- 09-17-2005, 01:14 AM
- 09-17-2005, 01:27 AM
Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
09-17-2005, 02:01 AM
09-17-2005, 10:38 AM
09-17-2005, 01:20 PM
Hey doc, would using say 2-3 caps of ATD on cycle be enough to 1.) Prevent gyno to the extent of say using Letro @ .25mg EOD or .1-.2mg ED as a replacement since Letro is harder on the cholesterol profile than ATD (this would be of course with a aromatizing compound like test) and 2.) Work as a OTC HCG of sorts. What are your thoughts good Doc. Hope you are doing well brother.Originally Posted by DR.D
09-17-2005, 01:46 PM
Now you can do a cut & paste of Dr.D to defend my honor without it looking like we are gay like we are in real life.Originally Posted by Pioneer
09-17-2005, 02:19 PM
09-17-2005, 02:24 PM
Likey story. You just dont want anyone to know we are gay. Its cool, I wont let anyone know.Originally Posted by Pioneer
09-17-2005, 06:57 PM
I'm doing fine bro, it's always great to hear for you. I pray you're doing well too. I have not experimented with ATD in this way much, but plan to. 1 or 2 caps should be plenty. It may prove to be a great letro replacement with fewer sides and better anti-gyno effects. 3 caps may be overkill, I'm just now sure at this point.Originally Posted by Grassroots082
09-17-2005, 07:05 PM
09-29-2005, 05:12 PM
Question for Dr. D
Airmidex and Letro work the same way, correct? Would using airmedex at .5-1.0 mgs per day be overkill on a cycle? Should I use it as you recommend letro (lower dose as to not totallly kill estrogen)? If so, what dose do you recommend?
Thanks! Your posts are always very helpful!
09-29-2005, 11:22 PM
Arimidex is not dosed the same as letro for some reason. It takes a full dose of it to cause optimal suppression, so 0.5mg/d if you just want to control estrogen, or 1.0mg to truly inhibit it. That's why I like letro better, they are equally effective, but letro is about 4x stronger.Originally Posted by workin2005
09-30-2005, 01:34 AM
09-30-2005, 01:42 AM
Right. Roughly equal effect. About 60-70% inhibition at that dose if I remember the studies correctly.Originally Posted by workin2005
BTW, lookin' real sliced with that 6pk action in your Av, impressive my man!
09-30-2005, 02:55 AM
10-01-2005, 06:01 PM
The discussion's about SERMs and AIs, and Dr.D's posting. The ideal circumstances for me to post a question
Some people reported getting gyno from Ergomax or SD. I know that normally this isn't very likely to happen, but as we see it can happen, even if the chances are low.
Now, as an estrogen-sensitive person previously operated for pubertal gyno, I'd like to eliminate all risks gyno-wise. What should be my on-cycle drug(s) of choice and dosages in this regard?
P.S. : As I live in Turkey I have easy access to all the drugs cited in this thread - except that arimidex is ridiculously expensive so out of the picture.
10-01-2005, 07:16 PM
You shouldn't have much of a problem with Gyno on cycle w/ Letro bro even a really low dose like .5mg or .25 every other day might even be too much but it does the trick for me. Nolva/Clomid for PCT has always been good to me as well.
10-01-2005, 07:18 PM
Letro 0.1-0.25mg/d, Rebound 25-50mg/d, or Nolva 10-20mg/d in that order of preferenceOriginally Posted by turkish
10-01-2005, 07:33 PM
10-01-2005, 07:52 PM
Checked the prices, letro is also too expensive. Back to ATD.
Wouldn't raloxifene be good in preventing gyno while on cycle, since it seems to be effective for reducing it?
10-02-2005, 11:59 AM
10-02-2005, 12:30 PM
Thanks again doc. This means I'll go with Raloxifene on cycle and save the ATD for PCT alongside Nolva & Fenugreek.Originally Posted by DR.D
04-06-2006, 12:58 AM
04-14-2006, 12:53 AM
Dr.D I have a question and maybe you can help answer it. From what I've read letro takes about 60 days to acheive steady blood plasma levels so what im wondering is it pointless to take letro for short periods of time i.e. 2-3 weeks?
04-16-2006, 12:24 AM
04-16-2006, 12:27 AM
This is true, but short term letro is still OK because steady state levels are not really needed with letro. The optimal dose is 0.25mg/d, so your levels are pretty much high enough right from the start, especially if you pre-load with a full dose (2.5mg/d) for the first week before switching to a low, maintenance dose of 0.1-0.25mg/d.Originally Posted by dadream
04-16-2006, 10:02 PM
is it worth it, rebound is weaker so how its gona be beneficier to letroOriginally Posted by DR.D
add that dose of rebound should i use
i am on my test cycle now and using letro 1.25 md ed trying to reverse small case of gyno
but it is still here should i add other compounds(reboun 3 tabs) or use letro 2.5 mg ed
Last edited by stumbras; 04-18-2006 at 01:09 AM.
04-20-2006, 05:50 AM
That's probably too much letro, unless your doing 2g or more of test per week. If you do high doses of letro, it can rebound and it's really so strong, you don't need that much anyway. You could combine letro and RXT to conserve on the RXT, like 25mg RXT w/ 0.1mg letro instead of 50mg of RXT by itself. I like letro at 0.25mg/d max. EOD at that dose has always been plenty with 600-800g of test e/wk.Originally Posted by stumbras
04-20-2006, 02:21 PM
Hey bro, was watching the Nightly News at work the other night and guess what "new" drug is being marketed for breast cancer?Originally Posted by DR.D
Thought about the good old Doc whenever it came on.
04-20-2006, 03:06 PM
Yep saw that too, it's Evista (brand name for Ralox) I liked it at 80 mg during my last cycle for gyno preventionOriginally Posted by Grassroots082