Phenibut, is there better?
01-06-2008 01:50 PM
alphagpc prevents phenibut headachs..hmmm anyone else have expirience with this?
Originally Posted by goslamacamel
01-06-2008 02:11 PM
lol, I use aGPC like most use Tylenol. Ever since I got some enormous cluster headaches from using Piracetam without reading up about it enough to know I NEEDED a choline source. I have a hunch that many normal headaches stem from some kind of choline depletion, because if my GF gets a headache I'll cap her a little of my aGPC and usually it goes away within 30 mins.
Originally Posted by smeton_yea
01-06-2008 02:14 PM
Yes I take choline with my Alcar and Piracetam. So take choline when you have a heache. Nice little info
03-29-2008 06:26 PM
I bet that's not all that was yanked...
Originally Posted by yeahright
10-28-2008 01:25 PM
Originally Posted by yeahright
I wouldnt be surprised either if there was something else in it. I bought some somatomax on the recommendations of someone on another board. Tried it and it worked well. I slept like a baby and can be really groggy the next morning if you dont sleep atleast 10 hours or so. Also I felt really pumped the next day after a workout compared to without the stuff.
I didnt know about high tech's shady history until I was reading about it after I had tried out somatomax. I bought some phenibute after I read it was the largest ingredient on the somatomax label and it was a lot cheaper than the somatomax. I had used 250-500mg doses of the phenibute for sleep or anxiety and it works real well for that. Didnt notice any "pump" effect the next day after a work out. Also doesnt knock me out as much as somatomax.
I wouldnt be surprised at all if there was something else added in it. It almost seems to work too well to just be what is on the label.
05-01-2009 08:41 AM
so I tried Phenibut (here name is ноофен but it is the same stuff) for the first time last night... I took 500mg at about 1/2 hr intervals... 3.5g over about 2.5 hours. And all I felt from it was a little dulling of any anxiety... about what 1/2 a drink would do. I do have a strange hangover today where I still feel a little drunk, but it could be from the drinking.
I drank last night more than I had drunk in quite some time. Somehow I continued to drink until 16 drinks (apple juice and jack daniels) [normally I stop around 9 to 12 drinks) and one minute I am fine then I'm completely wasted and can't walk anything close to straight. But really it just felt like effects of one too many drinks.
I started to drink about 4 hours into the phenibut.
So is it normal for some people on first time 3.5g to feel nothing? I tried picamillon about a week ago a couple of times and standard dosages there seemed to work properly for me. (first time on picamilon I was mildly euphoric and in a great mood - felt the same as the elusive mixture of supplements I took a couple times before... elusive because I could only replicate this mild euphoria + great mood about 1 in 3 times - I was taking a lot of GABA - half sublingually + l-theanine + 5 HTP + other stuff like taurine and magnesium/potassium for good measure... but I stopped doing that a long time ago because it wasn't consistent)
btw. I am a bit on the heavy side... 6'3, 245 lbs... about 20 to 25 lbs overweight I'm guessing. picamillon didn't seem to be affected much by body weight (I was taking 100 to 150mg)... but could it be that phenibut is? I was hoping phenibut would be great for me but if 3.5 grams doesn't do anything for me, I'm scared (money wise - it is about $20 for 20 250mg tablets) how much would be required for me to take...
any insights would be appreciated, thanks.
05-01-2009 11:57 AM
Take your entire dose on an EMPTY stomach. Wait a good 90 minutes after eating to take the phenibut, then wait a good 30 minutes after taking the phenibut before you eat again. The effects can take a couple hours to kick in, but should be noticeable in less than an hour. And the hang over was from the phenibut
Originally Posted by ycomp
05-01-2009 12:03 PM
thanks... i started to take it maybe 1 hour or so after eating dinner. Didn't eat anything else that night.
So I should take it all at once I guess. What dose do you recommend I should take? And if I don't notice anything after a period of time, how much more should I take?
05-18-2009 06:25 PM
Originally Posted by BigVrunga
Try valerian root, too.
06-18-2009 04:17 PM
2.5g??? if you've been taking it for years then okay -- big tolerance.
If not then consider birth place ... was it planet earth?
Thats phenibut to knock out a horse.
06-18-2009 04:19 PM
Good answer. Rhodiola is an adaptogen - its about homeostasis not really a sense of calm and well being.
Originally Posted by Jmaths
GABBA (unmodified phenibut) has a marginal effect.
06-24-2009 10:33 PM
I think tolerances vary from person to person. I have taken up to 8 grams with positive euphoric effects (a little more mild than an alcohol buzz) and no hangover.
Originally Posted by matthias7
Don't plan on having sex after taking phenibut. Wet noodle.
06-26-2009 05:58 AM
anyone know if cold tea (I mean if i made tea and let it sit until it was cold) works just as well as hot tea? to "rechage" phenibut?
06-26-2009 10:29 PM
GHB is better. pheni is stout too
07-30-2009 08:03 PM
I use phenibut 4-5 days a week 4 grams a day i try to go mon tues. on wed. off and thurs. fri on and take sat and sun off to rebuild my brain but the two days off or weds. is the worst days ever so tired. One thing i get when im not on them is anxiety like crazy but when im on pheni i get like a vicodin buzz, it helps a lot if i drink pheni with a good energy drink
08-10-2009 05:29 PM
Phenibut does kick ass i have been using the Phenibut Primaforce powder all summer just started the capsules what do you think is better? It was my first day for the capsules i think i like the powder better besides the taste
08-10-2009 09:52 PM
You dose 4gr at once?
Originally Posted by SpeedFreak21
I recently started adding 2gr of pheni with my SX. I can't say I notice much from it, but I was a little hesitant to dose higher. Still experimenting with this stuff.
08-12-2009 04:28 PM
I've tried different dosing methods and the one the only way I really feel the effects is by splitting it into two doses. If I want to take 4 grams I'll do 2 grams first, then wait 2-3 hours and take another 2 grams. I start to really feel it an hour or 2 after the second dose.
08-12-2009 09:47 PM
I used Phenibut for a few days at 2 grams and it was great the first two days but then tolerance developed. Do you know whether there is a limit to tolerance, meaning beyond a certain point the effects will remain and not have tolerance (even if that means having to take many grams)?
Originally Posted by s.norman
04-19-2010 02:55 PM
Standardized Kava capsules (for example, NOW brand has 30% kavalactone caps) are great for anti-anxiety/euphoria if you take enough (I actually take about 20 to get "high", like not actually high but pretty nice euphoria.) I didn't really like phenibut because of the rebound effects. Well good luck on your search
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