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Is there anything better thats legal, for having a sense of well being?
Is there anything better thats legal, for having a sense of well being?
"sense of well being" can have different definitions. What is it exactly that you are going for?
Phenibut, for me, doesn't give a "buzz" but rather just removes any anxiety. I only take it when I feel anxious (or panicky). Within 90 minutes, the uneasy feeling goes away. That is all that I "feel" with it. I only dose it at 500mg - 1 gram and do not take it that often.
Others, however, are looking for a "buzz". They stack it with other ancillaries (MJ, E, alcohol, etc..). The effects vary but it seems that at first, their buzz is enhanced. Then they build an immunity and the effects subside. The danger of this is the let down if you take large amounts of Phenibut for any length of time and then stop. It seems that people fall into a "funk" or depression after extended use is halted.
That is exactly what happens to me! I don't like to sleep in, but the next day this stuff makes me feel mentally fatigued. This stuff is not to be played around with, so I agree with Elizzard, be careful and start low.I took too much the first time and had a great "buzz" effect, but the next day was horrible. Normally I wake up around 9-10 am, but this stuff had me sleeping until 3:00 in the afternoon. Not only did I sleep really late, but I totally could have slept for the rest of the day. Once I finally made it out of bed I was dizzzy and felt as thought I was going to throw up. Be very careful and start your dosages low.
You forgot to mention how you got drunk off of 1 shot.I took too much the first time and had a great "buzz" effect, but the next day was horrible. Normally I wake up around 9-10 am, but this stuff had me sleeping until 3:00 in the afternoon. Not only did I sleep really late, but I totally could have slept for the rest of the day. Once I finally made it out of bed I was dizzzy and felt as thought I was going to throw up. Be very careful and start your dosages low.
Kratom is great...but I wouldn't compare it to phenibut in effects. The kratom buzz is much more pronounced than that of pheni, but much shorter acting. It's great for pain reduction/relaxation due to its effects as an opioid receptor agonist.Can anyone ex[and on the Kratom? I have quite a bit but have not yet tried it.
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LOL, your welcome to join the LONG list of us on here that have irriated our wives by stealing a cupboard or two...:lol:Thanks. I did a little research and I may have to add this to the already overflowing cabinet of supplements that is beginning to irritate my wife. :thumbsup:
maybe, but phenibut kicks ass!
maybe, but phenibut kicks ass!
as of now....yes...lets keep it to responsible use to not give the gov anymore reason to 'protect us from ourselves'Is Kratom legal?
I's a little bitter/sour but not too bad.How is the taste of phenibut in bulk? Is it tolerable or does it make one gag?
Picamilon but it varies.Is there anything better thats legal, for having a sense of well being?
anymore info/feedback on it?....Picamilon but it varies.
Do you find that you quickly build a tolerance though?phenibut is pretty good stuff. i can do about 3g and feel fine the next day.
Do you find that you get any kind of buzz from it? I'm not interested in the sleep aspects of it - I'm looking for a buzz (kind of an alcohol replacement I guess). Renewtrient was absolutely amazing for me and I've been trying to replicate its effects ever since it was banned. I'm only interested in legal alternatives too.I dont seem to have tolerance issues with Phenibut, however I find its most useful is lower dosages. For sleep, I combine 400mg Phenibut with 500mg GABA, 3mg melatonin and Im down for the count. For a mood booster during the workday, 200mg Phenibut seems to be very effective.
That study seems awfully inconclusive...although some of the science behind it makes sense. Many things can lead to reduced sperm quality and on a study with such a small group I'd think it would be hard to pinpoint melatonin as being the sole culprit there.As for a person that did GABA for two years strait.. Dont do Gaba or Phenibut before bedtime, it inhibits Melatonin.
Melatonin alters sperm quality - Mind and Muscle Forums
I've found that small doses of melatonin (.25 mg) to be most effective personally. Enough to tip the balance but not so much that I'm drugging myself into sleep.That study seems awfully inconclusive...although some of the science behind it makes sense. Many things can lead to reduced sperm quality and on a study with such a small group I'd think it would be hard to pinpoint melatonin as being the sole culprit there.
The recommendation that <1mg doses are ideal is interesting though. Perhaps *too much* melatonin is the problem...
BV
You do your research yeahright or you have experience... yes a very low dose is ok but anything higher like 3 mgs research say it isnt healthy. I beleive it's 200 mcg's.I've found that small doses of melatonin (.25 mg) to be most effective personally. Enough to tip the balance but not so much that I'm drugging myself into sleep.
That study seems awfully inconclusive...although some of the science behind it makes sense. Many things can lead to reduced sperm quality and on a study with such a small group I'd think it would be hard to pinpoint melatonin as being the sole culprit there.
The recommendation that <1mg doses are ideal is interesting though. Perhaps *too much* melatonin is the problem...
BV
Why not Taurine? I ask because I just bought a kilo of it because of its cheapness. Is Taurine related to GABA?Thats what the research came up with 200 mcg's.
Gaba , phenibut and taurine inhibit Mel. so its best not to take them before bed. Its in the thread posted.
Yes, but so does flipping on the bathroom light when you wake up in the middle of the night to go take a leak...how much though Im not sure.Thats what the research came up with 200 mcg's.
Gaba , phenibut and taurine inhibit Mel. so its best not to take them before bed. Its in the thread posted.
Now that crap is funny, I thought it was just me.:drunk:LOL, your welcome to join the LONG list of us on here that have irriated our wives by stealing a cupboard or two...:lol:
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