What if I dont PCT..?

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  1. What if I dont PCT..?


    I have been completely off stack for about 2 weeks (i kept taking the s roid alone) and off the rest of the stuff for about 4-6 weeks. However, for about three months I stacked
    Hardcore Formulations:
    Epidrol 30 mg per day
    S Roid 20 mg per day
    Competitive Edge:
    H Drol 20 mg per day
    Elipse:
    HMB

    I gained alot in terms of strength and real muscle. I started to use black china labs superdex xtreme pct but never completely finished it, I have like 10pills left.

    I know that one should pct when doing using artificial hormone related supps, but if I dont because the stuff is "natural" or at least thats how it was explained to me and not real injectable gear, will I be ok just being off it for a while and letting it filter out my system naturally?

    Im not new to training but I am new to prohormones. How long would you guys recommend before I start to use another stack and any suggestions on a new stack to try?

    in terms of side effects they have not really been any, Ive always had acne on my shoulders, no real aggression besides in the gym, but my nipples are puffier than normal but they dont have tenderness in them...

    i need help thanks


  2. Problem is- after 4-6 weeks of using these compounds (which are, by the way anabolic,androgenic, steroids) your natty testosterone production is at a halt. Without proper PCT, you will lose all that muscle you gained, risk developing gynecomastia from the estrogen build up in your body, and possibly destroy your endocrine system and never produce testosterone again.

    You really need a SERM:Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator... and really needed one before you started the cycle
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.
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  3. wow.... you were on a lot of **** for a long time... not so good for the body, you'll def want some form of hardcore pct and maybe a trip to the doctor to get yourself checked out

  4. And this may be the wrong section/subforum for your question, but don't bother moving it (not sure if that's possible), as you will most likely be flamed for not cycling properly, but yea those are definetely potent products and deserve proper PCT so I'd get a serm, quick
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  5. i would say you need clomid and nolva cuz your **** is gonna be SHUT DOWN, and dependin on whether or not you use support supps your liver profiles and blood pressure will be f'd
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bezoe View Post
    And this may be the wrong section/subforum for your question, but don't bother moving it (not sure if that's possible), as you will most likely be flamed for not cycling properly,
    Yeah people that would of did the same thing you did if they didn't find these forums will call you names to feel intelligent or big about themselves.

    I did a cycle of Dbol in 97 with no PCT and lost gains but kept some and had no regrets. Then a few years later did a Sustanon cycle with no PCT and when I went off cycle I had horrible panic attacks and unbearable anxiety. I am sure it is to my hormones being out of wack. It was so bad I was put on medication and it lasted for about 5 months. Definitely was not fun.

    YOU ARE NOT TAKING "NATURAL SUBSTANCES". That is why people get in to these situations. They assume because it is legal it is safe. Most supplement companies don't put real warnings on their products probably due to fear of loss sales or fear of the FDA at the risk of the consumer for the sake of their profits. These are real steroids.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by nbtweenstage View Post
    I have been completely off stack for about 2 weeks (i kept taking the s roid alone) and off the rest of the stuff for about 4-6 weeks. However, for about three months I stacked
    Hardcore Formulations:
    Epidrol 30 mg per day
    S Roid 20 mg per day
    Competitive Edge:
    H Drol 20 mg per day
    Elipse:
    HMB

    I gained alot in terms of strength and real muscle. I started to use black china labs superdex xtreme pct but never completely finished it, I have like 10pills left.

    I know that one should pct when doing using artificial hormone related supps, but if I dont because the stuff is "natural" or at least thats how it was explained to me and not real injectable gear, will I be ok just being off it for a while and letting it filter out my system naturally?

    Im not new to training but I am new to prohormones. How long would you guys recommend before I start to use another stack and any suggestions on a new stack to try?

    in terms of side effects they have not really been any, Ive always had acne on my shoulders, no real aggression besides in the gym, but my nipples are puffier than normal but they dont have tenderness in them...

    i need help thanks
    Holy crap dude, do you poop white? that is a ton of stress on the liver, too many orals at once bro. Did you really stack all that stuff for 12 weeks? I couldn't imagine the lethargy you must feel, it would have started around week 7 or 8, and now you would need to sleep probably 16 hours a day.
    Quote Originally Posted by madds87 View Post
    Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....

  8. I speed read it the first time and just reread it. Damn dude. You got gyno, you're shut down, after 12 weeks your lipids are probably that of someone about to have a stroke or heart attack. I would beat the living **** out of whoever guided you through this "cycle". He pretty much ****ed you up for the time being and gave you advice that could potentially **** you up for life.

  9. you really need to go to a doctor man... you did some serious stuff for a long time...

  10. OH S***! He did say three months! I missed that ... hey man are you still alive?
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  11. lol I was really hoping that this was a joke..... :/ you should go to the doc and get some tests ran.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by nbtweenstage View Post
    I have been completely off stack for about 2 weeks (i kept taking the s roid alone) and off the rest of the stuff for about 4-6 weeks. However, for about three months I stacked
    Hardcore Formulations:
    Epidrol 30 mg per day
    S Roid 20 mg per day
    Competitive Edge:
    H Drol 20 mg per day
    Elipse:
    HMB

    I gained alot in terms of strength and real muscle. I started to use black china labs superdex xtreme pct but never completely finished it, I have like 10pills left.

    I know that one should pct when doing using artificial hormone related supps, but if I dont because the stuff is "natural" or at least thats how it was explained to me and not real injectable gear, will I be ok just being off it for a while and letting it filter out my system naturally?

    Im not new to training but I am new to prohormones. How long would you guys recommend before I start to use another stack and any suggestions on a new stack to try?

    in terms of side effects they have not really been any, Ive always had acne on my shoulders, no real aggression besides in the gym, but my nipples are puffier than normal but they dont have tenderness in them...

    i need help thanks
    Why the hell would you stack 5-6 steroids when you are new to the game?
    You need to see a doctor FAST and tell them the truth on what you took.

    You are the reason stuff gets banned!

  13. I bet his gains were nice. lol

  14. key word....WERE lol
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by lozgod View Post
    I bet his gains were nice. lol
    yeah bro - he'll look huge in the coffin.

    OP - you need to be asking PCT questions before starting.

  16. These threads pop up a lot I noticed and the original poster never posts again. Think they are BS? I am going to start ignoring them.

  17. It's a sad fact that they are most likely true. Guy realizes he messed up and is probably too ashamed to post again once he learns the truth. Also sad is the fact that guys nowadays don't feel like real men unless they can get pumped up and swole up like Arnold. Sadder even than that is the supplement companies that take advantage of this mentality and allow us to ingest sh!t that ain't fit for a horse. Good lordy, what are we coming to?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by lozgod View Post
    These threads pop up a lot I noticed and the original poster never posts again. Think they are BS? I am going to start ignoring them.
    on the one hand i can see the OP being too embarrassed to ever log back into AM but on the other hand maybe it is someone testing the forum out - seeing the the advice being given is legit? Here's hoping.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    on the one hand i can see the OP being too embarrassed to ever log back into AM but on the other hand maybe it is someone testing the forum out - seeing the the advice being given is legit? Here's hoping.
    Yea there was one not long ago where the guy was asking what pct was and had finished his cycle. He said he was taking some "milk thistler" though. lol
    Suffer now.. and live like a champion later.

  20. I researched probably a full 2 or 3 months before embarking in to steroids (the second time). The first time I took "my guys" advice and took Dbol and blew up and shrunk right back up. I hate when people take a holier than thou attitude when replying to posts.

    "You sir are an idiot for doing that", etc. I try to be helpful to even the biggest of idiots. I also hate when everyones answer is "use the search button". We were all newbies at once. I try to be patient as possible. I blame the ease of obtaining these hormones OTC and the supplement companies and stores for not having real warnings. They do to a point. Even Tylenol now warns their product if misused can result in serious injury or death.

  21. you when right after you are like S$$T i should have rubbered up sometimes?? haha well you just did that in a big way.

    man you need to NEED TO go see a doc, get blood tests, get nolva, get clomid and do PCT even if it is late. research chems are easy to get.

    1) get some Cycle support from nutra planet and dose that twice a day to help your liver
    2) DO A PCT even if late
    3) get a doctor if you can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. It's important that we be tough on noobs that do stupid things that will adversely affect their health, this way when other noobs use the search button doing their research, they'll know the difference between right, wrong and stupid. I know this worked for me when I was researching!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by luclyluciano View Post
    It's important that we be tough on noobs that do stupid things that will adversely affect their health, this way when other noobs use the search button doing their research, they'll know the difference between right, wrong and stupid. I know this worked for me when I was researching!
    Well guys like us use our brains. 90% of newbs are idiots. lol. Totally contradicted myself there.

  24. You guys got this guy laying curled up crying in his bathtub with the shower running thinking his nuts are gonna fall off and hes gonna grow boobs, or maybe hes just gonna die.



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    Its not like hes the first and certainly isnt going to be the last to do something stupid.

    Anybody think of maybe just pointing him right over to this thread:

    No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT

    No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT

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  25. Quote Originally Posted by nbtweenstage View Post
    I have been completely off stack for about 2 weeks (i kept taking the s roid alone) and off the rest of the stuff for about 4-6 weeks. However, for about three months I stacked
    Hardcore Formulations:
    Epidrol 30 mg per day
    S Roid 20 mg per day
    Competitive Edge:
    H Drol 20 mg per day
    Elipse:
    HMB

    I gained alot in terms of strength and real muscle. I started to use black china labs superdex xtreme pct but never completely finished it, I have like 10pills left.

    I know that one should pct when doing using artificial hormone related supps, but if I dont because the stuff is "natural" or at least thats how it was explained to me and not real injectable gear, will I be ok just being off it for a while and letting it filter out my system naturally?

    Im not new to training but I am new to prohormones. How long would you guys recommend before I start to use another stack and any suggestions on a new stack to try?

    in terms of side effects they have not really been any, Ive always had acne on my shoulders, no real aggression besides in the gym, but my nipples are puffier than normal but they dont have tenderness in them...

    i need help thanks
    dude, are you serious? if so, come to us before you run anything else in the future. asking after the fact leads me to believe you might be full of it, but maybe not. either way, i would suggest going to the doc, but you probably won't. again come to us before you run anything again.
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