Urgent Help Needed! Can Fenugreek herb cause Penile Reduction?

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I was advised to take fenugreek and an ayurvedic herb called Triphala by my ayurvedic doctor for rapid hair loss as it runs in the family. I was not aware of its highly estrogenic effects. I heard it balanaed out the sex hormones. I took about 70 grams fenugreek a day to combat rapid hairloss for about 4 days before I stopped as I witnessed unusual effects. I am only 19 years old and have lost all my muscle mass, developed gyno, my skull got much bigger like acromegaly and my flaccid penis has shrunk--is this permanent? Is there anything to do to return it to normal. Normaly the flaccid is about 3 inches but now its about 2 inches.

Also, equally as distressing, my erections which used to be about 5.8 inches in length are just about 4 inches now and very weak.

The other thing is reduced libido and alot of fat all over the body. I took the fenugreek in august and it is January now!

Any help would be much appreciated as I am new to to this website and was hoping someone could help as my doctor ignred me and told em to wait
 

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Thanks for your Reply TexasGuy

This is real. I acted a bit impulsively because I got very nervous with the hairloss. IT runs in my family and I am only 20 and lost majority of my childhood hair. But now I am very concerned. Are the effects of high estrogen include penile reduction?
 
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You have to be kidding me with this.
 

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To BigCOuntry. No I am not kidding you, I acted impulsively, im 20 with rapid hairloss It can get stressful. But Iam just worried aout the penile reduction, this wont be permanent reduction will it? Can you please provide me a genuine answer, I have really been stressing over this for a long time
 

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A reduction in testosterone can make it hard to achieve and maintain an erection. You aren't going to lose physical tissue.

If this is real, I doubt your hormonal response to the fenugreek is permanent. Give it some time to reverse and in the mean time read up on phytoestrogens and xenoestrogens and take steps to avoid them.

If you are concerned about balding, consider minoxidil as a topical solution. Or just acknowledge most men thin and many bald and don't worry so much. It's better to have a working penis and shaved head then a limp dick and furry scalp IMO.
 
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Your penis can't shrink no matter what you take. Once a small penis always a small penis. Fenugreek is a natural herb that helps to elevate test, it will not shut down natural test production. Furthermore you only took it for 4 days, takeing an actual steroid for that short of a period wouldn't even have negative effects on the body. If you feel your body is changeing that rapidly for the worse you might want to go see an actual doctor and see whats going on with your body.
 

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To BigCOuntry. No I am not kidding you, I acted impulsively, im 20 with rapid hairloss It can get stressful. But Iam just worried aout the penile reduction, this wont be permanent reduction will it? Can you please provide me a genuine answer, I have really been stressing over this for a long time
How long has this been going on? And after four days?

You may want to visit an endocronologist. Western medicine may not be natural but they can probably fix your penis and possibly help you regrow hair.
 

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Thank you both of you for answers. So I went I went to my Dam* pediatrician and she said just wait. I acted stupidly but I ddint want to have bald spots while going to college--Im only 20 now. I took 70 grams of nasty a** fenugreek powder a day. MY voice got higher and everything, but not too much. But why are my erections so much weaker even 5 months later? MY penis wasnt small--it was average length and compared to all the porn I've watched I had probable above average thickness of girth or whatever you call it. But thank you for your answers I appreciate it.
 

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TexasGuy, I took the fenugreek abotu 4 days at the end of July. I was 19 years old then. It is January Now. And my erection strength ( hardness, length, girth, etc.) has not been back. And neither has my msucle mass
 

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In the past my length was close to 6 inches--Id say 5.7 inches . But now its barely over 4 inches. This is why I am
overly concerned
 
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You should go get a blood test done, and a full physical it really sounds like something way more seriouse then 4 days of fenugreek. Theres really no way it could cause some of the symptoms you are discribing, escpecially your skull getting larger.
 

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Yea I took about 70 grams for 4 days. I wonder if that stimulated my pituitary too much or something and caused it to release alot of Growth hormone. My fae got broader too. I just hope it did not induce acromegaly.
 

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Dude, if you keep talking about your penis it's going to be hard to take you seriously. This whole thread reaks of bs. If it's been five months since the onset of low T side effects following four days of an herbal supplement, get a second opinion. Nobody on this thread can make your boner better.

See a specialist, an endocronologist.
 

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I dont see why this is BS? I am legit concerned. But my pediatrician is taking forever to recommend me to an endocrinologist.
 

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I apologize if I sound a little weird. I a mnewbie to this forum. This is my first post.
 

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But main thing is, are you guys sure the penis can't shrink because of too much estrogen in the system? That information in itself is a relief.
 

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IT is not Low Test because I had my bloodwork done with my doctor and the sex hormones ( esstrogen/test) came out normal I did this about a month after taking the fenugreek but still my general muscle tone has been dimineshed. Although sex drive has not diminished. And that is another reason why im worried because shouldnt erection strength be normal if the testosterone level is normal?
 
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Then find a new doctor, if its been more then a few weeks your health really isnt important to your doctor. Go to someone else and get this taken care of, and stop measureing your penis all the time. girls don't find it attractive when you have charts layin around your room with penis growth from 2010-2011 labeled on them.
 

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I think you're right BigCountry. I stillgo to the family doctor as she has watched me since childhood. But you're saying I shouldn't too concerned about my erections and that there is no permanent reduction in smooth muscle/erectile tissue?
 
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No what im saying is be concerned, and go to another doctor and get some blood work done, and no your penis cant shrink.
 

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TexasGuy, in some websites it says that high estrogen levels can shrink the penis.

One more thing was that I did experience some mild Gyno and sensitive nipples the first 2 weeks after taking fenugreek but that subsided away mostly.
 

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Thank you BigCountry. What should I be concerned about? My main concern was I did not want happen to my willie. Muscle mass and other **** can be gained back, but your willie cant.
 

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Would you guys know if too much stimulation of the pituitary gland can lead to Acromegaly?

Is it true that fenugreek boosts GH production?
 
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1. You did not take 70 GRAMS of Fenugreek per day. That's ridiculous. Milligrams, maybe, but 70mg of Fen ain't gonna do jack.

2. You're 19. Don't self medicate.

3. Go see a different ****ing Doctor.
 
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Those are all scare tactics to keep stupied little kids from useing roids. I mean think about it, that makes no sence if your psnis could shrink then why wouldnt you be able to grow it?

And now im done talking about F'ing penises today !!!
 
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1. You did not take 70 GRAMS of Fenugreek per day. That's ridiculous. Milligrams, maybe, but 70mg of Fen ain't gonna do jack.

2. You're 19. Don't self medicate.

3. Go see a different ****ing Doctor.
This, and now this thread is over with, if anyone posts on this thread again I cures there penis to grow to the length of 3 feet and be given a life time supply of ON whey protien powder !!!

So it is said, so it shall be done !!!
(thunder, lightening, wind,& othere magic crap in the background)
 

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No, resolve I took 70 grams as in 0.07 KG of fenugreek a day. It was powder not capsules. In India they eat alot of fenugreek for diabetes and other stuff. Im not making this up. What benefit would anyone get from making this up? and why would they come up with such a unusual story?

I took about 10 gramd at a time 7 times a day. To control hair loss
 

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I guess some need it spoonfed. Do not eat 70grams or fenurgeek matter of fact just never take fenurgeek again. heed advice from the guy who told u to use rogaine(minoxidil). If u want a test boost take a test booster. Also do not talk about ur 2inch penis . Now go create a new profile
 

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I guess some need it spoonfed. Do not eat 70grams or fenurgeek matter of fact just never take fenurgeek again. heed advice from the guy who told u to use rogaine(minoxidil). If u want a test boost take a test booster. Also do not talk about ur 2inch penis . Now go create a new profile
Its a lil under 2 inches. but thats cause my height is about 4 feet. so thats great that penis cant shrink
 

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Hi all
I think story of Gungadin it true. I am suffering just like him. I have exactly the same symptoms what he described here. While Gungadin is in this condition for seven months or more I am in this condition for five years. I got into this mess after using saw palmetto. SP just destroyed me. I not only lost my penis and balls but also all physical strength. I have got severe fatigue, muscle loss, eyesight problem, brain fog, excessive urination. My condition has become so severe that ultimately I lost my job and my career ruined, all because of saw palmetto.
if somebody knows about Gungadin please let me know how he recovered but honestly I think this condition is very hard to reverse, almost permanent.
 

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ThorBara
you think I am making up stories?
just few minutes google search gave me this
abchomeopathy-com/forum2-php/428419/
I'm 18 years old, and many months ago I started taking saw Palmetto to help some prostatitis issues. After a few weeks I noticed that my libido was decreasing but I didn't attribute it to the SP. I took it for a total of about 5.5 months before I stopped and now my libido is extremely low (morning erections are rare as well).

I was advised to ask for someone named Dr. Mohla. Does he, or anyone else have any insight? Anything would be appreciated. I think I jsut need to get it out of my system somehow and then help my liver/kidneys/adrenals heal.

Thanks!

Matt

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hairlosstalk-com/interact/showthread-php/54907-Saw-Palmetto-sides
I started taking 85-85% standardized extract of Saw Palmetto over a week ago, I'm not getting a boner as easily as i should be. I usually wake up with one but i haven't been and it's even more noticeable by the fact I haven't had a wank in almost 4 weeks!

Anyone had a similar experience off SP? Do you think it is that or am i just overthinking it? If it is, do you think it means it will have an effect on my hair?
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propeciahelp-com/forum/viewtopic-php?f=3&t=1398&p=7000#p7000
after 1.5 years on Saw Palmetto (2 x a day) it is where all the problems emerged one at the time namely:

- Loss of libido (very bad)
- Erectile dysfunction (very bad)
- Sleep problem ( i feel as if i am not sleeping)
- Eye problem ( sensitive to light, difficult in reading)
- Gynecomastia
- Very bad case of stomach ulcer
- lack of concentration (very bad)
- start having episodes of stress
- Dark cirlcle under my eyes (i aged very fast until it shocked my mother)
- mucle twiching (uncontrolable movement in various mucles in the body)
- loss of weight ( in two months i lost 4 kg, very scarry)
- Testis size is reduce (become smaller)

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abchomeopathy-com/forum2-php/428419/
Im in exactly the same boat. I took saw palmetto for 21 days back in march becuase i had suffered abit of alopecia from stress however this has been far more stressful. I stopped taking end of march and its now end of july. I still have a very low libido and erections is difficult! Im 27 and feel like ive wrecked my body up...but only 21 tablets!

James


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I feel the same way but actually when I think about it, there are many times when I've noticed someone's weight loss
 

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I see that you re tweeted my tweet...I accept your invitation for sex.
 

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The best sex I've ever had is with the man with the smallest penis from the others. One example of this: I used to dread having anyone enter me from behind - a 6 in. penis would hurt me so much I'd be wailing and not in a good way
 

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I don't feel much interest in sex. Secondly if I get it lasts for 5 to 10 minutes and also my penis does not rise much.
 

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bump.
It is 2018 and I am still not cured from sides caused by SawPalmetto. If anybody has found cure please share here.
 

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