Dr.D's Antibiotic Brief

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by size
    You are right. I thought the majority of this was common knowledge but obviously I was wrong.

    Using an antibiotic when it is not needed is dangerous as your body will not respond as well to future antibiotic needs.
    I added a section to the end of my post to emphasize the good points you and Matt make to try and avoid use in the first place. But at the same time, people should not hesitate to treat possible infection at the first legitimate suspicion. If it's not a real infection you know fast and can stop AB use after a few days which doesn't hurt future use. It's just a smart precaution. So keeping the proper balance is important.


  2. allright, post of the year goes to the good dr.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Endogenous is just as good if you can get it high enough. That's the trick. It is limited to what you can negotiate your body to biosynthesize. What is PSMF?

    Sorry, just caught this.




    PSMF = Protein Sparing Modified Fast

    It's a current craze over at www.bodyrecomposition.com.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Matthew D
    thing is we should be telling everyone to refilter and attempt NOT to over use the antibotics..

    Thing is, I've heard this from day one. Before I knew what was being talked about on the boards, I had read about filtering and heating shocking to make dirty product steril.

    I had never heard of anyone stocking or administering antibiotics, ever.

    The closest advice was, "go to the ER". Still good advice, of course.
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  5. Sounds interesting, thanks from the replay my man. I'm always looking for a better way to eat.

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinochaser48
    Sorry, just caught this.
    PSMF = Protein Sparing Modified Fast
    It's a current craze over at www.bodyrecomposition.com.

  6. is putting an ice pack on a maybe or maybe not abcess a good idea or bad......its been over 48 hours ?and just could be a bad inject..[hit sommething] ...my temp 96.9...i know its weird but can you have a lowgrade fever with a potential abcess..lets see its a front delt i hit all three heads with 1 cc.
    and the only bad one is the front i think it was tensed up,2"x3" bloch, red ,raised up higher than my skin ,posibly a little darker around the edge.

    at this point i dont know,how much could it hurt if i wait another 24-48 hrs ?
    Last edited by WATERLOGGED; 04-21-2005 at 03:20 PM.

  7. well i just waited 24hrs now the redness is gone so i guess no infection so still hurt to move it in most directions and feels a little funny so i'm convinced that i sheared a nerve thats all .but shots still make my muscle sore as ****....oh thanks to all that helped with reasuranse or helpful imfo !...bros...lol

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rhinochaser48
    As nice as it would be, 2 years worth of antibiotics would be a great way to destroy all my hard work in the gym, ("Farewell Protein Synthesis"). I'm not sure I'm ready for that at this point in my life.
    about antibiotics on protein synthesis
    don't antibiotics affect bacterial ribosomes protein synthesis and not the human ribo? or do antibiotics just inhibit protein syn. in your entire body?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by hikneeken
    about antibiotics on protein synthesis
    don't antibiotics affect bacterial ribosomes protein synthesis and not the human ribo? or do antibiotics just inhibit protein syn. in your entire body?
    Doxy is probably the worst, and it ain't that bad. I've used it low dose(100mg/day) for up to 2 months straight without a big problem. Effects bacteria more than you, kind of dose and strength dependent, but very over-estimated. If your laying in a hospital bed taking several g's a day of AB's, after a month you may have a problem.

  10. I thought certain antibiotics can be hard on the liver and also reduce protein synthesis. Are either of these true for dicloxacillin? My pharmacist said "no" to the first question.

    I'm taking 2 weeks of dicloxacillin for a skin infection (250mg x 4ED). I'm not sick or unable to train. Once I'm done, how long should I wait before starting superdrol? Is 1 week OK? I have no idea how long to wait. Also, during that interim I'll start probiotics and probably continue them into the SD cycle.

    Thanks.

    P.S. I read the following in quick search, but don't know much more about this: "Flucloxacillin or amoxicillin with clavulanic acid should be used with caution in those with pre-existing liver disease. Dicloxacillin may be less likely to injure the liver." http://www.dermnetnz.org/treatments/penicillin.html

  11. RRGG,
    You could actually start SD now with the dicloxacillin. Phlebitis can occur with this antibiotic and SD probably reduces clotting, so they may actually cancel out some of each others sides in this case. Your pharmacist is right, this AB is not that tough on the liver (worse on the kidneys actually) so don't worry about jaundice. It's a good little AB actually, about like Augmentin. Also, make sure you leave a few hours between you probiotics and you AB's, don't take them too close together. And about protein synthesis, like I said before, doxy is one of the ones that comes to mind and in my experience it isn't all that bad. Your on a medium-low dose for not very long and your still able to be active and work out, so it's really not a concern.

  12. Thanks doc!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    Thanks doc!
    Anytime my friend!
  14. Superdrol and antibiotics


    Hello Doc,
    I am reaching the end of my second week of a, planned, week Superdrol cylce. I seem to be getting "tonsilitis" sp? or something of the sort. Would I need to stop my cycle if my Doc puts me on AntiBiotics? Or, should I request a certain type to continue my cycle...? Any advice?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Striate
    Hello Doc,
    I am reaching the end of my second week of a, planned, week Superdrol cylce. I seem to be getting "tonsilitis" sp? or something of the sort. Would I need to stop my cycle if my Doc puts me on AntiBiotics? Or, should I request a certain type to continue my cycle...? Any advice?
    3-4 week palnned cycle.....that was a typo

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Striate
    Hello Doc,
    I am reaching the end of my second week of a, planned, week Superdrol cylce. I seem to be getting "tonsilitis" sp? or something of the sort. Would I need to stop my cycle if my Doc puts me on AntiBiotics? Or, should I request a certain type to continue my cycle...? Any advice?
    No, you'll be fine. No need to stop or request a specific AB, it's not a big concern with SD really. Have you tried zinc lozenges or a colloidal silver gargle for your throat? That can really help sometimes.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    No, you'll be fine. No need to stop or request a specific AB, it's not a big concern with SD really. Have you tried zinc lozenges or a colloidal silver gargle for your throat? That can really help sometimes.
    Thanks alot Doc...its seems to be clearing up...no AB yet.

  18. minocycline ( this is an acne medication), would the antibiotic minocycline have any effects on steroids. pro hormones, pcts, etc.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by lilman
    minocycline ( this is an acne medication), would the antibiotic minocycline have any effects on steroids. pro hormones, pcts, etc.
    Not really, it's the same as other tetracyclines. It can depress prothrombin activity, so if you're on certain juice that can thin your blood (like halo, dbol, maybe SD) then just try to avoid other anticoagulants like T3 or aspirin. The most obvious symptom of toxic synergy would be a nose bleed that happens 2 days in a row. In that case, discontinue the antibiotic, or keep treating the infection if it's bad enough and stop the juice. This combo usually isn't a problem though.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by size
    Using an antibiotic when it is not needed is dangerous as your body will not respond as well to future antibiotic needs.
    Is this true? My understanding was that it is a function of bacteria developing a resistance, not the body.

  21. This is why im a fan of DR. D

  22. Quote Originally Posted by jrkarp
    Is this true? My understanding was that it is a function of bacteria developing a resistance, not the body.
    You are both right. It's the tolerance developed by the bacteria that make the body's future responses less effective.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by punta
    This is why im a fan of DR. D

    I guess people have been reading this, stocking up on antibiotics or just taking better care of themselves. I haven't gotten an emergency PM about an infection in a long time!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D

    I guess people have been reading this, stocking up on antibiotics or just taking better care of themselves. I haven't gotten an emergency PM about an infection in a long time!
    Hi Dr

    It's not mutch into the topic but i can't PM you! Can ou take a look at this?


    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabo...lp-levels.html

  25. Thks a lot!

  26. if one was taking cephalexin, should they be worried about kidney/liver health? I'm on it for a skin infection (no, not from pinning) and I was experiencing pain in my kidney area. I'm thinking it was a coincidence but better safe than sorry.

    Edit - The pain seems to be gone today which is relieving

    After doing a lot of research I haven't found anything suggesting renal or hepatoxicity, and the fact Dr.D and others would recommend it to people on cycle is probably a clear indication of its safety, but just double checking

    Some feedback from someone using Keflex - its kind of a pain in the ass to need to take such spread out doses. I wish it had a longer half life
    Last edited by Wedgylx; 01-02-2006 at 12:42 PM.

  27. Wedgylx,

    The half-life issue does suck, but it's just so fast acting! A great choice if you need rapid effects and can remember to take it at least 4x/d (every 4-6hrs). It is clean and renal/hepatoxicity are not a problem, even using 2g's/day or more.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by DR.D
    Wedgylx,

    The half-life issue does suck, but it's just so fast acting! A great choice if you need rapid effects and can remember to take it at least 4x/d (every 4-6hrs). It is clean and renal/hepatoxicity are not a problem, even using 2g's/day or more.
    Thanks a lot Dr.D! I will confess I hadn't been as dedicated as I should have with dosage, but recently I've wisened up.
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