OK here it goes I'm new to this site some of my friends at the gym turned me onto it. Said that they got a lot of info off here I'm 6'5" 315lbs need to burn some fat but wanna gain a lot of MUSCLE!!! I'm looking for real results can anyone suggest some very good first stacks that can help me blow the walls apart at the gym? hopefully you guys can help me out, never know I might actually learn some stuff and be able to return the favor in the future!!!!
I do not post much on this board but I have to chime in here.
You need to work on your diet until you can lose some body fat naturally
before you attempt to try "Havoc" or anything along those lines. Any side affects that come with those products are going to be added to the side effects that your body has now with you being 315 lbs. If you currently do not use steroids, which from what i can gather from your question you do not, then you are not healthy right now so adding anything anabolic to your body when you are like you are is suicide.
This is a great board so congrats for joining here to get some help. Seeing as there are many informed people who post on here, I can tell you that you are going to receive a lot of useful help - as long as you learn how that helps comes across.
No one is going to give you a laundry list of "supplements" to use nor will they "yes" you to death just so you get answers that you want to hear. As you can already see from the responses to your questions, the people here want to help you but they are only going to help you in a (relatively) safe manner.
I can tell you that I was 300 lbs at 5'8'' from when i was age 11 until about 18 when i got down to 240. I bounced up and down until I was 21 when i decided enough is enough. I benched 400 lbs but looked like shiiaaat. I learned how to eat clean and I learned how to work out intensely - both of which I thought I was doing all along but was not even close. I got down to a ripped 165 still only at 5"8'' by 24. Then from there I added muscle and stayed fairly lean up until now at 39. I am currently 210 at approx 8% body fat and I only go up to 12% bf when i go on excess calories from time to time to keep my metabolism guessing. While some people ask me or simply think on their own that i look like this because of drugs, I am proud that I did it all without steroids or "pro hormones" or any prescription drugs (actually when i started, I did it without the Internet as it was not "up yet"). I have also successfully trained many many clients using similar techniques over the last 15 years. I learned from books and by talking to people who were jacked in my gym and then i modified their techniques from trial and error based upon my not using AAS just like you can now do on this board.
Six months ago I started my first run of a drug. I am on HRT now using a test cream and i have been on for only 6 months. While I can tell you it does help keep me from gaining weight due to low test, it is not as anabolic as I have seen some of the supplements recommend on this board are that is for sure.
you have to be careful.
good luck and keep an open mind with these guys. This is the cheapest way to gain wealth of knowledge - you just have to realize it.
peace!
Popeye
