Originally Posted by quigs

Yeah, used one of those butane torch lighters. I held it as long as I could, but I'm not a smoker and it doesn't take much for me to start coughing. Plus it seemed pretty harsh, much moreso than bud.

hmmmm.....you need to try 20x or above then! harsh yes but not as hard to hold in as bud.

Originally Posted by quigs

I grabbed some of the kona kava a while back (just the ground root) and did the whole extraction deal with the little cheese cloth baggie there. I felt a bit of a buzz the 1st time I used it, but nothing since. I've even gone beyond double dosing and still nada.

I'm wondering if I'd be better served just eating the powder...although it is a ****load to get down.

I just bought a large bag of the pure root powder. I don't have a problem just downing things...would it be okay just to blend the root powder in a blender with some milk/protein and just drink it without extracting? I have a high tolerance for ****ty tasting foods...so Its no problem downing it...i'm just super lazy with this whole extracting thing. I'm still waiting for it to arrive, i ordered it from the kona kava farm you linked me too.

Any advice would help...

Originally Posted by SelfKnowledge

I just bought a large bag of the pure root powder. I don't have a problem just downing things...would it be okay just to blend the root powder in a blender with some milk/protein and just drink it without extracting? I have a high tolerance for ****ty tasting foods...so Its no problem downing it...i'm just super lazy with this whole extracting thing. I'm still waiting for it to arrive, i ordered it from the kona kava farm you linked me too.

Any advice would help...

haha sounds like a plan man.... prepare to have a wierd ass feeling in ur mouth though. In all honesty.. unless ur worried about a drug test or its super against your religion or something....just by some weed lol. I just got blitzed for $5 man lol waaay cheaper than enough kava to get the same high.

Originally Posted by brywal312

haha sounds like a plan man.... prepare to have a wierd ass feeling in ur mouth though. In all honesty.. unless ur worried about a drug test or its super against your religion or something....just by some weed lol. I just got blitzed for $5 man lol waaay cheaper than enough kava to get the same high.

I used to be the biggest pot head man....but I've been clean for 3 months due to a city job that I will be tested for within the next week or two. The only thing that keeps my mind off of it was my girl and bodybuilding. My girl is pissing me off right now, things aren't going so well...so i'm looking for the closest weed substitute that will let me pass a drug test!...I used to drink in these times...but I don't want to ruin my gains! I need something to get my mind off of everything...I get a ton of anxiety at night and its hard for me to get a good sleep.

Originally Posted by SelfKnowledge

I used to be the biggest pot head man....but I've been clean for 3 months due to a city job that I will be tested for within the next week or two. The only thing that keeps my mind off of it was my girl and bodybuilding. My girl is pissing me off right now, things aren't going so well...so i'm looking for the closest weed substitute that will let me pass a drug test!...I used to drink in these times...but I don't want to ruin my gains! I need something to get my mind off of everything...I get a ton of anxiety at night and its hard for me to get a good sleep.

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/1...robalance.html

Originally Posted by yeahright

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/1...robalance.html

i second that!

Originally Posted by yeahright

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/1...robalance.html

Does it have any side effects like phenibut? I read the review right below it and it said its very similar. I have to wake up in the morning so I can't feel like crap every morning after taking it.

Originally Posted by poopypants

i second that!

Details please!

Originally Posted by SelfKnowledge

Does it have any side effects like phenibut? I read the review right below it and it said its very similar. I have to wake up in the morning so I can't feel like crap every morning after taking it.

Yeah, neurobalance is phenibut.

Originally Posted by pistonpump

hmmmm.....you need to try 20x or above then! harsh yes but not as hard to hold in as bud.

ehh, i dont think im even going to bother. I honestly don't have much trouble with weed as long as I smoke small amounts at a time. I smoke it very rarely though, like maybe once/twice per year.

Originally Posted by quigs

Yeah, neurobalance is phenibut.

Yeahright, I just got done reading your log on neurobalance and I didn't see you post any side effects - as I have read many with phenibut.

So, can you just confirm that the above quote is not exactly right and there are no such side effects? Or are there? I just can't wake up feeling like I have a hangover!

It is phenibut-like but as far as I can tell it does not have the negative sides of phen.

I like NeuroBalance a lot and feel the good effects of it for 2-3 days after a dose. Very relaxing supp that lets you function just fine. No hangovers from it that I have ever felt.

Originally Posted by bioman

It is phenibut-like but as far as I can tell it does not have the negative sides of phen.

I like NeuroBalance a lot and feel the good effects of it for 2-3 days after a dose. Very relaxing supp that lets you function just fine. No hangovers from it that I have ever felt.

exactly what I need to hear, thanks for the input....I think i'll give it a try. Too bad its so damn expensive!

no i have no phen hangover the next day with neuro in fact i wake up in a very happy and relaxed all though well rested mood. its great to help unwind at the end of the day and with higher doses its near impossible to stay awake.

Originally Posted by SelfKnowledge

Yeahright, I just got done reading your log on neurobalance and I didn't see you post any side effects - as I have read many with phenibut.

So, can you just confirm that the above quote is not exactly right and there are no such side effects? Or are there? I just can't wake up feeling like I have a hangover!

Your mileage may vary but I've never experienced any ill effects with neurobalance. You do need to be cautious with such products because they significantly alter brain chemistry to provide the effect you desire and IMHO that's something you don't want to get used to. It's a great product which I recommend without hesitation, just don't abuse it.

Wow is all I can say. This stuff is awesome. Everything seems to be beautiful, and colourful. This was one of the best experience I've ever had!

Originally Posted by jjohn

Wow is all I can say. This stuff is awesome. Everything seems to be beautiful, and colourful. This was one of the best experience I've ever had!

Is it very similar to being high?....or not as good?

My 8oz bag of kava came yesterday....I blended 3 tbsps with some milk and protein and chugged it quick (without extraction). I got that tingling effect in my mouth but it wasn't that bad (probably because I chugged it fast). It was already late at night and I was in a terrible mood because of a dinner I had with the woman. After taking it I immediately sat in bed...and I suddenly felt a definite head change. It wasn't that drastic, but it did seem to take the edge off and make me slightly drowsy. After I work out today I'm going to take 4-5tbsps and just try to pass out and forgot about everything...I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Originally Posted by SelfKnowledge

Is it very similar to being high?....or not as good?

My 8oz bag of kava came yesterday....I blended 3 tbsps with some milk and protein and chugged it quick (without extraction). I got that tingling effect in my mouth but it wasn't that bad (probably because I chugged it fast). It was already late at night and I was in a terrible mood because of a dinner I had with the woman. After taking it I immediately sat in bed...and I suddenly felt a definite head change. It wasn't that drastic, but it did seem to take the edge off and make me slightly drowsy. After I work out today I'm going to take 4-5tbsps and just try to pass out and forgot about everything...I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Well, I was never high sorry lol. But it did make me very happy, I was dancing and singing alone. lol

Originally Posted by jjohn

Well, I was never high sorry lol. But it did make me very happy, I was dancing and singing alone. lol

what stuff are you talking about,phenibut?


Also 'Self.....post how those 4-5 sccops of kava work for ya,I picked up some kava extract local cause it was under $10 and like 5 minutes crom my house,I'm sure the extract is crap though as I've read,but you never know til' you try something yourself,local shop had a bunch of phenibut stuff too,we're lucky to have some local small shops with ph's and all kinda good stuf where I'm at...However I don't use designers,but still nice to know they're they're if I needed them.

Originally Posted by getswole

what stuff are you talking about,phenibut?


Also 'Self.....post how those 4-5 sccops of kava work for ya,I picked up some kava extract local cause it was under $10 and like 5 minutes crom my house,I'm sure the extract is crap though as I've read,but you never know til' you try something yourself,local shop had a bunch of phenibut stuff too,we're lucky to have some local small shops with ph's and all kinda good stuf where I'm at...However I don't use designers,but still nice to know they're they're if I needed them.

Kava bud!

Originally Posted by getswole

what stuff are you talking about,phenibut?


Also 'Self.....post how those 4-5 sccops of kava work for ya,I picked up some kava extract local cause it was under $10 and like 5 minutes crom my house,I'm sure the extract is crap though as I've read,but you never know til' you try something yourself,local shop had a bunch of phenibut stuff too,we're lucky to have some local small shops with ph's and all kinda good stuf where I'm at...However I don't use designers,but still nice to know they're they're if I needed them.

I just got home from an intense arm workout...after i'm done downing this xtend...i'm gonna mix up that 4-5 tblsps.....

I'll post as soon as I'm done drinking the kava mix!

I just blended 4tblsps of Kava root extract in a blender with around 14oz of water....

I did not use any extraction method (pure laziness). I literally blended for about a minute....then chugged it as fast as I could. And yes...it tasted just like dirt....

Instantly my tongue started getting a tingly/numbing sensation...As i'm writing this I'm feeling the head rush....feels like i've been drinking a few. I'll post back with more details as the night goes on. Head feels heavy....

It's been an hour since I drank the 4tblsp kava mix. I definitely felt much more relaxed, and it took the edge off. But It did not make me feel drowsy/drunk.

And yes...tonight is a boring Friday night for me...which is why I had nothing better to do than log this kava experiment.

The woman is working....friends are drinking somewhere else...and I'm getting bored with just the double dose of kava. I think I may take another 2 tablespoons of it when I have my before bed shake...maybe even 3 or four because I'm so damn bored and just want to pass out. I'll let you all know how it goes. So far...it's some thing to take the slight edge off...but nothing too exciting for me-I guess I'm just looking for more of a head change.

take 7!!!!!! do it, do it, do it.

Originally Posted by poopypants

take 7!!!!!! do it, do it, do it.

At 9pm (about an hour and a half later) I took 4 MORE tblsps....this time I blended it with milk/protein. Tastes much better this time with the protein/milk combo...but the tongue tingling is still there.

Now....I definitely feel it.

The woman called me after she got off of work...started telling me about her ****ty day...and wow...her complaining really didn't seem to phase me. We recently haven't been on good terms-we got in a long fight last night...and let me tell you, this QUADruple dose (8tblsps total) really took the edge off having to listen to her tonight.
Through ought the half hour conversation...the kava kept kicking in more and more....and the less and less I cared, and the more and more I could tolerate her! I stayed totally relaxed...and now that I got off the phone with her...all I want to do is watch this Titus stand up on comedy central while I relax in my bed.

I'm VERY satisfied right now with the feelings from the kava....but I'm slightly disappointed it takes me 4-times the recommended dose to feel this good. But it's definitely what I needed right now!

tiredness or just immense relaxation?

Originally Posted by poopypants

tiredness or just immense relaxation?

Both....I was supposed to stay up and wait for my lady to call me back...I was totally passed out within 10 minutes of writing that last post. I slept through 2 missed calls (which I never do, my phone always wakes me up) AND i had the TV on to keep me up. This dosing of kava totally knocked me out. I was so relaxed, no anxiety, and I drowsy tired. My head felt very heavy like when you want to lie down after drinking too much. I will definetely do this again.

Good to know...you got the powdered root from Kona Kava farm right?

Sounds like this stuff might be good mixed in a frozen pina colada or some margharitta mix or somethin,I'm a have to order me some tonight

Heres a recipe for Kona Colada'

On a warm evening on the big island of Hawaii, kava grower Zachary Gibson proudly demonstrated his latest drink, a kava colada. "See, I take a whole ice tray of frozen pineapple-juice cubes, put them all in a blender with a full can of coconut milk, add one ounce of fluid kava extract and just a little honey and vanilla, blend it all up, and it makes six really delicious drinks."

Zachary whizzed the concoction in a blender until the mixture was smooth and creamy. The fat in the coconut would help absorb the kavalactones in the kava extract. The pineapple, coconut milk, honey, and vanilla would all blunt the bitterness of the kava. Six of us hoisted the kava coladas and drank together. The drink was impressively delicious, and we all felt the effects of the kava immediately. Zachary was excited. "See? You make a drink like this with kava, and people will really like it."

We enjoyed the kava coladas so much that we made another blender full about 30 minutes later and drank those too. Half an hour later, we had a third round. Meanwhile, we did what islanders in Oceania have done for thousands of years. We sat together as the warm, golden sun set into the vast Pacific Ocean, and we shared thoughtful conversation and good company.

Excerpted from “Psyche Delicacies” by Chris Kilham.


I'm sure you could use the powder root as well...coconut/pineapple...thats straight up Pina Colada'...sounds good

Originally Posted by getswole

Good to know...you got the powdered root from Kona Kava farm right?

Yup, just the plain root extract. It came pretty damn fast too! I seem to need a lot of it to get the desired effect though...I think i'm going to try to use the neurobalance for my next purchase instead of this.