adderall weight loss

[opfor101]

Haha, not Adderall and Dex, pretty clean at the proper dose. Phentermine is dirty, but a better appetite suppressant IMO.

hmm do you think some benadryl or ketotifen at night time will prevent the appetite suppression?

[AM07]

Rick James has told me that cocaine is a helluva drug.

You all might want to try that, coming from the pimp himself.

[Force of Green]

The use of amphetamines (especially methamphetamine) can often improve someones capacity to get work done, socialize, stay on task, and handle stress. Often people are tricked into thinking that, "hey, maybe this drug is the missing link to my achievements," and begin to think that he/she is a better person while on these drugs. Some of them can change the chemistry of the brain to make one dependant upon it's administration (chemical dependency) let alone the psychological aspect of not liking who they are without the drug.

I am not trying to sound like a health teacher or D.A.R.E. instructor, but IMO it's not worth the risks.

[DR.D]

hmm do you think some benadryl or ketotifen at night time will prevent the appetite suppression?

I always found that I could still eat if I had to. The first few bites were hard, but after that you prime yourself and it's not so bad.

I don't think an anti-histamine would necessarily encourage appetite and I've never personally noticed it except sometimes a little with keto, but I have read studies were high dose use of l-Histadine (16 g/day) did suppress food intake, so theoretically it could.

[DR.D]

The use of amphetamines (especially methamphetamine) can often improve someones capacity to get work done, socialize, stay on task, and handle stress. Often people are tricked into thinking that, "hey, maybe this drug is the missing link to my achievements," and begin to think that he/she is a better person while on these drugs. Some of them can change the chemistry of the brain to make one dependant upon it's administration (chemical dependency) let alone the psychological aspect of not liking who they are without the drug.

I am not trying to sound like a health teacher or D.A.R.E. instructor, but IMO it's not worth the risks.

Very good point FOG! Something to consider and talk with your doc about if it gets out of control.

[quigs]

Haha, not Adderall and Dex, pretty clean at the proper dose. Phentermine is dirty, but a better appetite suppressant IMO.

You ever try Sibutramine? I know its one of the constituents of phentermine, but I'm curious as to its cognitive effects and how it would compare to say...adderall and ephedrine?

Also interested to hear if you could compare these same effects between phentermine and sibutramine.

This isn't limited to D, would like to hear anyone's input if you've got some expereince with these.

[melis]

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So i was diagnosed with ADHD and was perscribed adderall which is a mixture of 4 amphetamine salts at 40 mgs a day and people have started telling me that i am looking as though i have lost weight. I am trying to find out if adderall has any fat burning properties in and of itself. I know when i am on it i feel like i am on a high dose of ephedrine, or clen. Or if it is just a result of my appetite being almost non-existent...

I WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU I HAVE DOND ALOT OF RESEARCJ ON ADDERALL XR ,RIGHT DOWN TO SNORTING I.... I KNOW YOU HAVE HEARD OF METH... PEOPLE CRACKED OUT ON METH.. WELL ADDERLL HAS ALL THE INGREDIENGTS EXCEPT ONE...BUT THAT ONE DEOS NOT MAKE A DIFFERNCE... IT WILL SPEED UP YOUR METABLOISM AND WILL MAKE YOU LOOSE WEIGHT... ALONG WITH THE APPEPTIE SUPPRESSION..COKE IS THE RICH MANS METH BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO MORE OF IT.. METH JUST DO A LITTLE AND YOU GO ALONG WAYS... SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUISTION.. YES ADDERLL NOT ONLY SUPPRESSES YOUR HUNGER BUT IT ALSO SPEEDS UP METABLOSIM...I AM TYPING THIS IN DARK.. SO EXCUSE ME FOR MISPELLD WORDS... I HAVE BEEN ON ADDERALL FOR ABOUT 2 MONTHS NOW.... I AM NOT ON 30 MG XR AND I HAVE LOT 36 POUNDS...SO WHOEVER SAYS IT DOES NOT SPEED UP YOUR METBOLISM... IS WRONG.. THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TROUBLE GOING TO SLEEP AT NIGHT BECAUSE YOUR METABLOLISM IS STILL GOING.. THAT IS WHY THEY SAY DONT WORK OUT TO LATE BECAUSE YOUR METABOLISM IS STILL GOING... FOR HOURS AFTER YOU FINISH WORKING OUTL.. I CHECKED WITH DRS AND LOOKED UP AND TALKED TO LAB TECHS.. I KNOW I AM RIGHT..
THANKS
MEL

[melis]

I Would Like To Tell You I Have Dond Alot Of Researcj On Adderall Xr ,right Down To Snorting I.... I Know You Have Heard Of Meth... People Cracked Out On Meth.. Well Adderll Has All The Ingrediengts Except One...but That One Deos Not Make A Differnce... It Will Speed Up Your Metabloism And Will Make You Loose Weight... Along With The Appeptie Suppression..coke Is The Rich Mans Meth Because You Have To Do More Of It.. Meth Just Do A Little And You Go Along Ways... So To Answer Your Quistion.. Yes Adderll Not Only Suppresses Your Hunger But It Also Speeds Up Metablosim...i Am Typing This In Dark.. So Excuse Me For Mispelld Words... I Have Been On Adderall For About 2 Months Now.... I Am Not On 30 Mg Xr And I Have Lot 36 Pounds...so Whoever Says It Does Not Speed Up Your Metbolism... Is Wrong.. That Is Why You Have Trouble Going To Sleep At Night Because Your Metablolism Is Still Going.. That Is Why They Say Dont Work Out To Late Because Your Metabolism Is Still Going... For Hours After You Finish Working Outl.. I Checked With Drs And Looked Up And Talked To Lab Techs.. I Know I Am Right..
Thanks
Mel

[Force of Green]

I Would Like To Tell You I Have Dond Alot Of Researcj On Adderall Xr ,right Down To Snorting I.... I Know You Have Heard Of Meth... People Cracked Out On Meth.. Well Adderll Has All The Ingrediengts Except One...but That One Deos Not Make A Differnce... It Will Speed Up Your Metabloism And Will Make You Loose Weight... Along With The Appeptie Suppression..coke Is The Rich Mans Meth Because You Have To Do More Of It.. Meth Just Do A Little And You Go Along Ways... So To Answer Your Quistion.. Yes Adderll Not Only Suppresses Your Hunger But It Also Speeds Up Metablosim...i Am Typing This In Dark.. So Excuse Me For Mispelld Words... I Have Been On Adderall For About 2 Months Now.... I Am Not On 30 Mg Xr And I Have Lot 36 Pounds...so Whoever Says It Does Not Speed Up Your Metbolism... Is Wrong.. That Is Why You Have Trouble Going To Sleep At Night Because Your Metablolism Is Still Going.. That Is Why They Say Dont Work Out To Late Because Your Metabolism Is Still Going... For Hours After You Finish Working Outl.. I Checked With Drs And Looked Up And Talked To Lab Techs.. I Know I Am Right..
Thanks
Mel

Mel, judging from your post, maybe we should check into rehab together?

Amphetamines are no joke. And I am not sure that raising your pulse/blood pressure is significantly concurrent with metabolism.

[DR.D]

You ever try Sibutramine? I know its one of the constituents of phentermine, but I'm curious as to its cognitive effects and how it would compare to say...adderall and ephedrine?

Also interested to hear if you could compare these same effects between phentermine and sibutramine.

This isn't limited to D, would like to hear anyone's input if you've got some expereince with these.

Sibutramine is more of an SNRI. Amphetamine acts more to enhance release of NE, plus it's a mild MAOI too. Amph is superior for depressive states IMO, but Sib can still serve it's purpose for weight loss. The molecule looks nasty though and I'd bet it induces it's own metabolism with that electronegative para Cl on the ring. I have never used it, but I'd say it's probably kinda dirty, like Wellbutrin is with that N-butyl sub or any tertiary amine would be, not to mention the additional serotonergic component.

As for Ephedrine, too much beta activity and not enough CNS effect to make a great anti-depressant, but good for appetite suppression and metabolic elevation that promotes weight loss.

Phentermine is very well suited for weight loss, but the crash and burn effect is one of the worst in this whole category of PEA derived adrenergics.

[quigs]

Sibutramine is more of an SNRI. Amphetamine acts more to enhance release of NE, plus it's a mild MAOI too. Amph is superior for depressive states IMO, but Sib can still serve it's purpose for weight loss. The molecule looks nasty though and I'd bet it induces it's own metabolism with that electronegative para Cl on the ring. I have never used it, but I'd say it's probably kinda dirty, like Wellbutrin is with that N-butyl sub or any tertiary amine would be, not to mention the additional serotonergic component.

As for Ephedrine, too much beta activity and not enough CNS effect to make a great anti-depressant, but good for appetite suppression and metabolic elevation that promotes weight loss.

Phentermine is very well suited for weight loss, but the crash and burn effect is one of the worst in this whole category of PEA derived adrenergics.

Interesting. I've tried wellbutrin in the past and wasn't all that impressed. I'm mainly looking for something to help in the cognitive dept moreso than fatloss/appetite supression.

So far, the best compound that I've used for studying had to be focalin (Dexmethylphenidate), the d-isomer of ritalin. A close second would be adderall. I've never had the opportunity to give ritalin a shot however.

A very good legal option that I've experimented with is a combination of Geranamine + pseudoephedrine. I've found this to be the closest legal alternative to adderall that I've found. Unfortunately, the geranamine crash has got to be the worst out of anything that I've tried.

[jamesatba]

be carefull with adderall,just because it's not as strong as,let's say METH!!!!!!!!,doesn't mean it not a very strong simulant.

[Force of Green]

Yeah, it's a poor choice for weightloss.

[OpKang101]

i actually use this stuff, and adderall in my opinion
is better kept for studying than anything else.

I have had NO appetite supression from this.

Adderall is really overhyped in my opinion, isnt nearly as great as people say.

[Dr Liftalot]

That guy's on a soapbox. Adderal is not that bad. They've been giving amphetamines to little 6 year old kids for over half a century now. I personally took 60-90mg/d Adderal for about 11 straight years. I do have one regret, I should have never stopped! It works wonders on depression and makes you highly productive too. If anything, it greatly enhanced my cognitive functions.

Just curious how does that make sense to say he's on a soapbox. Not saying your 100% wrong but please include a pubmed studies showing me how it doesn't cause damage overtime. I know a few friends who haven't been as lucky as you.

[DR.D]

Just curious how does that make sense to say he's on a soapbox. Not saying your 100% wrong but please include a pubmed studies showing me how it doesn't cause damage overtime. I know a few friends who haven't been as lucky as you.

The studies abound I'm sure, but I can only speak with confidence from personal experience. My estimation of another's motives are subjective and speculative in this case.

All I know is that my doctor monitored me for the entire length of my treatments, and there was never any perceivable toxicity or alarming blood work results with this product. I have been off of Adderall for about 5 years now with no signs of long-standing damage or detriment. Perhaps your friends did not apply it properly, or used it for off-label purposes without a skilled doctor to supervise them? If used responsibly by a person who actually needs it to treat a medical condition, it can obviously be used safely and do a lot of good for the patient, or the FDA would not risk the liability of it's reintroduction. I don't think we would have seen the Ritalin era and resurgence of prescribed amphetamines (Adderall) had any long-term sequela been noted from the early decades of it clinical use.

[Nightwanderer]

Loss of libido? Where did you figure that out? Gaining 60lbs? Wow that's weird. It's a potent appetite supressant why would he gain weight?

You sound like one of those ESPN news casters talking about steroids.

Loss of libido is common in males, says my dr., which is why I won't take it despite a recommendation. The tweeker effects are also only present in people who don't need it medicinally, in people who would actually benefit from it, the effects people might abuse the drug for don't occur. Also another reason for me not to take it.
If you need it, you'll end up with a limp noodle, an increasingly aloof personality, and better mental focus. The trade off isn't worth it imo.

[SrT4u2Nv]

Interesting. I've tried wellbutrin in the past and wasn't all that impressed. I'm mainly looking for something to help in the cognitive dept moreso than fatloss/appetite supression.

So far, the best compound that I've used for studying had to be focalin (Dexmethylphenidate), the d-isomer of ritalin. A close second would be adderall. I've never had the opportunity to give ritalin a shot however.

A very good legal option that I've experimented with is a combination of Geranamine + pseudoephedrine. I've found this to be the closest legal alternative to adderall that I've found. Unfortunately, the geranamine crash has got to be the worst out of anything that I've tried.

Im on a 10mg dose of Focalin and it isnt doing anything for my ADD/AHAD or depression... nothing... im going to speak with my doc to bump up to 20mg or switch me to something else. Anyone have any ideas besides Addheral

[quigs]

Yeah, it's a poor choice for weightloss.

I think its better than many OTC options...ephedra, yohimbine, etc. Adderall doesn't cause the peripheral side effects that these compounds do.

[quigs]

i actually use this stuff, and adderall in my opinion
is better kept for studying than anything else.

I have had NO appetite supression from this.

Adderall is really overhyped in my opinion, isnt nearly as great as people say.

Adderall on its own doesnt do much for me. Mix it with 200mg of caffeine though and its a whole different story. Add in some nicotine gum and you've got yourself one hell of a combo.