain tryptopan.
04-03-2008, 01:18 PM
Just dosed 5-HTP once at 100mg last night and I think my body felt more comfortable, but I'll see what it does in the next few days.
04-03-2008, 10:00 PM
See how you go with the St.John's Wort, it has mixed results - I was one of the ones to feel depressed using it. And even though its herbal its still strong.
Talking of herbs there's a few to help with anxiety, such as Skullcap which is mildly sedating, Kava kava, peppermint. Other herbs such as chamomile, sandalwood, jasmine and rose are all helpful herbs for anxiety. Lavender is well known for its abilities to calm and sooth. You can easily add it in bathwater or even in a cup of tea. It's also popular with aromatherapy, candles, lotions and sprays as well.
Lastly, several people use the herb Valerian at night time. Gives a very deep relaxing sleep. Valerian is a natural sedative and analgesic, and is a good way for anxiety sufferers to catch some good sleep.
04-04-2008, 02:25 PM
04-08-2008, 09:54 AM
07-08-2008, 04:22 PM
I also liked PowerFull as a sleep aide, but have less long term experience with PowerFull to adamently vouch for it.
08-12-2008, 11:27 PM
I avoided scripts for my anxiety for a long time, and tried what you are trying. 5htp made me sleepy and crappy. Melatonin worked on sleepless nights, but I always recognized this way too late. After years of trying everything theraputic from breathing to journaling, which help short term, I went to a doc. First was effexor and xanax. Effexor was bad news and I never filled the xanax. Then he wanted to try effexor and lithium after I complained about the effexor and all the negatives I had researched on it. I said no way. Then came lexapro and I haven't looked back. My moods are better and I am a lot less nervous/anxious. No sexual sides for me. I do find that I don't get those all-out happy go lucky goofy days like I used to, which I miss, but that's just the medicine keeping me from being manic.
08-12-2008, 11:44 PM
Having used both, I am going to have to go with Tryptophan. Wish I could qualify it a little better for you, but tryptophan is such a natural relaxation. 5-HTP just feels..odd.
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08-14-2008, 10:01 PM
when do you take your trytophan?
With all these stacks I tryed taking it earlier, at eight o clock(between meals, and go to bed at twelve) and it seemed to make me too relaxed whereas I didnt feel like doing my nighty chores before bed. I'm trying taking it the meal before my last meal.
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