Phenibut, is there better?

[phrost]

IBE Neurobalance.

Do you know if they offer samples?

[yeahright]

Do you know if they offer samples?

No. It's a liquid. It's well worth a try IMHO.
Ibe Neurobalance Log

[Synicus]

Well i think im done w/ the phenibut for a while. Been doin it for 6-8 months once wk at least. The next day hangovers are just hell now, totally trashes me next day, ALL DAY, worse than alcohol. Course I been mixin it w/ alcohol maybe some valium/xanax a little nite before but i know its the phenibut, heavy doses 6-8g. I'm off for a whilt......... Bet some you guys get the bad phenibut hangovers too...

[cp3soja]

ahhhhhhh boys what yall need to try is 2 scoops os somitomax by high teck its 1000 times beter than any thing listed on this bored

[yeahright]

ahhhhhhh boys what yall need to try is 2 scoops os somitomax by high teck its 1000 times beter than any thing listed on this bored

Hmmmm, actually looks interesting but it's not that different from what people have been talking about (ingredients below). The only thing that gives me pause is the manufacturer. Hi-Tech has had problems with their products being "contaminated." Their erection supplement was yanked from the shelves when it tested to actually contain viagra and there were other similar incidents which I can't recall the details of. It wouldn't surprise me if their somitimax was "contaminated" with something pharmaceutical.
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What's In It?

Serving Size: 1 Heaping Scoop (14g)
Servings Per Container: 20

Amount Per Serving:

Proprietary Blend: 14g
4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid
Gamma Amino Butyric Acid
Macuna Pruriens Extract
(standardized to 20% L-Dopa)
L-Arginine HCL
L-Tyrosine
L-Phenylaline Vitamin B-6 10mg 500%
(as Pyridoxine HCL)

Other Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, Malic Acid, Citric Acid, Natural and Artifical Flavors and Colors, Aspartame, Acesulfame Potassium.

[John Smeton]

Hmmmm, actually looks interesting but it's not that different from what people have been talking about (ingredients below). The only thing that gives me pause is the manufacturer. Hi-Tech has had problems with their products being "contaminated." Their erection supplement was yanked from the shelves when it tested to actually contain viagra and there were other similar incidents which I can't recall the details of. It wouldn't surprise me if their somitimax was "contaminated" with something pharmaceutical.
_______________________


What's In It?

Serving Size: 1 Heaping Scoop (14g)
Servings Per Container: 20

Amount Per Serving:

Proprietary Blend: 14g
4-amino-3-Phenylbutric Acid
Gamma Amino Butyric Acid
Macuna Pruriens Extract
(standardized to 20% L-Dopa)
L-Arginine HCL
L-Tyrosine
L-Phenylaline Vitamin B-6 10mg 500%
(as Pyridoxine HCL)

Other Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, Malic Acid, Citric Acid, Natural and Artifical Flavors and Colors, Aspartame, Acesulfame Potassium.

Glad you said something Yeah Right.

[TripDog]

of course after reading this thread i had to go take some phinibut...dam peer pressure..

[warbird01]

I dont seem to feel sh1t off 1-2 g but have to dose 4-5g and goddamn, the "hangover" feeling the next day is wierd as hell. Like im sleepwalking all day!

[s.norman]

i got very addicted to phenibut after 4 years of continuous use. tolerance ends when u reach 10g per day and i used b/t 10-15g per night. this is a drug not a supp and needs more respect than i gave it. i needed a detox and rehab to get off it...coincidentally my dr. was from russia and she said u can die of a fatal overdose w/ it. she was familiar w/ it. klonopin was used to ween me off it.

[TripDog]

i got very addicted to phenibut after 4 years of continuous use. tolerance ends when u reach 10g per day and i used b/t 10-15g per night. this is a drug not a supp and needs more respect than i gave it. i needed a detox and rehab to get off it...coincidentally my dr. was from russia and she said u can die of a fatal overdose w/ it. she was familiar w/ it. klonopin was used to ween me off it.

wow........thats a pricey habbit!!

[MentalTwitch]

My favorite set ups....

Sleep aid-low level = Mealotinin 1.5g OR Neurobalance.
Sleep aid -medium level = Both of above.
Sleep that makes me go into coma = GABA @ 3-4g Mel. @ 1.5g Neurobalance 2tsp(rec dose)

Good feel before work = Neurobalance
Good feeling before "gettin physical with lady friend" = GABA
Good feeling before test = Neurobalance

I currently have on order Phenibut, more GABA(500g), Theanine by NOW.

Just to be clear, i wouldnt recomend using these things with alcohol. All of these and alcohol effect brain chemicals/activation proccess, so i would watch it.

I used GABA and 5HTP for a while everynight for a month or so with Mel sometimes, and when i started to discontinue use i noticed depression hit me a bit more.
Becareful with doses and how much you take for how long.
Take care everyone.

[dadream]

For me the effects of phenibut are not even worth taking it. I need to take atleast 1.5-2g to illicit any type of a "buzz" and the next day i am blessed with a nice hangover. I might as well have the 3 or 4 beers which is about the equivalent buzz i get and not be hungover as s.hit. Does anyone know why phenibut even gives a hangover?

[motiv8er]

This is the first thread I have read in 6 months that was actually full of useful info, Thanks guys--

[warbird01]

So i took 3g phenibut last night and got hammered. WOke up at 9 and yacked a lot. Then woek up at 2 I havnt sleept in that much for like, i cant even remember!! I thought i was gonna have the "phenibut hangover" but its gone away, mostly. thank god!

[BigVrunga]

Honestly guys I think Phenibut is best used with much lower doses, at least for me.

400mg is perfect for a mild feeling of relaxation, or a sleep aid with GABA , 5HTP, and melatonin.

1g is a definite buzz...I cant even imagine taking more than 2g of Phenibut at once!!

Another combo to try for a great mood lift is Caffiene, Phenylthalamine (PEA), and a MAO-B inhibitor like Hordenine. 400mg of Rhodiola on top of that for an extra special glow

BV

[motiv8er]

So last night I took 1.4 g's of phenibut and went out ont he city with some friends. I must have drank a 12 pack over 6 hours. I won a dance contest with the HOTTEST girls at the club. I had no inhibitions but was pretty cognitive.

This morning, I couldnt move. My dogs hated me. In fact, I couldnt figure out why I was so slow, until i saw this thread!

[s.norman]

For me the effects of phenibut are not even worth taking it. I need to take atleast 1.5-2g to illicit any type of a "buzz" and the next day i am blessed with a nice hangover. I might as well have the 3 or 4 beers which is about the equivalent buzz i get and not be hungover as s.hit. Does anyone know why phenibut even gives a hangover?

phenibut ellicits very potent anti-anxiety effects but tolerance does build up. i used around 10g ed and i was relaxed-also very addicted unfortunately!

[s.norman]

my psychiatrist at rehab studied medicine in RUSSIA and she said PHENIBUT is a benzodiazapine and is very addicting-can also be lethal at the right dose.
its nothing to play w/ thats all i urge peeps here.

[John Smeton]

Im thinking of replacing it with L-Theanine. I have gone though one bottle(Fifty grams ) in two years.

[BigVrunga]

my psychiatrist at rehab studied medicine in RUSSIA and she said PHENIBUT is a benzodiazapine and is very addicting-can also be lethal at the right dose.
its nothing to play w/ thats all i urge peeps here.

I don't think Phenibut is a benzodiazapine - there isnt a benzene or diazapene ring anywhere in the 4-amino-3-phenyl-butanoic acid (phenibut) molecule...if anything Phenibut bears a structural similarity to PEA, and from what Ive been reading it is a GABA receptor agonist, as well as causing a rise in dopamine levels. This could possibly be one of the causes of its anxiolytic effect, and why it is somewhat similar to benzos like Valium and Xanax in effect.

Anything can be lethal at the right dose, even water. Phenibut's LD50 in rats is about 900mg/kg - and if that translates to humans you'd have to take 81g of the stuff before you had a 50% chance of killing yourself.

I'll reiterate when I say that I really believe Phenibut is best use in lower doses and only when needed...there are better chemicals out there for recreational use, with less in the way of tolerence and potential negative side effects.

BV