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  1.  10-24-2006  08:42 PM
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    Info on Gabapentin


    The doc prescribed gabapentin for my father to use as a sleep aid. Specifically (i would assume) as an anti anxiety/mood relaxer because he has alot of trouble with waking up multiple times during the night.

    Now my question is how closely related is gabapentin to gaba, or gabatropin, or even just phenibut powder?

    Is that something he could take and see similar results that he does with gabapentin? Or is the gabapentin just much more effective, and hence the need for a prescription?

    Thanks for any info you guys might have.



  2.  10-26-2006  08:33 PM
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    Ive never used gabapentin as a sleep aid, but I can tell you that it is wonderful for pain control. I found it to be better than morphine after a while on both, to be honest.

    Jason

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    Interesting, thank you for the first hand info bro

  4.  10-31-2006  07:54 PM
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    Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon
    Interesting, thank you for the first hand info bro
    I honestly think it was down regulation of the opiod receptor. Most of my pain was due to nerve regeneration. Neurontin is what the docs give amputees to help combat phantom limb pain. I would definitely look into something else forst, but I do feel the gabapentin was important to me for pain control.

    Jason

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    Originally Posted by Jason Pegg
    I honestly think it was down regulation of the opiod receptor. Most of my pain was due to nerve regeneration. Neurontin is what the docs give amputees to help combat phantom limb pain. I would definitely look into something else forst, but I do feel the gabapentin was important to me for pain control.

    Jason
    Jason, are you an amputee by any chance?

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    Sorry for the thread hijack!

    Originally Posted by motiv8er
    Jason, are you an amputee by any chance?
    Im not an amputee, but Im disabled enough physically to be rated as 50% disabled by the military(If you know how hard that is). Ive got an arm that has less than 90 degrees range of motion, and 0 degrees of pronation or supination. It also has a major vagus and valgus defecit. You can see the vagus(IIRC) defecit in this photo. My arm in that pic is as close to locked out as I can get it, and yes, the forearm hangs like that. Bear with me, this pic is from March, and I was horrendously out of shape! izza: :hot: :donut: :burg:



    Jason

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    Um, ouch!! What happened man?

  8.  11-01-2006  12:35 PM
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    Some Taliban ******* caught me when I wasn't ready for it.

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    Sorry for your bad luck man. But thanks. What exactly, if I may ask did that... explosion, shrapnel, etc...

    Also, was any of your lower body hit?

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    Originally Posted by motiv8er
    Sorry for your bad luck man. But thanks. What exactly, if I may ask did that... explosion, shrapnel, etc...

    Also, was any of your lower body hit?
    Both the explosion and shrapnel did that. No real damage other than that, I was in an up armored humvee. A bit of shrapnel in the face, and a broken helmet, but other than that, nothing.

    Jason

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    Originally Posted by Jason Pegg
    Both the explosion and shrapnel did that. No real damage other than that, I was in an up armored humvee. A bit of shrapnel in the face, and a broken helmet, but other than that, nothing.

    Jason
    (Welcome to AM.com, heres your first hazing!!)

    Are you doing cardio now? You said your legs were FINE!!!!

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    Originally Posted by motiv8er
    (Welcome to AM.com, heres your first hazing!!)

    Are you doing cardio now? You said your legs were FINE!!!!
    Ive been lifting the weights! And cardio!"

    Jason

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    gabapentin is used to treat patients with trigeminal neuralgia (painful firing of nerves) and epilepsy. i dont know how close it is to regular GABA but both of them have a calming affect on the neurosecretory system.

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    Originally Posted by jomi822
    gabapentin is used to treat patients with trigeminal neuralgia (painful firing of nerves) and epilepsy. i dont know how close it is to regular GABA but both of them have a calming affect on the neurosecretory system.
    Thats why it worked so well for me!

    Jason

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    Originally Posted by MakaveliThaDon
    Now my question is how closely related is gabapentin to gaba, or gabatropin, or even just phenibut powder?
    According to Braverman in "the Edge Effect" gabapentin is "essentially made from GABA and Inositol".

    The doctor is considering off-label gabapentin for my wife's chronic TMJ pain if her new Cissus/Klonopin cocktail doesn't do the trick. (She's been seeing improvements with just the Cissus that I put her on, the Doctor thought Klonopin would be a nice compliment. )

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    Originally Posted by Jason Pegg
    Ive never used gabapentin as a sleep aid, but I can tell you that it is wonderful for pain control. I found it to be better than morphine after a while on both, to be honest.

    Jason
    Jason, if you don't mind.. do you remember how much you were taking, and how often? I assume with that nasty looking injury you'd be up towards the higer-end compared to what my wife would need... but I'm looking at some sources that say that for gabapentin to be effective some have to go as high as almost 5 grams per day.

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    phenibut works very well as a sleep aid. It is the only thing that gets me to sleep and allows me to stay asleep all night when I am on tren.

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    I was under the impression that gabapentin was related to GHB.

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    its kind of an interesting drug because it's used for so many things and has lots of off-label uses like treating depression, etc. I'm in the medical field and have mainly seen it used for nerve type pain like neuropathy, shingles, etc. and for seizures

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