Help me get rid of my sleeping problems!

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  1. 1 Doxylamine succinate 25mg (generic unisom tabs, not the crappy gells, most powerful sedative sold a without script, and very safe.), 4 400mg valerian root, half 3mg melatonin
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2


  2. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    1 Doxylamine succinate 25mg (generic unisom tabs, not the crappy gells, most powerful sedative sold a without script, and very safe.), 4 400mg valerian root, half 3mg melatonin
    Suggest that for bed? Do you do this? Does it give you that "groggy" feeling?
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  3. Take 4 Excedrin pm's and try to rub one out before you pass out. WIN WIN
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    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

  4. Quote Originally Posted by timmmah View Post
    Take 4 Excedrin pm's and try to rub one out before you pass out. WIN WIN
    Haha, steal that from 40 year old virgin?

  5. Ill help you get rid of that damn sleeping! Do some meth. Youll be up for days.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by RAZORBACK09 View Post
    Suggest that for bed? Do you do this? Does it give you that "groggy" feeling?
    Yea thats my sleep stack. Na I wake fine.
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  7. Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    1 Doxylamine succinate 25mg (generic unisom tabs, not the crappy gells, most powerful sedative sold a without script, and very safe.), 4 400mg valerian root, half 3mg melatonin
    Where do you find the best deal on the 1 doxylamine succinate? (If i'm allowed to ask that in OTC drug section)

  8. Best sleep ive gotten is while i was using HGHpro by AI. Popped 4 caps 30 minutes before bed on an empty stomach and i was out like a light. You may wanna give it a shot.
    DISCLAIMER: Anything that I post on this forum should not be taken as medical advice. Consult your doctor before starting new diets, supplements, training protocols, and/or if you have any concerns about your health.

  9. Razorback, just curious ... when do you workout? When I used to exercise in the evenings after work it was more difficult to sleep at times. Now I get up and do weights and/or cardio first thing in the morning. I can barely keep my eyes open past 10 pm anymore.

    Reading also helps to relax many people.

    And I just scanned this whole thread and don't think I saw mention of trying L-theanine (or have some green tea) an hour before bedtime.

  10. Doxylamine succinate and melatonin have worked great so far. Got to bed an hour or so earlier then normal even waking up on the same cycle. I'am a bit tired but I feel ok once i'm up for a bit. I'm going to add in valerian root tonight.

    I work out usually around 6PM, but it's the only possible time I can.
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  11. Xdream and the sleep stack by PP. The tea and oil
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by purebred View Post
    Come again? LOL
    It is common knowledge that sunlight exposure affects the circadian rhythm.

  13. Things like Tryptophan, Theanine, Hops and Chamomile (tea) are wonderful relaxants and suitable for daily use for those who work out in PM to take the edge off and get you in a relaxed state. They may not help you "fall asleep" but they have potent relaxation attributes and can be used with little worries of tolerance and put your CNS on the path for the ritual of sleep which begins much sooner than when you "go to bed". Higher doses Taurine also assists with "bringing one down" as well.

    Sleep with some "white noise" (light fan/white noise machine/bathgroom fan - keep door slightly ajar) and make sure the room is COOL/COLDER (temperature definitely impacts sleep) and COMPLETELY DARK (any light "may" disrupt sensitive sleepers). This incliudes little items like turning the alarm clock with the LED lights away from you and turning your cell OFF.

    Watch the carbs too close to sleep (I aim for ZERO 2-hours prior) as insulin is antagonistic to GH and therefore CAN adversely affect GH-pulse/release. Conversely, protein rich meals assist in GH-release.

    Go to bed and rise at the SAME TIME DAILY to re-train your brain and establish a pattern.


    Quote Originally Posted by RAZORBACK09 View Post

    I work out usually around 6PM, but it's the only possible time I can.

  14. I tried a sample of ALRI's Comatose the other night and let me tell you....it put me in a COMA!! I usually wake up at least once during the night if not more times. I woke up from this stuff wondering what the hell happened. It was game over once my head hit the pillow. I am going to purchase a bottle a see how it holds up over time. Just thought I would share with you...
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  15. YUP - I tried it too. Know what scares me about that product from ALRI? It works very well for ONE TAB!!

    To be fair and perhaps unfair from a responsible consumer perspective; ALRI got busted spiking their product (original version) VENOM (which was a KILLER product) so who the heck knows what this company threw in there to make it SO potent for ONE darn cap. Great product IF it's SAFE!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    YUP - I tried it too. Know what scares me about that product from ALRI? It works very well for ONE TAB!!

    To be fair and perhaps unfair from a responsible consumer perspective; ALRI got busted spiking their product (original version) VENOM (which was a KILLER product) so who the heck knows what this company threw in there to make it SO potent for ONE darn cap. Great product IF it's SAFE!
    I had these same thoughts running thru my head when I woke up from the 1 cap COMA. I just have a hard time believing they would continue that agenda. Stuff works though!!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  17. Get used it to unscrupulous tactics of everyone bro. Anytime there is money or power or success involved, there is an a**hole trying to decieve you or steal from you. Just the way of the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I just have a hard time believing they would continue that agenda.

  18. Ambien-really the only thing that is guaranteed to work and doesn't have any long term physical side effects i.e. weight gain or diabetes.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by pittguy578 View Post
    Ambien-really the only thing that is guaranteed to work and doesn't have any long term physical side effects i.e. weight gain or diabetes.
    I don't like Ambien...

    I feel better sleeping 5 hours without Ambien than 8 hours with it. And half the time I wake up 3-4 hours after taking it anyway. It absolutely puts me to sleep every time, though.

    Might just be me.

  20. I don't like Ambien...

    I feel better sleeping 5 hours without Ambien than 8 hours with it. And half the time I wake up 3-4 hours after taking it anyway. It absolutely puts me to sleep every time, though.

    Might just be me.
    You could try looking into Rozarem (ramelteon). It skips GABA receptors entirely and binds strictly to melatonin receptors. In study a with cats comparing ramelteon to otc melatonin it had a ~3x longer and more profound effect on the EEG of the sleeping cats. Wikipedia it if you're interested.

  21. Thank you, I will look into that.

  22. If I know I need to sleep within an hour I take one 10mg Flexeril (cyclobenzaprene). I have a very addictive personality and I have never abused this drug nor become dependent on it. I probably take it once a week or less. The potential problems with this though is that it is a prescription muscle relaxer, and I have heard that it really won't affect you if you have any kind of tolerance to a "downer" or benzo of any sort. Also, for the less-law inclined, or for those in legal-medical states, some good old herb will chill you out.
    Or read.

    Best of luck to you, and although mine's not neearrly as severe, I know that trying to sleep can be hell some (most) nights.
  

  
 

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