Another EC question..

[wannabeBIG]

This is my first time trying a ec stack. Im going by the hotnfit .
Bronkaid
Prolab 200mg caff pills
Now ultra omega 3

Dosing is : all with 2-3g of fish oil
Day 1 half a pill of both
2-3 is 3 doses of a halves
4-7 is 3 doses one of a whole bronkaid and caff rest of day half a pill
8-14 is 3 doses one whole twice a day then a half
15 and on is a whole pill 3 times a day..

Now my question is .... I took my first dose today with no thermo effects so I upped and took the other half and still nothing.. I have not had a chance to get to the gym today so will I only feel thermo effects when Im working out?
I took old Hydroxycut way back when and as soon as it kicked in I was sweating my ass off jus sitting.. Are ec stacks the same or not? DO I need to up the dose some?
Thanks for any input.

[Porty]

Thermogenics aren't super high on an EC stack for me, but you should definitely be feeling some energy. I start right off with a full pill of each, twice a day. It always gives me a huge shot of energy that lasts 4+ hours though the whole cycle. Be wary of training hard or cardio after dosing.

[wannabeBIG]

Yes I hit the gym yesterday after my post and sweated my ass off but after I left the gym that was all she wrote for a thermo effect.. Im jus curious if Im expecting to much from a ec stack or if I should up the dose some..

[ripnlean]

I thought E/C was mainly for hunger control?

[ShakesAllDay]

I thought E/C was mainly for hunger control?

I agree. It blunts my appetite something crazy.

[wannabeBIG]

Hmmmm.. I asked on here what was a good thermo and was refered to the eca stack.. Either way I havent noticed to much hunger depreciation.

[Porty]

I thought E/C was mainly for hunger control?

From past experience and from what I've read, hunger control is more a side-effect than the benefit. It will take a more learned person than I to explain it, but something about how the active acts upon beta-receptors keeps your metabolism skyrocketed and burns fat off you.

Of course, you want your diet in check first and foremost, but I say just stick with it and you will see results. Maybe you are less sensitive to caffeine than most, but I wouldn't recommend upping the dose. Especially since you said you go work out after dosing, upping the dose AND doing cardio after taking EC may make you a poster child for why it was banned in the first place, IMO.

[wannabeBIG]

From past experience and from what I've read, hunger control is more a side-effect than the benefit. It will take a more learned person than I to explain it, but something about how the active acts upon beta-receptors keeps your metabolism skyrocketed and burns fat off you.

Of course, you want your diet in check first and foremost, but I say just stick with it and you will see results. Maybe you are less sensitive to caffeine than most, but I wouldn't recommend upping the dose. Especially since you said you go work out after dosing, upping the dose AND doing cardio after taking EC may make you a poster child for why it was banned in the first place, IMO.

Was afraid of that..

[Wilderbeast]

To get any type of stimulating effect, which seems to be what you are looking for, you really need to take 25-50 mg per day. (And increase as time passes) You aren't gonna feel anything from 12.5 mg of ephedrine hcl in bronkaid, more than likely. You need a full dosage all at once (25 mg) to feel much of anything probably.

BEAST

[Wilderbeast]

Ephedrine HCL is not used primarily for appetite suppression. It is the world's strongest mg for mg FAT burning substance out there. It is ideal for athletes and bodybuilders because it will burn bodyfat exclusively, and preserve LBM. If you plan and utilize an ECA / ECY stack correctly, there is NOTHING out there any better for fatloss (and yes that includes Clen/T3).

BEAST

[DAdams91982]

Ephedrine HCL is not used primarily for appetite suppression. It is the world's strongest mg for mg FAT burning substance out there. It is ideal for athletes and bodybuilders because it will burn bodyfat exclusively, and preserve LBM. If you plan and utilize an ECA / ECY stack correctly, there is NOTHING out there any better for fatloss (and yes that includes Clen/T3).

BEAST

You are pretty much wrong on every account. Especially your last statement.

[DAdams91982]

To get any type of stimulating effect, which seems to be what you are looking for, you really need to take 25-50 mg per day. (And increase as time passes) You aren't gonna feel anything from 12.5 mg of ephedrine hcl in bronkaid, more than likely. You need a full dosage all at once (25 mg) to feel much of anything probably.

BEAST

Again... wrong... 12.5 is the perfect dose for myself, 2-3 times per day. I understand, you are hardcore... more power to you, but telling people they require more of a powerful product is pretty insidious.

[Wilderbeast]

Wrong sir. Not at all. Clen/T3 is not better for pure fatloss than Ephedrine. With T3 you will not lose pure fat, LBM is not necesarily preserved. By the way I think I'll take my information from the informed PHD scientists out there who are trained in metabolism, insulin resistance, dietary protein requirements, etc. etc. I.E. Dr. Scott Connelly. (no offense meant)

BEAST

[Wilderbeast]

I was not saying do not use 12.5 mg at a time, I meant rather do not use solely 12.5 mg once per day. Sorry for mix-up.

12.5 mg 3X /day = 37.5 mg (nothing wrong with that dosage, I simply meant do not take 12.5 mg once a day and expect to see the full results)

BEAST

[DAdams91982]

Wrong sir. Not at all. Clen/T3 is not better for pure fatloss than Ephedrine. With T3 you will not lose pure fat, LBM is not necesarily preserved. By the way I think I'll take my information from the informed PHD scientists out there who are trained in metabolism, insulin resistance, dietary protein requirements, etc. etc. I.E. Dr. Scott Connelly. (no offense meant)

BEAST

Sounds good.. but understand you are wrong. Your mg for mg is completely wrong. Considering clen is muscle sparing and you utilize mcg's instead of mgs, it is 10x the heavier hitter than ephedrine.

[Wilderbeast]

No, no, you are right the mg per mg is not correct, as clen is "mcg" if you took 25 mg of clen at one time you'd probably die of a heart attack.

BEAST

[DAdams91982]

No, no, you are right the mg per mg is not correct, as clen is "mcg" if you took 25 mg of clen at one time you'd probably die of a heart attack.

BEAST

No to mention severe heart necrosis! ... I love me some EC, but low dose DNP is my heaviest hitter! I get great results with low dose DNP in 30 days.

[Wilderbeast]

I've heard great things about DNP also. I may run it when i get ready for my next contest. It's so toxic though you really have to be careful. So many people take a dose and then they're like "I dont feel anything"... so they take another dose... You can see why there have been so many problems with dnp usage... DNP might actually be better then clen,T3,T2,or ECA actually but it is almost completely impractical for the average user. If I ran it, I would do a very low dose for a longer period of time as well.

BEAST

[DAdams91982]

I've heard great things about DNP also. I may run it when i get ready for my next contest. It's so toxic though you really have to be careful. So many people take a dose and then they're like "I dont feel anything"... so they take another dose... You can see why there have been so many problems with dnp usage... DNP might actually be better then clen,T3,T2,or ECA actually but it is almost completely impractical for the average user. If I ran it, I would do a very low dose for a longer period of time as well.

BEAST

That is the only way to do it... it takes 3 days to build up in the system, and doesnt hit you right away. Taking a low dose for longer time is the way to go... dont get so uncomfortable that you cannot sleep, and still see the fat sliding off... taking T4 with it really boosted my results. I think heretic posted up a guide years ago on how not to **** up on DNP. that was a great read.