Bodybuilding ForumYour AmSpace Profile
Register Forum AmSpaceStore Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Join Anabolicminds.com!! Register Today!
 
  AnabolicMinds.com Forum > Nutrition Forum > OTC Drug
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread




Old 04-23-2005, 05:51 PM   #1
Registered User
 
dickwootton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 25
Posts: 279
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 dickwootton is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15
Level up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
adderall weight loss

So i was diagnosed with ADHD and was perscribed adderall which is a mixture of 4 amphetamine salts at 40 mgs a day and people have started telling me that i am looking as though i have lost weight. I am trying to find out if adderall has any fat burning properties in and of itself. I know when i am on it i feel like i am on a high dose of ephedrine, or clen. Or if it is just a result of my appetite being almost non-existent...
dickwootton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 06:08 PM   #2
Banned
 
James007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 56
Posts: 79
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 James007 is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13
Level up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Um, yes. Potent appetite supression, much more than ephedrine, mostly from l-amphetamine content in Adderall. Lots of people prefer dextroamphetamine only, such as Dexedrine for treatement of ADD, but adderall is a salt mixture of 75% d, and 25% l isomers of phenylethylamine.
James007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 08:12 PM   #3
Registered User
 
jas123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 29
Stats: 6'0" 220 lbs
Posts: 3,255
Leave Comment
Reputation: 648 jas123 is a name known to alljas123 is a name known to all
Points: 5,266, Level: 30Points: 5,266, Level: 30Points: 5,266, Level: 30
Level up: 31%, 34 Points neededLevel up: 31%, 34 Points neededLevel up: 31%, 34 Points needed
Activity: 32%Activity: 32%Activity: 32%

View Profile
I'm not sure of the reason, but a friend of mine lost about 20 lb on adderall. He kept bumping up his dose and got really REALLY weird and disconnected from everything. Be careful.
jas123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 08:26 PM   #4
Registered User
 
lifted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 27
Posts: 1,292
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 lifted is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,518, Level: 20Points: 2,518, Level: 20Points: 2,518, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 32 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 32 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 32 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
I used to be on that stuff during high school. It made me feel great at first, but then my body just seemed to (like jas123's friend) shutdown in a way that is kinda hard to explain. I lost SERIOUS weight on that stuff. But I also abused it at times as well...used to snort it, etc...(DON"T DO THIS!!) I just used to be outa control as a teen.

It definatley made my grades improve too. For some people it doesn't effect them as bad as it did me, but I'm high strung as it is I guess.

The weight loss was due to constant anorexia due to appetite loss. BAck then (though I wasn't BB'ing) I would go the whole day only eating like 1000 calories...and that would even be hard to get down...



...defies the laws of cronzitivity

The only thing that comes outa my mouth is lies, all lies... don't believe anything I say, I'm a habitual bull****ter.
lifted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 09:32 PM   #5
Registered User
 
T-Bone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,747
Leave Comment
Reputation: 1494 T-Bone has much to be proud ofT-Bone has much to be proud ofT-Bone has much to be proud of
Points: 8,122, Level: 38Points: 8,122, Level: 38Points: 8,122, Level: 38
Level up: 39%, 128 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 128 Points neededLevel up: 39%, 128 Points needed
Activity: 76%Activity: 76%Activity: 76%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by lifted
The weight loss was due to constant anorexia due to appetite loss. BAck then (though I wasn't BB'ing) I would go the whole day only eating like 1000 calories...and that would even be hard to get down...
Lifted, check out the link below. The guy who posted is eating like an anorexic, as I mentioned in the thread. I just think people like that need to have their heads examined, because obviously there is a mental problem.

Part of Twin Peak's Rapid Fat Loss cycle/Phenogen/Lean Extreme
T-Bone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 09:39 PM   #6
Registered User
 
Fastflight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 33
Posts: 307
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Fastflight is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,403, Level: 20Points: 2,403, Level: 20Points: 2,403, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 147 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 147 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 147 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Eating is no problem,u just got to eat at the normal times the normal amount of food u usually eat.

since I have some chronic pain I sometimes realize my hunger&thirst just after the speed has made me numb.*lol*
Fastflight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2005, 02:41 PM   #7
Registered User
 
dickwootton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Age: 25
Posts: 279
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 dickwootton is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15
Level up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
But does any one know of the properties of adderall that may actually burn fat?
dickwootton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-24-2005, 06:21 PM   #8
Registered User
 
lifted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 27
Posts: 1,292
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 lifted is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,518, Level: 20Points: 2,518, Level: 20Points: 2,518, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 32 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 32 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 32 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Well, I think....key word here though is *think* that adderall is just pure amphetamine. I'm probably wrong though.

BUt check this out...

When I was on that stuff back in H.S., I'd always get it free w/ my health insurance. So, you all know what a prescribed pill bottle looks like from your pharmacy, right? Well, you know how at the bottom of the bottle where it says the drug's name? And then if you're getting the generic it will have the generic name there and then below it it will have something like: for > adderal, or like for > vicodin??

Well one time my pharmacy gave me the generic due to insurance and I swear to god it said this: Amphetamine for > adderall....so the generic name for adderall is just straight fvcking amphetamine!! That's pretty crazy... :shocked:



...defies the laws of cronzitivity

The only thing that comes outa my mouth is lies, all lies... don't believe anything I say, I'm a habitual bull****ter.
lifted is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2005, 02:16 PM   #9
Get big or die trying
 
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 26
Posts: 902
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Sticks is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15
Level up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
yeah i've got the generic right here in front of me. Amphetamine salts.
Sticks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2005, 02:17 PM   #10
Get big or die trying
 
Sticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 26
Posts: 902
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Sticks is on a distinguished road
Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15Points: 1,435, Level: 15
Level up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points neededLevel up: 16%, 115 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by dickwootton
But does any one know of the properties of adderall that may actually burn fat?
I would think so as it has a stimulatory effect, but i'm not positive.
Sticks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2005, 02:25 PM   #11
Pop-Lock champion of 84'
 
Pfunk47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Age: 29
Posts: 385
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Pfunk47 is on a distinguished road
Points: 939, Level: 11Points: 939, Level: 11Points: 939, Level: 11
Level up: 12%, 11 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 11 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 11 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
It's a diuretic big time - hence the immediate weight loss, no fat burning properties, big appetite supressant and big time libido loss over time. One big side effect is depression after consistent use, in males this seems to come from libido loss=depression. My buddy is on this crap and is in the hole big time from it and has gained about 60 lbs, he's taking about 40mg a day.
Pfunk47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-25-2005, 04:28 PM   #12
Banned
 
James007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 56
Posts: 79
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 James007 is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13
Level up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pfunk47
It's a diuretic big time - hence the immediate weight loss, no fat burning properties, big appetite supressant and big time libido loss over time. One big side effect is depression after consistent use, in males this seems to come from libido loss=depression. My buddy is on this crap and is in the hole big time from it and has gained about 60 lbs, he's taking about 40mg a day.
Fat burning properties of ephedrine which is basically none. Increase dopamine and norepinephrine which is good for long term weight loss, but also an increase in cortisol. Loss of libido? Where did you figure that out? Gaining 60lbs? Wow that's weird. It's a potent appetite supressant why would he gain weight?

You sound like one of those ESPN news casters talking about steroids.
James007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2005, 08:26 AM   #13
Pop-Lock champion of 84'
 
Pfunk47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Age: 29
Posts: 385
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Pfunk47 is on a distinguished road
Points: 939, Level: 11Points: 939, Level: 11Points: 939, Level: 11
Level up: 12%, 11 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 11 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 11 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Loss of libido comes from prolonged use, it's like people who blow coke for many years eventually your going to have a hard time getting it up but combined with the depression that may or may not come from the Adderall you have loss of libido. Like I said it is a huge appetite surpressant but eventually just like E&C the appetite supression wears off. I'am not saying he gained 60lbs becasue of the Aderrall but it didnt' burn any fat either nor prevented him to eat, he ate because he was unhappy but he's unhappy becasue he eats.

ESPN hasn't a clue about the magic juice, if anyone is stupid enough to take anything without any research and listen to TV, Darwinism prevails.
Pfunk47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2005, 09:32 AM   #14
Banned
 
James007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 56
Posts: 79
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 James007 is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13
Level up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
You're comparing chronic use of cocaine to low dose Amphetamine in treatment of ADD? Stop blowing the horn when there is no fire. These medications could and are very helpful for the treatment of Attention Deficit Disorder. People with ADD have a hard time succeeding in life and work without treatment of the disorder. They usually fall far behind, procrastinating and not caring.

Cocaine =/ Adderall. Adderall =/ Methamphetamine.
Adderall is a low dose of (d,l)-amphetamine usually in the range of 10-40mg daily. Long term useage might, and probably does have some neurotoxic effects - but just as any other drug - you have to be willing to accept the concenquences.

To say to yourself that steroids have no concenquences is as ignorant as comparing Adderall to Cocaine. When you delve into any drug that will alter your body or brain chemistry, you HAVE to be willing to accept the concenquences. This is the same for cocains, as it is with steroids. When you shoot yourself with 3ml of testosterone, over time, there will be adverse effects whether on your blood pressure, cardiovascular system, scalp, or liver. It is just a matter of time.

When you accept the fact that there are side effects, and you are content with their possible damage, you will no longer be lying to yourself and feel better about yourself. It's just about thoughful use of substances at resonable levels with resonable knowledge in what you are doing and what could possibly go wrong.
James007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2005, 10:12 AM   #15
Pop-Lock champion of 84'
 
Pfunk47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Age: 29
Posts: 385
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Pfunk47 is on a distinguished road
Points: 939, Level: 11Points: 939, Level: 11Points: 939, Level: 11
Level up: 12%, 11 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 11 Points neededLevel up: 12%, 11 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
I was making a comparison, 2 years of chronic coke use is not equal to 2 years of adderal correct daily dosage. I was stating eventually this could happen, ie.consequences. Everyone knows there is consequences with every choice we make, research gives you the choice to be content with the consequences or not. Stating a few facts, observations and comparisons is not condoning or promoting the use of anything. In the end adderall still has no fat burning effects. Appetite surpression is the closest thing and anyone who doesn't eat to lose weight already isnt' that intelligent. Success in life comes from hard work, dedication and education, we need more hugs not drugs but I have not been diagnosed ADHD so I have no idea what life is like for the wandering mind.
Pfunk47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-26-2005, 04:59 PM   #16
Banned
 
James007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 56
Posts: 79
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 James007 is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13
Level up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pfunk47
Appetite surpression is the closest thing and anyone who doesn't eat to lose weight already isnt' that intelligent.
So, how do you propose we lose weight? With fat burning drugs such as Clenbuterol?

Loosing weight is simple: eat less, exercise more.

Not really sure what to make of the rest of your post. I have to attend my Organic Chemistry lecture. Maybe you agree with my post, I don't know. Good luck.
James007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2005, 09:17 PM   #17
Registered User
 
Fastflight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 33
Posts: 307
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Fastflight is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,403, Level: 20Points: 2,403, Level: 20Points: 2,403, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 147 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 147 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 147 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Just exercise more.
Fastflight is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2005, 09:28 PM   #18
Banned
 
James007's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 56
Posts: 79
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 James007 is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13Points: 2,436, Level: 13
Level up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points neededLevel up: 14%, 14 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%Activity: 0%

View Profile
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fastflight
Just exercise more.
So you don't change your caloric intake while dieting vs bulking? Don't know man, most people don't have the time to spend 2 hours a day doing cardio and also weight resistance training to retain muscle.

You're pretty dumb if you just exercise more to lose weight.

Eat less, exercise more.
James007 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-27-2005, 09:45 PM   #19
Registered User
 
Fastflight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Age: 33
Posts: 307
Leave Comment
Reputation: 10 Fastflight is on a distinguished road
Points: 2,403, Level: 20Points: 2,403, Level: 20Points: 2,403, Level: 20
Level up: 21%, 147 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 147 Points neededLevel up: 21%, 147 Points needed
Activity: 0%Activity: 0%